

Animal Spirits Podcast
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Animal Spirits is a show about markets, life, and investing. Join Michael Batnick and Ben Carlson as they talk about what they're reading, writing, listening to and watching. Look for new episodes every Wednesday morning. See our disclosures here - https://ritholtzwealth.com/podcast-youtube-disclosures/
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Dec 3, 2025 • 1h 12min
The Age of Discontentment (EP. 441)
Boring portfolios are surprisingly hard to beat, with a discussion revealing the benefits of simple three-fund strategies. The duo debates rising social expectations and how they contribute to discontentment amid income growth. They dive into the influence of Robinhood on teen investing and assess the current state of the cryptocurrency market. Michael shares insights on affordable housing's impact on financial behaviors, while Disney ride highlights add a fun twist to their financial discussions.

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Dec 1, 2025 • 25min
Talk Your Book: The Psychology of Income
Troy Cates, Co-founder and Managing Partner at NEOS Investments, delves into the world of options-based income ETFs and hedged equity strategies. He highlights the growing demand for yield among investors and explains how selling options can transform returns while managing risks. Troy also discusses the benefits of QQQH's hedged strategy, the advantages of index options, and the importance of tax efficiency. He even touches on innovative products like the Bitcoin income fund, showcasing the evolving landscape of investment strategies.

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Nov 29, 2025 • 30min
Talk Your Book: The State of the Housing Market
The conversation dives into the real statistics of first-time homebuyers, challenging misleading data from the NAR survey. Logan Mohtashami highlights the impact of higher mortgage rates on inventory and price growth, likening it to past trends. He advocates for patience in restoring housing affordability through wage growth rather than subsidies. Regional variations in housing markets are unpacked, as Logan warns against the dangers of 50-year mortgages. Lastly, he debunks sensationalized headlines, urging listeners to focus on real-time data and median prices.

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Nov 26, 2025 • 1h 5min
Wait, Are We in a Recession??? (EP. 440)
In a lively discussion, hosts dive into the unusual stock market movements and the impact of algorithm-driven trading. They ponder whether we’re facing a recession as labor trends weaken and debate the necessity of timely Fed cuts. The excitement around Google's AI advancements sparks a conversation about investment strategies in tech. Meanwhile, they explore the emotional volatility of crypto and share personal anecdotes about Disney experiences. The conversation wraps up with movie recommendations and reflections on the market's current state.

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Nov 24, 2025 • 29min
Talk Your Book: Staking Your Crypto For Yield
Krista Lynch, Senior Vice President at Grayscale, dives into the intriguing world of crypto staking and ETFs. She clarifies how staking works and explains recent IRS guidance permitting ETF investors to earn rewards. Krista also discusses the implications for liquidity and potential risks involved in staking. With insights into Grayscale’s innovative multi-asset fund and the evolving ETF market, she highlights the growing interest from both retail and institutional investors. A fascinating look at the intersection of traditional finance and crypto!

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Nov 19, 2025 • 1h 14min
Is the AI Trade Over? (EP. 439)
The hosts dive into whether there's genuine euphoria in the AI market, contrasting it with a healthy skepticism. They explore the struggles in speculative trading, including Bitcoin's recent crash, and question narratives about young first-time homebuyers. A discussion on the 'Great Stuff Transfer' highlights the challenges of estate cleaning. They also analyze tech bond risks following AI hype and raise intriguing questions about the role of private credit in the investment landscape. Finally, personal anecdotes add a relatable touch amidst the financial analysis.

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Nov 17, 2025 • 39min
Talk Your Book: Will the Bubble Get Bigger?
Michael Arone, Chief Investment Strategist at State Street Investment Management, shares his insights on macroeconomic trends. He discusses how persistent government deficits and monetary policy have become tailwinds for risk assets. Arone delves into the implications of rising government debt on long-term rates and the reasons behind the recent drop in yields. The conversation covers the potential risks and rewards of the AI boom, market concentration, and the historic cycles of bubbles, leaving listeners with a cautiously optimistic outlook on investing.

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Nov 15, 2025 • 47min
Animal Spirits Take Las Vegas
Michael and Ben dive into the role of AI in finance, debating if it’s a bubble or a genuine opportunity for investments. They analyze the S&P's recent performance and compare it to historical trends, while discussing the substantial capital spending driving AI infrastructure. The duo also examines the implications of market concentration in tech, particularly for retirees. Additionally, they explore the rising prominence of private credit, its appeal post-2022, and the necessity for advisors to communicate risks effectively to their clients.

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Nov 12, 2025 • 1h 11min
Is a 50 Year Mortgage a Good Idea? (EP. 438)
The hosts tackle the intriguing concept of a K-shaped economy, suggesting that many indicators reflect strength beyond the wealthy. They debate the implications of AI-driven market moves, pondering if it's a bubble or a fundamental shift. Discussion around 50-year mortgages raises questions about long-term equity buildup versus immediate payment relief. They also explore the struggles of restaurant stocks amidst changing consumer habits, and reflect on gambling culture in Vegas, drawing parallels to retail trading behaviors.

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Nov 10, 2025 • 35min
Talk Your Book: Public & Private Opportunities in AI
Jonathan Shelon, COO at KraneShares and leader behind AJAX ETFs, dives into the burgeoning AI investment landscape. He discusses the innovative inclusion of private companies in ETFs to capture foundational AI models. Shelon also compares today’s AI trends to the dot-com era, emphasizing sustainable revenue growth in the sector. The conversation covers the fund's diverse portfolio strategies and highlights key players like NVIDIA and ASML, while exploring the future of AI, from hardware to humanoid robotics.


