
The ABMP Podcast | Speaking With the Massage & Bodywork Profession
Our goal is to speak with luminaries and experts in and around massage and bodywork to help expound upon and better understand our profession and our practices.
Latest episodes

Sep 24, 2024 • 24min
Ep 462 – Understanding Tissue Relationships: Your Practice in 3D with Nicole Trombley and Rachelle Clauson
Nicole Trombley, an anatomy expert, and Rachelle Clauson, a skilled massage therapist, dive into the complex world of tissue relationships in massage therapy. They emphasize how understanding the interconnectedness of muscles and fascia can enhance therapeutic practices. The conversation includes insights on practical applications gained from dissection labs and how these experiences can deepen a therapist's expertise. They encourage ongoing education to better perceive and affect client anatomy, promoting optimal movement and function.

Sep 17, 2024 • 33min
Ep 461 - Calm Under Stress: The Ayurvedic Guide to Nasal Breathing in Exercise with Dr. John Douillard
In this conversation with Dr. John Douillard, a leading Ayurvedic educator with 40 years of experience, the focus is on the transformative power of nasal breathing during exercise. He explains how this technique replaces stress with composure and enhances flexibility. The duo also delves into the role of carbon dioxide in breath control, linking it to emotional resilience and athletic performance. Dr. Douillard shares tools for optimal brain function, promising a refreshing look at ancient practices meeting modern science.

Sep 13, 2024 • 13min
Ep 460 - A Spending Freeze to Reset Finances: “Business or Pressure” with Allissa Haines
Allissa Haines, a practicing massage therapist and columnist for Massage & Bodywork magazine, dives into the concept of a spending freeze to help reset financial habits for small business owners. She discusses how this strategy encourages a focus on essential expenses and sheds light on common pitfalls, like excess massage linens, which can harm quality over time. Allissa provides practical tips for implementing a spending freeze and highlights the benefits of reevaluating financial disciplines in the massage industry.

Sep 10, 2024 • 19min
Ep 459 - Hereditary Hemochromatosis: “I Have a Client Who . . .” Pathology Conversations with Ruth Werner
Ruth Werner, a pathology expert, dives into the complex world of hereditary hemochromatosis, a condition impacting iron metabolism and leading to serious joint issues. She discusses a specific client facing hip pain and considering joint replacement, complicating matters with their recent strokes. Ruth unpacks how iron overload can cause joint damage and the challenges of providing bodywork in such cases. This insightful conversation emphasizes the need for careful management and inter-professional communication in treating clients with this condition.

Sep 3, 2024 • 14min
Ep 458 - Migraines, Meninges, & Massage Therapy: “The Rebel MT” with Allison Denney
Allison Denney, a certified massage therapist and host of a podcast dedicated to migraines, dives deep into the complexities of these debilitating headaches. She unpacks the fascinating history and anatomy of migraines, revealing how our understanding has evolved. The discussion explores the role of the meninges and the trigeminal nerve, shedding light on potential treatment strategies. Denney emphasizes the phases of migraines and the importance of symptom tracking and bodywork techniques for effective recovery, offering valuable insights for both therapists and sufferers.

Aug 30, 2024 • 16min
Ep 457 – Smart Money Moves for Small Business Owners: “Business or Pressure” with Allissa Haines
Allissa Haines is a practicing massage therapist, business owner, and columnist dedicated to empowering the massage community. In this conversation, she shares essential financial strategies for small business owners, emphasizing the importance of separating business and personal finances. Allissa explores establishing clear payment structures and evaluating discounts to promote sustainable financial health. With her practical insights, she guides listeners towards making smart money moves for a robust business foundation.

Aug 27, 2024 • 20min
Ep 456 – The Power of Not Knowing with Doug Nelson
Doug Nelson, a seasoned massage therapist and educator, shares insights on the strength found in not knowing. He emphasizes that true confidence diverges from mere bravado and highlights the importance of tenacity and curiosity in therapeutic practices. Nelson discusses the value of embracing failure as part of learning, advocating for critical thinking over simple answers. He narrates personal anecdotes illustrating how confronting uncertainty can lead to professional growth, underscoring the need for a beginner's mindset in continuous learning.

Aug 20, 2024 • 21min
Ep 455 - Attention, Emotion, and Repetition with Cindy Williams
Cindy Williams, a massage therapist and bodywork expert with over 24 years of experience, discusses how to help clients change ingrained patterns for better well-being. She emphasizes the importance of attention, emotion, and repetition in learning new movement patterns. Cindy highlights the need for practitioners to recognize harmful habits and guide clients through healthier movements. Mindfulness and emotional engagement are key in transforming client sessions, making lasting changes more achievable.

Aug 16, 2024 • 13min
Ep 454 – Do I Need a Separate Phone Number for My Business?: “Business or Pressure” with Allissa Haines
Allissa Haines, a practicing massage therapist and business owner, dives into the nitty-gritty of whether you need a separate phone number for your business. She discusses the perks of maintaining professional boundaries and shares practical solutions for obtaining that second number. The conversation also touches on tax deductions related to business phones and highlights essential compliance for LLC owners. Allissa encourages listeners to prioritize their professional image while navigating the complexities of ownership reporting.

Aug 13, 2024 • 15min
Ep 453 – EVAR Failure: “I Have a Client Who . . .” Pathology Conversations with Ruth Werner
In this discussion, Ruth Werner, an expert in pathology and client care, delves into a complex case involving an older client with severe leg pain following aortic surgery. She explores the critical decisions a young massage therapist must make in navigating this life-or-death scenario. The conversation covers the intricacies of iliac artery grafts, the evolution of endovascular aneurysm repair, and the essential role of patient safety. Ruth emphasizes the importance of professional boundaries and advocating for a client's health in challenging situations.
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