

Agency Blueprint
Robert Patin
The Agency Blueprint Podcast is for Agency Owners looking to explore strategies for scaling a truly profitably agency, reducing stress and getting your personal life back. Hosted by Robert Patin International Best Selling Author, Business Coach and Contract CFO for Creative Agencies.
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Oct 3, 2025 • 20min
Season 18 | Ep 203 | Building a Simple but Effective Sales Playbook
How do you transform sales conversations into a client’s self-discovery journey? Selling agency services doesn’t have to be pushy, complicated, or overwhelming; it simply needs to be intentional. In this episode of The Agency Blueprint podcast, we share a repeatable four-step sales playbook that any agency owner can use to win more clients without relying on high-pressure tactics. We show you how to create excitement during the qualification call, build deep trust during the discovery call, rationalize the emotional decision during the proposal stage, and confidently manage objections in the follow-up.Don't miss this episode to equip yourself with actionable strategies to simplify sales, close higher-value deals, and stop competing solely on price.Key Questions:[01:35] What’s the real purpose of your first sales conversation: selling or qualifying?[04:05] How do you avoid letting prospects take control of the call and turn it into an interview?[12:28] Are you sending proposals by email instead of presenting them live (and losing deals because of it)?[18:11] Is every step of your sales process intentional, with a clear purpose, or are you treating all calls the same?What You’ll Discover: [01:35] Why the purpose of the qualification call is not to sell but to create excitement, gauge fit, and leave prospects wanting more.[02:17] The importance of asking smart questions to show authority without overwhelming or overexplaining too early.[04:05] Why agency owners must stay in charge to avoid turning a sales conversation into an interview.[06:03] Understanding sales as a trust-building process where each step deepens the relationship with the prospect.[07:42] How to allow prospects to articulate their failed past attempts so you can validate their struggles and position your agency as the solution.[10:34] Why the proposal call is a chance to rationalize an emotional decision, not start selling from scratch.[12:28] Why live presentations are crucial for maintaining context and momentum as opposed to emailing proposals. [16:09] How to ask prospects directly if they feel comfortable giving a yes or no during the call, plus the importance of doing follow-ups.

Sep 26, 2025 • 16min
Season 18 | Ep 202 | Decision Fatigue – How to Make Better Choices Faster
Does running your agency feel like an endless cycle of choices? The constant weight of decision-making can drain your energy, slow down your team, and ultimately put a ceiling on your agency’s growth. In this episode of The Agency Blueprint, I discuss the real cost of decision fatigue and the dangerous habit of training your team to rely on you for every answer. I also explain how to categorize risk into low, medium, and high levels, allowing you to determine which decisions to delegate, collaborate on, or retain personally. Don’t miss this episode to learn why, when you stop holding onto every decision and start trusting your team, your agency becomes more agile, scalable, and resilient.Key Questions:[00:31] How often do you feel overwhelmed by the sheer number of choices you need to make each week as an agency owner?[04:18] Are you unintentionally training your team to depend on you for every answer instead of empowering them to think for themselves?[09:53] What areas of your business could you vacate (not abdicate) to allow your team to step up and grow into ownership?[12:25] When delegating, are you clear about whether you want research, recommendations, or full implementation?What You’ll Discover: [01:21] How decision fatigue creates bottlenecks that slow your team down and drain your energy as a leader.[04:18] How agency owners unintentionally train their teams to rely on them for every decision, and how to break the cycle.[05:05] The 1-3-1 framework – a simple but powerful method to retrain your team to bring solutions instead of problems.[06:40] How to categorize decisions into low, medium, and high risk to guide your delegation process.[08:49] How fostering a solution-oriented culture encourages your team to explore ideas, test solutions, and bring ownership to the table.[11:06] How to delegate outcomes rather than just tasks, giving your leadership team the autonomy to think and act strategically.[12:25] The different levels of delegation and how to decide which approach is right in each scenario.[13:17] The importance of creating a safe space for your team to try, fail, and learn without fear of harsh reactions.

Sep 19, 2025 • 15min
Season 17 | Ep 201 | Hiring Before You’re Ready: When It’s the Right Risk
How do you approach hiring even when you’re not ready and it feels financially uncomfortable? How do you know you’re making a calculated investment in your agency’s future versus just taking a reckless risk? In this episode of The Agency Blueprint, I discuss how hiring before you're ready can actually be a strategic growth move, not a reckless one. I explain whether your hiring decision is solving yesterday’s backlog, today’s bottlenecks, or tomorrow’s strategic gaps. Don’t miss this episode to learn how to determine whether your hiring need is temporary or ongoing, and how to quantify the associated risk. Key Questions: [00:52] Is your hire solving for a real bottleneck that’s holding back future growth? [04:05] Are you hiring to fix yesterday’s overload, today’s bandwidth, or tomorrow’s opportunity? [07:32] Is the risk you're considering actually a smart one that leads to measurable ROI? What You’ll Discover: [01:50] The importance of building a fiscal framework to remove any hiring fear and uncertainty. [03:11] Practical tools for calculating the worst-case scenario of a hire and how to frame the financial loss vs. opportunity cost. [04:05] Three hiring motivations buckets—yesterday’s problem, today’s need, and tomorrow’s growth. [05:43] How strategic hires can directly impact long-term growth by solving deeper client retention or upsell issues. [07:32] How to evaluate whether your hiring decision solves a meaningful strategic need and has direct revenue potential. [10:41] Why you should have at least two months of operational expenses in reserve, beyond the cost of the new hire. [11:25] The importance of defining what success looks like and deciding now how you’ll evaluate ROI. [12:29] Why the hire should know exactly what they're walking into and what success means from day one. [14:04] Why hiring with a clear plan and intention can be exactly what your agency needs even before you’re fully ready.

Sep 12, 2025 • 23min
Season 17 | Ep 200 | From Chasing to Choosing: Building a Pipeline of Right-Fit Clients
How do you move from taking whatever business you can get to building a purpose-driven, aligned client base? The right-fit client base fuels not only revenue but also passion and long-term fulfilment. In this episode of The Agency Blueprint, we discuss how agency owners can stop chasing clients and start choosing them. We also explain why it’s time to stop being a generalist trying to appeal to everyone and take a bold positioning, even if it means turning some people away. Don’t miss this episode to learn about the power of authentic storytelling to your audience, which builds connection and trust! Key Questions: [02:14] Who is your true Ideal Client Profile, and what do they really care about? [04:20] Can you name a client you didn’t enjoy working with? Why? [05:36] Are you afraid of repelling potential clients by taking a clear stand in your messaging? [11:44] Where does your ideal client actually spend their time, and are you showing up there? [17:40] Can your story of failure help someone avoid the same mistake? What You’ll Discover: [02:14] Defining your Ideal Client Profile (ICP): demographics, psychographics, buying triggers, and decision-making structures. [04:20] Why defining who you don’t like working with can often be more revealing than listing who you do. [05:36] Why taking a strong position in your messaging, even at a cost, makes you magnetic to the right clients. [06:55] Understanding how your ideal client makes buying decisions helps you mirror their process and build trust faster. [08:24] Why tailored positioning isn’t a marketing tactic but how you build seamless, mutual trust and fit. [09:44] How choosing the right clients allows you to enjoy your work without the dread of toxic interactions. [11:47] How to map your client's professional environment so you can market more strategically. [13:00] How a small niche craft business scaled massively by starting in one Facebook group and expanding consistently. [15:04] How being more human and vulnerable in your content helps build authentic connections and trust. [17:40] The power of authentic storytelling in increasing audience trust and helping potential clients feel more connected. [19:44] When you stop chasing and start choosing your clients, your business becomes more impactful and joyful.

Sep 5, 2025 • 18min
Season 17 | Ep 199 | How to Keep Your Team Bought In Without Burning Them Out
Explore the art of keeping teams motivated without the risk of burnout. Discover how innovative management practices like a four-day workweek can enhance engagement. Learn the importance of transparent communication in building trust and alignment. Understand the power of creating a supportive work environment that encourages autonomy and feedback. Hear about the significance of normalizing failure and embracing a culture of experimentation to drive innovation and growth. Engage your team effectively by fostering clarity and connection.

Aug 29, 2025 • 22min
Season 17 | Ep 198 | Train Once, Never Again: Building a Self-Sustaining Onboarding Process
Do you still treat onboarding as an afterthought, even though it sets the tone for long-term success in your agency? It’s time to rethink your onboarding. In this episode of The Agency Blueprint, we discuss why rushed and inconsistent onboarding not only undermines team confidence but also becomes a bottleneck to scale. We also discuss the five non-negotiables framework, a repeatable, role-based onboarding strategy that ensures transparency, accountability, and competence. Don’t miss this episode to learn how intentional onboarding builds confidence, speeds ramp-up time, and creates a resilient team foundation! Key Questions: [01:26] Have you observed new hires forgetting critical information or making repetitive mistakes? [03:55] Have you ever thought about how much your turnover is costing you? [08:37] Do you have clear metrics for new hire progress, or are milestones vague and frustrating? [15:14] Are you documenting your trainings and FAQs in a way that allows new hires to self-reference instead of interrupting your workflow? What You’ll Discover: [01:52] How rapid-fire training during high-anxiety periods leads to forgetting 70 % of key information, a recipe for mistakes. [04:21] Why onboarding must include introductions, role clarity, and integration with your team’s culture. [07:45] The “five non-negotiables” framework per role as the foundation for repeatable onboarding. [08:37] A weekly rollout plan: training, dry runs, shadowing, then full live execution—designed for safe skill building. [11:23] How a roadmap with clear timing expectations empowers new hires to own their progress and ask for help at the right time. [13:43] Understand that even top-performing hires benefit from being slowed down during onboarding. [15:14] The importance of investing in recording training, creating SOPs, and building sandboxes for new hires. [16:57] Onboarding is a serious investment, and doing the hard work upfront gives your hires the tools they need to perform. [19:06] Understand that strong onboarding systems reduce team dependency and build cross-team confidence and clarity.

Aug 22, 2025 • 38min
Season 17 | Ep 197 | Fear vs Numbers with Bill Coletti
Are you struggling to make tough business decisions without second-guessing yourself? You’re not alone; many creatives struggle with balancing human connection with data-driven clarity. In this episode of The Agency Blueprint, I’m joined by Bill Coletti to discuss the interplay between fear and data in entrepreneurship, especially during pivotal decision-making moments. Bill is the founder of Kith.co and SCT Leadership, a seasoned entrepreneur, strategist, and author of Critical Moments. With decades of experience navigating global political campaigns and leading reputation management for brands like Target and American Airlines, Bill now dedicates his expertise to helping founders evolve into CEOs. Listen in to learn why basic understanding of financials is essential as a mindset shift when evolving from freelancer to CEO. You will also learn in detail the emotional and psychological challenges that come with leadership, hiring, and entrepreneurship. Key Questions: [01:27] How has fear—especially self-doubt—shaped your entrepreneurial journey? [04:42] Were there moments when data helped you manage or even intensify your fears? [09:39] How can creatives, who often dislike data, still use it effectively without sacrificing their creative edge? [19:11] How have you helped people to see where fear or logic is their guiding financial decision-maker? [22:00] What’s the worst possible outcome of your next big decision, and are you okay with it? [34:20] What if you stopped judging your emotions and started observing them instead? What You’ll Discover: [02:02] Bill’s internal fears during early entrepreneurship, including impostor syndrome and leaving the safety of a big firm. [04:55] How data became essential when he planned to exit his company, transitioning from a practitioner to a high-level operator. [07:39] The importance of not losing sight of humanity when relying on data, because numbers impact people. [09:57] How to keep communication simple and tie data directly to vision and execution as a data-averse creative. [11:36] The danger of creatives who ignore financials and how it turns businesses into hobbies. [13:50] The two major revenue inflection points—$300K and $1M—and what changes at each level. [17:28] Understanding what parts of financial management you can outsource and what parts you must still understand. [19:53] How a scarcity mindset can paralyze even a well-capitalized business from investing in growth. [23:53] How founders often double down on bad decisions to protect their ego, and how to break that pattern. [27:42] Why smooth sailing might not be teaching you anything and how challenges can become fuel for evolution. [31:08] How visualizing future success can re-energize your present and dissolve fear-based hesitation. [32:46] Understand why emotional self-awareness—not just strategy—is at the heart of great leadership. [34:42] How combining self-exploration with professional competence creates a balanced, effective leader. Connect with Bill: WebsiteLinkedIn

Aug 15, 2025 • 18min
Season 17 | Ep 196 | CEO Habits: Daily Practices that Keep You in Control
Are you one of those entrepreneurs that obsess over routines like cold plunges, journaling hacks, and early morning rituals hoping to unlock clarity and energy? These surface-level habits aren’t the key to running a thriving agency, mastering foundational leadership principles is. In this episode of The Agency Blueprint, I discuss four foundational leadership principles that drive better decision-making and sustainable agency growth. I explain the power of prioritizing needle-moving work, having constraints, using long-term vision to guide daily decisions, and having consistency over intensity. Don’t miss this episode to learn more about why boring but repeatable actions build real muscle in your business systems than shortcuts! Key Questions: [03:15] What problem are you solving now and is your current to-do list aligned with that? [04:23] What constraints could you create to protect your focus and eliminate constant pivots? [11:44] Are you showing up consistently in your business, or just chasing intensity every once in a while? What You’ll Discover: [01:07] Four basic principles that radically improve how you show up, make decisions, and grow your agency with intention. [01:32] Focus. Why doing less—but doing it better—is the true marker of successful CEOs and business leaders. [04:23] Constraints are a superpower. How applying constraints can prevent distractions and shiny object syndrome. [09:00] Use long-term vision to guide daily decisions. Clarity on destination helps filter decisions and avoid distractions. [11:44] Consistency over intensity. Business growth is built on reliable, repeatable systems—not short bursts of effort. [13:50] The importance of doing unsexy, repetitive tasks that most people ignore—true results lie in boring but crucial work. [16:32] Understand that real leadership isn't about hacks—it's about showing up daily with clarity, constraint, and discipline.

Aug 8, 2025 • 21min
Season 17 | Ep 195 | Revenue Is Not a Win: Why You Should Care More About Cash Flow
Is revenue growth the dangerous illusion that could be silently sabotaging your agency? While many agency owners celebrate high revenue, few realize that without healthy profit margins and sustainable cash flow, their business could be bleeding money. In this episode of The Agency Blueprint, we discuss how agencies become revenue-rich but profit-poor. We explain why mispriced services, long client payment terms, and unchecked operational costs quietly destroy profits. Don’t miss this episode to learn more about why running an agency requires smart, sustainable business models that go beyond vanity metrics like revenue! Key Questions: [01:36] What numbers actually matter to you if you want a healthy business, not just a busy one? [06:12] Could firing your biggest client actually be the smartest financial move? [10:28] Are you truly calculating all costs—including hires and subcontractors—before taking on new work? [11:40] Are you scaling your agency with a flawed business model that drains your resources instead of fueling growth? [13:20] Are your projects silently killing your profit by dragging on too long? [17:55] Do you know your minimum acceptable gross profit margin before taking on work? What You’ll Discover: [01:36] A breakdown of which financial metrics actually matter to build a stable, sustainable agency that supports your lifestyle. [02:48] Darren’s experience analyzing backend agency numbers and realizing just how misleading high revenue figures can be. [05:10] Example of an agency that lost money working for their biggest client—until a pricing overhaul doubled their profit in a year. [07:14] How rate sheets and blended rates are frequently miscalculated, which can lead to long-term damage. [08:38] The importance of saying no, pricing confidently, and understanding all cost implications before chasing more revenue. [11:40] The dangers of scaling with the wrong business model and what metrics show financial health. [13:03] How delivery delays can destroy project profitability and why throughput is the metric you might be missing. [14:29] How early visibility into negative cash flow lets you take smart action, like securing leads or re-aligning sales efforts. [15:43] Why chasing big revenue deals without evaluating the backend costs can quickly backfire. [17:55] How to assess whether your delivery model is built for growth, margin, or something unsustainable.

Aug 1, 2025 • 37min
Season 17 | Ep 194 | Non-Linear Agency Growth with Taylor Frame
Are you in the messy middle of growth, struggling to scale sustainably, or just craving more freedom without dropping balls? In this episode of The Agency Blueprint, I’m joined by Taylor Frame, co-owner and CRO of Best Practice Media, to discuss everything from systems building and team autonomy to the emotional rollercoaster of entrepreneurship. He opens up about what it takes to scale a successful digital agency from launching over 100 e-commerce brands to six-figure months to building a team of 30+ full-time staff. Listen in to learn the importance of time tracking, SOPs, and team delegation for service-based agency owners. You will also learn the importance of surrounding yourself with business-minded peers who understand your struggles. Key Questions: [01:18] How was your journey through Best Practice Media, and how was it different from your first agency? [09:55] What does grit actually look like when the results don’t match the effort, and clients still walk away? [17:00] What do you do when you feel like you're in the "swamp" of business, when nothing is going right, and you're getting hit left and right? [22:45] Do you run your agency by the numbers — and if not, how can embracing metrics give you clarity? [32:02] If you could go back to when you were earning $20K/month as a freelancer, what advice would you give yourself?” What You’ll Discover: [01:33] How Taylor “accidentally” became an agency owner and why systems and infrastructure are non-negotiable for true growth. [05:03] How self-limiting beliefs around systems can become your ceiling and hold everyone back. [08:03] How to use the 1-3-1 model to train your team to bring you clear problems, multiple solutions, and a recommended decision. [10:20] The mental toughness required to run a service business, even when clients leave despite strong results. [14:22] How separating business success from personal worth can be essential to staying sane and grounded as a founder. [17:36] The mindset and tactical frameworks needed to get you off the trenches of difficulty and stabilize your agency. [20:58] The importance of building a culture of systems to protect your team’s bandwidth and prevent burnout. [23:11] The three sets of numbers Best Practice Media uses: P&L for fiscal health, client health scores, and team bandwidth tracking. [28:15] How to define success from the client’s perspective to stay aligned and measure the right outcomes. [29:50] How Taylor’s agency is investing in AI to remove repetitive tasks from the team's plates, enabling them to become strategic thinkers. [32:14] The power of documenting everything with SOPs and always working to get things off your plate. [35:18] The importance of surrounding yourself with other business owners who understand your struggles. Connect with Taylor: WebsiteLinkedIn