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Feb 17, 2023 • 36min
Episode 446: Joan Benoit Samuelson; Pioneer in Women’s running- first Women’s Olympic Marathon Champion (1984)
Joan Benoit Samuelson is an icon in our sport! Joan is the gold medalist from the first women’s Olympic marathon in 1984. She held the American record for 28 years in the marathon, 2:21:21, which she ran in Chicago. She won the Boston Marathon in 1979 while a college student and she won it again in 1983. She is the founder of the Beach to Beacon race.
She is one of the founders of the Donna Marathon which is how we met each other! The Donna Marathon supports families walking through a breast cancer diagnosis through the Donna Foundation and it supports ground breaking research.
What we talked about:
4:55- Joan’s involvement with the Donna Foundation
6:30- Beach to Beacon
9:10- Her involvement in the running community
11:05- Winning the Boston Marathon and seeing a change in women’s running
16:05- Her passion for running
19:35- Running with her daughter
20:35- Shifting out of her professional running career
22:45- The current state of women’s running
27:55- Her impact on the sport
29:45- What matters most to her in life
33:00- Not allowing pressure to steal your joy
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Feb 14, 2023 • 1h 7min
Coaching Series Episode 1: Jon Green – Verde Track Club (IHA Episode 445)
I am so excited to bring you this 6 part coaching series on I’ll Have Another! I have had conversations with 6 different coaches in the running world and we are learning about their coaching philosophies and strategies and what their programs look like.
This first episode is with Jon Green who is Molly Seidel’s coach, who won the Olympic Bronze medal in the marathon under his coaching.
He recently formed the Verde Track Club out in Flagstaff. He coaches both professional and everyday runners.
Jon was also back on the show on episode 243 with Molly in April of 2020 after she made the Olympic team!
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What we talked about:
3:30- Introduction to Jon and his coaching
6:30- Molly winning the Bronze medal at the Olympics
11:25- Jon working with Stephen Haas
13:25- The business side of The Verde Track Club
16:00- Checking in on the athlete versus just looking at results
20:35- Tapering for the marathon and structuring a training plan for the marathon
24:50- Learning to listen to your body
29:05- How to choose which marathon to run
38:45- Finding an identity outside of coaching
44:30- Looking ahead at his running career
48:00- Getting into coaching
58:00- Jessa Hanson and recruiting her to the team
1:01:05- End of podcast questions
Show notes:
Verde Track Club on Instagram
Jon on Instagram
Verde Track Club Website
Jon on Episode 243 of the I’ll Have Another Podcast
Eat a Peach
Kitchen Confidential
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Feb 10, 2023 • 1h 11min
Episode 444: Vicki Hunter – Running and Returning: Seeking Balance in an Imperfect World
Vicki Hunter is a runner and author. She has a book out called Running and Returning: Seeking Balance in an Imperfect World. She was a competitive runner in her late 20s when she qualified for the Olympic Trials in the marathon in 1988. She went from a 3:50 to a 2:49 marathon in just 16 months. She was also in a horrific car accident while she was pregnant with her first child. She was in the hospital for 6 weeks and was in rehab her entire pregnancy. We talk a lot about that experience and how it changed her life. She ended up having a healthy baby girl on her due date.
This conversation is a story about Vicki’s relationship with running and how it has changed over the years but how it has always been something that is really important to her. She also recently ran a 3:28 marathon at the age of 62 so we talk about aging in this conversation as well!
What we talked about:
6:55- The book that she wrote, Running and Returning
21:05- The car accident that Vicki was in
29:25- Vicki’s running career
38:50- Her recovery after her car accident
55:05- Where she finds joy
57:50- How she handles aging
1:01:45- Moving to Hawaii
1:05:00- End of podcast questions
Show notes:
Vicki’s website
Vicki’s book
Vicki on Instagram
Black Cake
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Feb 3, 2023 • 1h 1min
Episode 443: Catching up with Sara Vaughn – Vaughn Childcare Fund and Heading to Boston
Sara Vaughn is back on the show for the fifth time!
Sara is a 1500m runner turned marathoner. She is the mom of four and a full time realtor. She ran her third marathon this past fall at the Chicago Marathon where she placed 7th in a time of 2:26:23. She recently announced that she will be running the Boston Marathon this Spring.
Sara just launched the Vaughn Childcare Fund to provide support for parenting undergraduate student-athletes. One of the big parts of Sara’s story is that she had her first baby while she was a junior in college as a student-athlete and she did not have a lot of resources herself so she has made it her mission to help provide people in similar situations with resources.
As the NCAA slowly adapts to include parents in their mission of education, inclusiveness, and well-being, they are still a highly underserved population. So Sara’s new project is going to help to fill that gap with financial support for childcare, mentorship, policy writing, and policy adoption.
What we talked about:
4:20- Catching up with Sara
8:45- Running an indoor track race with her daughter
11:15- Her experience being pregnant as a student athlete
16:50- What her support system looked like
22:15- Vaughn Childcare Fund
27:30- Being pregnant in college
30:50- How we can help with this new endeavor
37:05- Mentorship
40:30- Advice for anyone pregnant in college
44:30- Running the Boston Marathon
52:00- PUMA
Show notes:
Sara on Instagram
Vaughn Childcare Fund on Instagram
Vaughn Childcare Fund Website
Sara on Episode 283
Sara on Episode 302
Sara on Episode 349
Sara on Episode 416
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Jan 27, 2023 • 1h 15min
Episode 442: Lucy Bartholomew – Ultras and Ironman; Finding Joy in the Process
Lucy Bartholomew is an ultra runner and is now an Ironman. She completed her first Ironman last year, placing fourth and qualifying for the Kona World Championships so she will be doing that this year!
Lucy broke onto the Ultra scene in 2017. She placed third at Western States in 2018. She ran her first ultra at age 14, which is a really fun story that she shares about in this episode.
Lucy is supported by Salomon. Lucy has won a ton of prestigious races including Ultra Trail Cape Town, Ultra Trail Australia by UTMB, Devil’s Ridge Ultra, North Burn 100, and the list goes on!
We talk a lot about not being so focused on the results and focusing on process goals instead.
What we talked about:
4:30- Catching up about Lucy’s travels
10:15- Running her first 100k
13:30- Her dad’s running career
18:40- Her decision to not drink
20:35- Accepting yourself for what you can do on the day
28:20- Her 150 miler
30:10- Recapping her races at Western States
52:05- Her Ironman
1:05:30- End of podcast questions
Show notes:
Lucy on Instagram
The Slummer
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Jan 20, 2023 • 1h 15min
Episode 441: Laura Thweatt – A Fresh Outlook on Training and Racing
Laura Thweatt is back on the show! She was first on this podcast back in May of 2020 on episode 247.
Laura just announced that she is running the Boston Marathon. She is a 2:25 marathoner. She placed 5th at the Olympic Trials in Atlanta. This past fall, she had a disappointing race at the Chicago Marathon and she shares all about that in this episode. Laura has really changed her outlook on what 2023 is going to look like for her life, racing and training. She has a great mindset and you’ll hear all about it!
She is also running the USA Cross Country Championships in Richmond, Virginia this weekend!
Laura lives in Boulder, Colorado and she trains with the Boulder Harriers and is coached by Steve Jones.
What we talked about:
3:20- Running Boston
13:45- Finding confidence in running again
19:45- Her race at the Chicago Marathon
29:10- Running US Cross Country Championships
32:00- Social media
48:45- Training with the Boulder Harriers and being coached by Steve Jones
56:30- Taking the pressure off of her running
1:06:30- Wrap-up
Show notes:
Laura on Instagram
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Jan 13, 2023 • 1h 25min
Episode 440: Lauren Fleshman – Good for a Girl
Lauren Fleshman’s new book, Good for a Girl, is out now! Lauren has had a big career in so many different areas – running, entrepreneurship, coaching, etc. In her book, Lauren goes through all of that!
Lauren ran for Stanford where she was a 5-time NCAA Champion and 15-time All-American. Lauren went on to run professionally for Nike where she won 2 USA Championships and was on 5 World Championship teams. Lauren’s career had a lot of ups and downs and we chatted about that in this episode!
Lauren is an entrepreneur through and through. She is the founder of Picky Bars, hosts running retreats, and is the coauthor of the popular Believe Training Journal.
Photo credit: Cortney White & Oiselle
What we talked about:
4:00- Chatting about Lauren’s book
10:00- What needs to change in women’s sports
17:15- Parenting
20:25- Writing about her dad’s alcoholism in the book
22:00- Her own relationship with alcohol
28:10- Mental health
34:00- Coaching
37:20- Writing
46:50- Parenting
50:35- What’s next for Lauren
53:35- How her career sits with her now that she is retired
58:10- Speaking up in her career
59:20- Where she sees herself going after this book
1:03:00- How Oiselle changed her life
1:06:30- How she spectates the sport now
1:07:40- End of podcast questions
Show notes:
Lauren on Instagram
Good for a Girl
Lauren’s Website
Running While Black
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Jan 6, 2023 • 1h 4min
Episode 439: Elly Henes – Transition to Pro Running – 14:52 5k & Being Coached by Mike Smith in Flagstaff
Elly Henes is a professional runner for Adidas. She lives in Flagstaff and is coached by Mike Smith. Elly ran for NC State where she was an NCAA champion in the 5k. She won that title in 2021. This was exactly 30 years after her mom became NCAA Champion in 5k at NC State as well. She was coached by her mom at NC State.
She is a 10 time All-American and 6 time ACC Champion. She placed 6th at the 2020 Olympic Trials coming right off of her NCAA title!
Elly has a PR of 14:52 in the 5k which she ran in Berlin last year.
Last week, we released a re-run episode with Elly’s mom, Coach Laurie Henes, who is the cross country head coach at NC State. They just won their second national title in cross country at NC State.
What we talked about:
5:35- Growing up in Raleigh and then going to NC State
11:35- Being coached by Mike Smith
13:05- Her collegiate running career
15:35- Winning the NCAA title in the 5k 30 years after her mom did
19:00- Her mental health in and out of the sport
41:40- Elly’s training partners and choosing to be coached by Mike Smith
49:35- Placing 6th at the Olympic Trials
51:20- Managing expectations as a professional runner
56:00- Breaking 15 minutes in the 5k
58:15- End of podcast questions
Show notes:
Elly on Instagram
Fire & Blood
Maybe You Should Talk to Someone
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Dec 30, 2022 • 1h 3min
Episode 438: Re-Run Laurie Henes – NC State Women’s Head Track and Field Coach; NCAA Cross Country Championship in 2021Episode 438: Re-Run
Laurie Henes is Head Coach for Women’s Cross Country at NC State. Their team won the 2021 NCAA Cross Country title. This was the first women’s national cross country championship for NC State. Laurie was also named the 2021 USATFCCCA National Women’s Cross Country Coach of the Year.
Laurie ran for NC State where she won a 5k national title and set school and conference records. She finished 5th place at the 1993 USATF Nationals which earned herself a spot on the 1993 World University Games. Laurie also competed at the 1996 Olympic Trials in the 10k. She joined the NC State coaching staff in 1992.
She had a unique experience where she got to coach her daughter, Elly Henes, at NC State. Elly won the 5k NCAA national title in 2021.
In this episode, Laurie talks about what her legacy will look like at NC State, what it was like coaching her daughter, winning the national championship last year, cultivating a strong team culture, coaching while raising kids, and so much more!
What we talked about:
3:40- Celebrating the NCAA Championship
7:10- Her philosophy on the size of the team
9:05- Developing athletes over their entire collegiate career
12:00- What the team is up to right now
14:45- Building a strong team culture
23:05- Coaching her daughter
34:05- Coaching while raising kids
41:30- What her legacy will be at NC State
44:55- Working with the athletes outside of the athletic side
50:30- Being able to read different athletes and know what they each need
53:15- How she gets her athletes excited before the race
59:30- End of podcast questions
Show notes:
Maybe You Should Talk to Someone by Lori Gottlieb
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Dec 23, 2022 • 1h 4min
Episode 437: Paige Stoner – USATF National Marathon Champion at CIM in a Course Record of 2:26:02
Paige Stoner won the California International Marathon which was also the USATF Marathon Championships. This was her first US Title, a course record at CIM, and a brand new PR. She ran 2:26:02, which was a 51 second course record at CIM.
Paige runs for Reebok and is a coach at Run Free Training. She ran for Syracuse in college where she had a successful career.
CIM was only her third marathon. She ran the Marathon Project in 2020, Boston, and now CIM. She is only 26 years old, so she has a long career ahead of her that I am so excited to follow and cheer her on for!
Photo credit: Tony DiPasquale
What we talked about:
4:30- Catching up with Paige
5:15- Moving from Charlottesville to Flagstaff
8:30- The decision to run CIM this year
9:15- Thoughts on the CIM course
10:30- How the race played out
15:05- What her coaching situation looks like
17:25- How CIM changes the trajectory of her career
18:50- What she learned from her race at the Boston Marathon
20:10- Fueling on the run
24:00- Trajectory of her career since she started marathoning
25:20- Plans for the spring
25:50- Searching for a new coach and what that process looks like
30:15- Longevity in the sport
32:15- Mileage in her buildup to CIM
34:20- How she met her husband
36:35- Her high school running career
46:55- Coaching with Run Free Training
50:40- Her decision to run for the Reebok Track Club out of college
53:45- The decision to run professionally
55:35- Looking ahead and what she is most excited about going forward
56:30- End of podcast questions
Show notes:
Paige on Instagram
The Secret Race
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