
Animal Spirits Podcast
Animal Spirits is a show about markets, life, and investing. Join Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson as they talk about what they're reading, writing, listening to and watching. Look for new episodes every Wednesday morning. See our disclosures here - https://ritholtzwealth.com/podcast-youtube-disclosures/
Latest episodes

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Jun 25, 2025 • 1h 1min
The Nothing Ever Happens Market (EP. 418)
Investors seem unfazed by scary headlines, showing what some call 'market amnesia.' The hosts discuss the war's impact on stock performance and the surprising resilience of the job market. They also explore the rising cost of car ownership as younger buyers shift away from vehicles. Mark Zuckerberg's struggle with AI investments becomes a focal point, while baby boomers are reluctant to sell their homes. The conversation spills over into alternative investments, credit card perks, and even nostalgic movie memories.

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Jun 23, 2025 • 30min
Talk Your Book: Turning Capex Into Cashflow
Sean O'Hara, Director at Pacer Financial and President at Pacer ETFs, dives into the importance of free cash flow for smart investing. He explains how the Pacer NASDAQ 100 Top 50 Cash Cows Growth Leaders ETF is structured around companies with strong cash flow metrics. The chat covers investment strategies, contrasting traditional cap-weighting with a momentum-driven approach. O'Hara also tackles tech stock valuations, stressing the significance of fundamentals and rebalancing for successful portfolio management.

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Jun 18, 2025 • 1h 20min
We Have to Talk About Sports Betting (EP. 417)
This discussion tackles the booming sports betting industry, highlighting the thrilling yet risky nature of gambling. The hosts explore changing market dynamics influenced by AI, noting the rising trend in unconventional valuations. They shed light on the implications of volatility for investors while also analyzing the liquidity challenges in Bitcoin trading. With a dose of humor, they delve into personal anecdotes on communication quirks and the art of maximizing credit card rewards, reflecting a blend of financial insights and lighthearted banter.

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Jun 16, 2025 • 35min
Talk Your Book: Investing in High Yield Munis
In this discussion, guest Steve Hlavin, a Portfolio Manager at Nuveen, dives deep into high-yield municipal bonds. He highlights unexpected improvements in municipalities' financial health and the complexities of investing in non-rated bonds. The conversation also covers liquidity challenges, innovative solutions like Interval Funds, and the importance of understanding tax implications. Steve urges investors to prioritize independent research and long-term strategies for navigating this intricate market.

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Jun 11, 2025 • 1h 12min
A Bubble is Coming (EP. 416)
The hosts dive into the intriguing concept of the 'reverse flex,' where the wealthy choose subtle displays of affluence. They also explore the potential for a new market bubble fueled by AI advancements and discuss the transformative impact of retail investors on market dynamics. The conversation touches on the Federal Reserve's interest rate strategies and examines the nuances of private markets alongside personal anecdotes about hidden travel costs. Finally, they reflect on nostalgic '90s cinema, blending humor with serious financial discussions.

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Jun 9, 2025 • 31min
Talk Your Book: Where to Find Higher Dividend Yields
Join Todd Mathias, Head of U.S. Product Strategy & Development at Franklin Templeton, as he dives into the world of investments. He discusses the shifting perceptions of emerging markets and the skepticism surrounding the sustainability of international stock growth. The conversation highlights the importance of global diversification and the impact of currency fluctuations. Todd sheds light on US economic resilience, mega-cap tech stocks, and attractive high-yield dividend opportunities abroad, especially in markets like India and China.

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Jun 7, 2025 • 34min
Talk Your Book: The Joneses Aren't That Happy
In this engaging discussion, Daniel Crosby, Chief Behavioral Officer at Orion and a renowned expert in behavioral finance, dives into the paradox of wealth and happiness. He shares insights on how material abundance often leads to dissatisfaction due to social comparison, urging listeners to shift focus towards personal growth and genuine connections. Crosby also highlights the mental benefits of giving, exploring how generosity enhances happiness while weaving in parallels between health and financial well-being from his personal experiences.

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Jun 4, 2025 • 1h 5min
Will AI Take All Our Jobs? (EP.415)
The hosts dive into the complexities of technical analysis during market downturns. They debate if a recession is necessary and discuss Jamie Dimon's concerns over government bonds. The influence of AI on job displacement versus inflation fears creates an interesting contrast. They also explore the current buyer's market in housing and how stockpicking has become increasingly challenging. Amid humorous anecdotes about travel and media, there's a thoughtful reflection on the evolution of consumer behavior and the broader economic landscape.

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Jun 2, 2025 • 31min
Talk Your Book: Valuation Still Matters
Join Don San Jose, Chief Investment Officer at J.P. Morgan’s U.S. Value Team, and Scott Blasdell, a Portfolio Manager, as they dive into the significance of value investing today. They discuss the necessity of assessing quality within value stocks and why proper valuation remains crucial. The duo also shares insights on the struggles of the wine industry and highlights investment opportunities in the healthcare sector, particularly mentioning Cigna. Get ready for a thoughtful exploration of strategies in today's evolving market!

51 snips
May 28, 2025 • 1h 6min
Most Stocks Suck (EP.414)
The discussion kicks off with rising bond yields and the implications of government debt. The hosts delve into the strange dynamics of wealth in today's economy, contemplating why starter homes have disappeared. A humorous take on $97 salads leads to reflections on bear markets and the emotional toll on investors. The conversation also touches on retirement strategies and the allure of AI in modern investing, all wrapped in entertaining anecdotes about personal experiences and societal trends.