

Marketing For Learning®
Marketing for Learning
The only podcast in the world that’s going to help you better understand marketing for learning® fundamentals and help you tackle your learner engagement problem once and for all! Hosted by Ashley Hinchcliffe and Hannah Clark, this podcast comprises of short bursts of learning and insights to help you embrace marketing tactics, strategies and thinking.
Marketing for learning.
It’s our business.
www.maas-marketing.co.uk
Marketing for learning.
It’s our business.
www.maas-marketing.co.uk
Episodes
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Aug 12, 2022 • 48min
Ep 26 - Laura Overton On How To Get Bold In L&D
What a conversation! Jam-packed with stats, data, and research, Laura Overton never disappoints! In this session, Ashley and Laura discuss marketing for learning and Laura tells us what it really takes to get bold in L&D.
Relevant links:
Marketing MAASterclass course
5 New Thinking Habits For a Smarter, Stronger L&D
Embracing Change Report
Sign up to Laura's newsletter
Find Laura on LinkedIn and Twitter
Learning Changemakers

Jul 11, 2022 • 39min
Ep 25 - Data in L&D - An Interview with NilesNolen
L&D is going through the transformation marketing went through around 13 years ago. It’s time to start thinking about the experience, about the tech and how your people interact with it, and where it makes sense for learning to step in. And data helps us along that journey.
In this podcast, Ashley was joined by Lori and Amanda from NilesNolen. A learning consultancy that describe themselves as Mary Poppins with a chainsaw – going into companies with a dose of sugar and the goal of helping them maximise their investment in EdTech. In this chat, Lori, Amanda and Ashley focus on data and the future of L&D.

Jun 23, 2022 • 10min
Ep 24 - Compliance Is Ruining Our Fun
Ahhh compliance. The bugbear of many an L&D department. Isn't it time we got rid of it?
In this episode, Ash explores whether compliance training is doing more harm than good and indeed the impact it could be having on our overall learning brand. Ten sweet succulent minutes of Ashley's brain thoughts.
https://www.marketingforlearning.com/

Jun 8, 2022 • 14min
Ep 23 - The importance of messaging in branding
This podcast discusses the importance of messaging in branding for L&D brands. It covers topics like developing a messaging framework, using learner personas and tone of voice, the significance of taglines and brand pillars, and creating consistent communication in the learning context.

May 30, 2022 • 11min
Ep 22 - It’s L&D, not A&E
Is L&D deemed an essential function in your organisation? How much would things break if L&D disappeared tomorrow?
Regardless of the answer, you need to know because these internal attitudes will affect your learning strategy, your marketing strategy and more. Ashley explores this subject more deeply today.

May 12, 2022 • 4min
NEWS! New Marketing For Learning Course
We're so excited to announce that our brand new Marketing MAASterclass (yeah, we made a pun out of our brand name #sorrynotsorry) is HERE. We're accepting our first cohort to kick off w/c May 30th and tickets are selling fast 🍍
More information and how to sign up here: https://bit.ly/3lmuPiJ
P.S. Soz for the shameless self-promotion. We hope keeping this separate from the episodes means you don't have to listen to our drivel if you don't want to!

May 9, 2022 • 16min
Ep 21 - 5 Things That Make Our Function, Uh, Dysfunctional
Alright, you know Ashley goes on and on about our mindsets and how we need to shift and evolve it. In this episode she digs a bit more deeply into how that mindset is affecting key parts of L&D such as the curious and frankly fruitless pursuit of a single solution to our problems.
She explores data, engagement and why we need to partner more consciously with the business too. If you're facing real challenges in your L&D department, this one's for you.
www.marketingforlearning.com

Apr 26, 2022 • 13min
Ep 20 - My Beef With Kevin Costner & Using Demand Generation
If you build it, they will come. NO Kevin. No. Field of Dreams has been misleading us all, and in this episode Ashley explores why this mindset is causing us all measure of issues in L&D.
She covers how other brands are undertaking marketing, and why she believes it's absolute madness that L&D thinks creating a tech ecosystem is enough to excite and engage learners. She suggests doing pure demand generation to build trust with learners and ultimately engage with them on a long-term journey.
Bit of a ranty episode, but some good meaty chunks in there 🍖
www.marketingforlearning.com

Apr 19, 2022 • 17min
Ep 19 - Data, Analytics and Testing
If you want to improve your marketing for learning approaches, you must use data to test and learn more about your audience. This test > learn > iterate loop is incredibly common in the marketing world, and in this episode Hannah explores some of the simple starting points for collecting data, why it will help you improve and even what data you should start looking at.
It's 16 mins of sheer bliss 🥰
Correlation vs causation video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaETnBzM7yU

Mar 25, 2022 • 45min
Ep 18 - ING Bank - Moving From Content to Community Management - Alvaro Caballero
Believe it or not, this L&D team does not create learning content 🤯
Ashley was joined by Alvaro Caballero, who recently headed up the learning team at ING Bank (he's since moved on to become the Head of People at DataSnipper). Al tells our listeners about the brave and bold journey his team went on, flipping L&D on its head, completely abandoning content creation and instead focusing on curation, communication and community.
ING Bank's team has been on quite a journey and Al tells our listeners his learnings, failures and what it really takes to make marketing for learning successful in a large corporation.
If you'd like to talk to Al about his experience, you can connect with him on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alvarocc/