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Mar 14, 2023 • 1h 9min
Coaching Series Episode 5: Jenna Wrieden – Hoka NAZ Elite (IHA Episode 453)
Jenna Wrieden is the assistant coach for Hoka NAZ Elite. She joined their coaching staff in January of 2021 after a long and successful coaching career in the NCAA system. She has lived all over the country for her coaching career including Appalachian State, ZAP Fitness, her alma mater Arizona State University, High Pointe University, Queens University, and most recently the University of Louisville.
Jenna also ran at Arizona State University with Amy Cragg and Des Linden!
I loved hearing about her role at NAZ Elite, her journey to get there, and being a mom and a coach.
Thank you to V.O2 for sponsoring this series of the podcast! Go to VDotO2.com and use the code “Lindsey” for 20% off the Adaptive Trainer service. If you want to learn more about utilizing V.O2 for coaching, email me at Lindsey@sandyboyproductions.com.
What we talked about:
5:30- Her path to becoming a coach
7:10- Running for Arizona State University
18:35- Getting the job at NAZ Elite
30:35- Creating a strong team culture
33:35- Coaching with a family
40:00- Transitioning to coaching longer distances
41:40- Writing training for each different athlete
43:20- Jenna’s coaching role
45:20- Coaching with Alan Culpepper
47:00- Recruiting new athletes to the team
51:20- End of podcast questions
Show notes:
Jenna’s NAZ Elite bio
NAZ Elite on Instagram
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Mar 10, 2023 • 1h 38min
Episode 452: Eric Avila – Pro Runner for Adidas on Burnout and Finding the Love of Running
Eric Avila is an Adidas athlete. He is a US National Road Mile Champion. After years of training with the Golden Coast Track Club, he has recently shared that he is now being coached by Ron Warhurst and training with the Very Nice Track Club out of Michigan.
He is a 4-time national champion from Southern Oregon University and 6-time all-American. He also talks about his time at NAU and coming back to school at Southern Oregon.
In this episode, we talk about his road to becoming a professional athlete. He had a moment where he walked away from the sport and I love the story about finding his way back. We also talk a lot about burnout and how to walk through that and overcome it.
What we talked about:
4:20- Transitioning to training with the Very Nice Track Club
6:50- Burnout
10:30- His history with running
15:40- Finding a love for running
20:40- Taking a break from running and school
31:05- NAIA
34:45: First going pro
47:00- Signing with adidas
51:35- The decision to leave Terrance Mahone and the Golden Coast Track Club
1:01:15- Burnout
1:24:00- Scratching out of USAs
1:29:00- End of podcast questions
Show notes:
Red Notice
Eric on Instagram
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Mar 7, 2023 • 1h 21min
Coaching Series Episode 4: Kevin Hanson – Hansons-Brooks ODP (IHA Episode 451)
Kevin Hanson has coached high school athletics, everyday runners, and professional runners. Over 20 years ago, Kevin and his brother Keith started the Hansons-Brooks Distance Project. They saw a need for training groups in America and they started their own! The model that the Hanson’s team set up has been followed up by many other groups throughout the country and the world.
The Hansons-Brooks team has produced 4 Olympians, 12 National Champions, 30 World Championship team members, 75 US National Team Members, and 186 top 10 finishes at US Championships. Some of the most notable runners that have run with the Hanson’s are Des Linden, Bryan Sell, and most recently, Natosha Rogers. Natosha recently signed with Puma, and we hear about that transition in this episode.
Kevin and Keith also own running stores in Michigan, where they live.
Thank you to V.O2 for sponsoring this series of the podcast! Go to VDotO2.com and use the code “Lindsey” for 20% off the Adaptive Trainer service. If you want to learn more about utilizing V.O2 for coaching, email me at Lindsey@sandyboyproductions.com.
What we talked about:
4:50- Running a half marathon in the marathon training block
11:05- A weekly training structure
18:55- Strength training in a marathon build
21:00- Starting the Hanson’s Brooks team
30:15- Natosha Rogers
34:10- Cross country championships
35:30- Boston coaching series
42:05- Balancing all of his passions
53:05- Who we should be watching in the sport
55:35- Walking through dissapointments with athletes
59:35- Changes he would like to see made in the running world
1:04:30- End of podcast questions
Show notes:
One Life
Running While Black
Hansons-Brooks Website
Hansons-Brooks on Instagram
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Mar 3, 2023 • 55min
Episode 450: Michele Gonzalez – Catching up with NYC Running Mama! 3:07 Marathoner, Ironman, Army Captain and Veteran
Michele Gonzalez is back on the show! Michele was first on the show on episode 16 back in 2016. Some of you may remember her as NYC Running Mama. She had a huge following on social media and with her blog, NYC Running Mama, back in the day. A couple of years ago, she decided that she needed to step away from social media and she shares about that in this episode.
Michele is a West Point grad, she spent 6 years active duty in the army. She is a 3:07 marathoner and is an Ironman. She is the mom of three and now works at Goldman Sachs in NYC.
In this episode, we talk about the transition from being a stay at home, training intensely and doing social media to where she is at now.
What we talked about:
4:05- Taking a break from social media
12:00- Introduction to Michele
15:00- Running an ironman postpartum
22:40- Social media
31:00- NYC Marathon
33:40- Thoughts on her marathon PR and her current training
42:40- Supershoes
44:50- Michele’s running
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Feb 28, 2023 • 53min
Coaching Series Episode 3: Sheila Burrell – San Diego State University and Women’s Running Coaches Collective (IHA Episode 449)
Today on the coaching series, I am so excited to bring Sheila Burrell onto the podcast! Sheila is a two-time Olympian in the heptathlon, she is a five-time US national champion, she is a world championships bronze medalist and in the 2004 Olympics she placed 4th. She is an alumni of UCLA and is now the Head Track and Cross Country Coach for San Diego State University.
In this episode, we talk about her own career as a heptathlete in the first half of the episode and then we get into her coaching career. It was so great to hear about what got her into coaching, her coaching philosophy, and the people that influenced and inspired her to be the coach that she is today.
Sheila is also the president of the Women’s Running Coaches Collective which is a really cool organization that she shares about in this episode! They’re doing really great work so make sure to go check them out!
Thank you to V.O2 for sponsoring this series of the podcast! Go to VDotO2.com and use the code “Lindsey” for 20% off the Adaptive Trainer service. If you want to learn more about utilizing V.O2 for coaching, email me at Lindsey@sandyboyproductions.com.
What we talked about:
4:10- How she got into heptathlon
5:25- Being recruited as a heptathlete
6:50- A rundown of the heptathlon
7:25- Her own heptathlon career
9:05- How to get more fans following the heptathlon
9:55- The story of her going pro
15:55- Where her drive came from and people that have had an influence on her
20:00- Influences on who the coach she is today
24:05- Her current coaching career at San Diego State
31:40- Changes in the NCAA
33:05- Working with athletes as they walk through changes with their body image
37:00- The Women’s Running Coaching Collective
42:50- Diversity in coaching
49:30- End of podcast questions
Show notes:
Women’s Running Coaches Collective on Instagram
Sheila on Instagram
Women’s Running Coaches Collective Website
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Feb 24, 2023 • 59min
Episode 448: Bailey Kowalczyk – Nike Trail Pro; The Balance of Health and Performance
Bailey Kowalczyk is a trail runner. I learned a lot in this episode, I love talking to trail runners! She recently signed a contract with Nike running with their trail team. She burst onto the trail scene in 2020 and she had some really great FKTs (fastest known time). Most recently, she had a really great race at the Golden Trail Series which is a stage race were she placed fifth overall. In this epsidoe, we go back to her day srunning at Clemson University. Bailey had some significant troubles at Clemson, she was medically released due to disordered eating. She moved to Boulder, Colorado after that and discovered trail running.
In this episode, we talk about some of Bailey’s hardships and about how she is passionate about running as your strongest, healthiest self.
What we talked about:
4:00- Signing a new sponsorship deal with Nike
4:20- The culture of trail running
6:35- Making an impact on the sport of running
9:15- Bailey’s story with running and disordered eating
24:25- The Golden Trail Series
27:05- A glimpse into her mindset while doing hard things
31:10- Glamorizing certain distances in running
34:10- Her journey into the trail scene from being a middle distance runner
38:05- What her training looks like
42:30- Being coached by David Roche and her spring racing schedule
45:10- How her child impacted the athlete that she is today
51:05- End of podcast questions
Show notes:
Bailey on Instagram
Bailey’s Website
Author suggestions: Liane Moriarty and Elin Hilderbrand
Me Before You
After You
Good for a Girl
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Feb 21, 2023 • 59min
Coaching Series Episode 2: Ryan Hall – Run Free Training (IHA Episode 447)
Today’s episode in this coaching series is with Ryan Hall! Ryan is one of the greatest American distance runners of all time! Ryan Hall is a two-time Olympian for the United States in the 2008 and 2012 Marathon. He is the fastest American to ever run the marathon (2:04:58) and half marathon (59:43) distances. Ryan retired from professional running in January of 2016 and is now one of the founders of Run Free Training.
In this episode, Ryan talks about some techniques and ways to stay in the game mentally when it feels daunting and hard. We also get to hear about his coaching and his training groups.
I loved digging into Ryan’s mentality and learning about how he coaches his athletes. I always walk away from conversations with Ryan inspired to work hard and to have a healthy mindset.
Thank you to V.O2 for sponsoring this series of the podcast! Go to VDotO2.com and use the code “Lindsey” for 20% off the Adaptive Trainer service. If you want to learn more about utilizing V.O2 for coaching, email me at Lindsey@sandyboyproductions.com.
What we talked about:
5:00- Coaching Ben Blankenship to the marathon
12:10- His mindset in running and lifting
17:35- Run Free Training
23:15- Sara’s training heading into Boston
29:50- Structuring training and racing ahead of the Olympic Trials marathon
30:30- Thoughts on the Olympic Trials
32:35- His daughter signing with NC State
37:00- Parenting and helping his kids manage their expectations athletically
40:15- Effort based training
42:40- The culture at Run Free
44:10- Goals in 2023
48:10- Advice to anyone going through struggles with their training cycles
54:40- End of podcast questions
Show notes:
The Boys in the Boat
Emmanuel Acho on Work Life with Adam Grant podcast
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Feb 17, 2023 • 36min
Episode 446: Joan Benoit Samuelson; Pioneer in Women’s running- first Women’s Olympic Marathon Champion (1984)
Joan Benoit Samuelson is an icon in our sport! Joan is the gold medalist from the first women’s Olympic marathon in 1984. She held the American record for 28 years in the marathon, 2:21:21, which she ran in Chicago. She won the Boston Marathon in 1979 while a college student and she won it again in 1983. She is the founder of the Beach to Beacon race.
She is one of the founders of the Donna Marathon which is how we met each other! The Donna Marathon supports families walking through a breast cancer diagnosis through the Donna Foundation and it supports ground breaking research.
What we talked about:
4:55- Joan’s involvement with the Donna Foundation
6:30- Beach to Beacon
9:10- Her involvement in the running community
11:05- Winning the Boston Marathon and seeing a change in women’s running
16:05- Her passion for running
19:35- Running with her daughter
20:35- Shifting out of her professional running career
22:45- The current state of women’s running
27:55- Her impact on the sport
29:45- What matters most to her in life
33:00- Not allowing pressure to steal your joy
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Feb 14, 2023 • 1h 7min
Coaching Series Episode 1: Jon Green – Verde Track Club (IHA Episode 445)
I am so excited to bring you this 6 part coaching series on I’ll Have Another! I have had conversations with 6 different coaches in the running world and we are learning about their coaching philosophies and strategies and what their programs look like.
This first episode is with Jon Green who is Molly Seidel’s coach, who won the Olympic Bronze medal in the marathon under his coaching.
He recently formed the Verde Track Club out in Flagstaff. He coaches both professional and everyday runners.
Jon was also back on the show on episode 243 with Molly in April of 2020 after she made the Olympic team!
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What we talked about:
3:30- Introduction to Jon and his coaching
6:30- Molly winning the Bronze medal at the Olympics
11:25- Jon working with Stephen Haas
13:25- The business side of The Verde Track Club
16:00- Checking in on the athlete versus just looking at results
20:35- Tapering for the marathon and structuring a training plan for the marathon
24:50- Learning to listen to your body
29:05- How to choose which marathon to run
38:45- Finding an identity outside of coaching
44:30- Looking ahead at his running career
48:00- Getting into coaching
58:00- Jessa Hanson and recruiting her to the team
1:01:05- End of podcast questions
Show notes:
Verde Track Club on Instagram
Jon on Instagram
Verde Track Club Website
Jon on Episode 243 of the I’ll Have Another Podcast
Eat a Peach
Kitchen Confidential
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Feb 10, 2023 • 1h 11min
Episode 444: Vicki Hunter – Running and Returning: Seeking Balance in an Imperfect World
Vicki Hunter is a runner and author. She has a book out called Running and Returning: Seeking Balance in an Imperfect World. She was a competitive runner in her late 20s when she qualified for the Olympic Trials in the marathon in 1988. She went from a 3:50 to a 2:49 marathon in just 16 months. She was also in a horrific car accident while she was pregnant with her first child. She was in the hospital for 6 weeks and was in rehab her entire pregnancy. We talk a lot about that experience and how it changed her life. She ended up having a healthy baby girl on her due date.
This conversation is a story about Vicki’s relationship with running and how it has changed over the years but how it has always been something that is really important to her. She also recently ran a 3:28 marathon at the age of 62 so we talk about aging in this conversation as well!
What we talked about:
6:55- The book that she wrote, Running and Returning
21:05- The car accident that Vicki was in
29:25- Vicki’s running career
38:50- Her recovery after her car accident
55:05- Where she finds joy
57:50- How she handles aging
1:01:45- Moving to Hawaii
1:05:00- End of podcast questions
Show notes:
Vicki’s website
Vicki’s book
Vicki on Instagram
Black Cake
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