
Startups For the Rest of Us
The original podcast for bootstrapped and mostly bootstrapped startups, this show follow the stories of founders as they start, acquire, and grow SaaS companies. Hear when they fail, struggle, succeed, and take you with them through the tumultuous life of a SaaS founder. If you like Mixergy, This Week in Startups, or SaaStr, you’ll enjoy Startup for the Rest of Us.
Latest episodes

Jul 18, 2023 • 26min
Episode 670 | Relying on Luck, Avoiding Burnout, and Bad Player vs. Bad Instrument (A Rob Solo Adventure)
In this insightful conversation, a seasoned entrepreneur discusses the delicate balance of luck, hard work, and skill needed for success. He shares personal experiences with burnout, offering strategies to navigate mental well-being in high-stress environments. The podcast also draws intriguing parallels between quality music instruments and effective marketing strategies, emphasizing the importance of experience in overcoming business challenges. Listeners gain valuable insights on delegation and a growth mindset as essential elements for thriving in the startup world.

Jul 11, 2023 • 37min
Episode 669 | 10 Years to Overnight Success: Bootstrapping to a Multi-Million Dollar Exit
Rick Hymanson, founder of detamoov and former leader of Shugo, shares his fascinating entrepreneurial journey. He describes the emotional rollercoaster of exiting Shugo, dubbed 'ten years to overnight success.' Rick discusses the strategic pivot that led to product-market fit and building his SaaS business alongside a day job. He emphasizes the importance of intellectual property in driving value and reflects on the community support that paved the way for his next venture. Tune in for insights on navigating startup challenges!

Jul 4, 2023 • 50min
Episode 668 | 9 Key Takeaways from MicroConf U.S. 2023 in Denver
Discover the vibrant takeaways from the recent MicroConf US 2023 in Denver. Founders share their struggles in a supportive environment, highlighting the importance of mental health. Experience the innovations that led to the new 'Chaos Lunch' format! Dive into the motivations behind launching SaaS businesses, where personal freedom and community play key roles. Plus, enjoy insights on authentic Twitter engagement for sustainable growth, all sprinkled with humorous moments from the event!

Jun 27, 2023 • 31min
Episode 667 | Increase Your Exit Price by Decoupling Yourself from Your Business with John Warrillow
John Warrillow, author of Built to Sell, joins to discuss his newest venture, VidGuide, a tool for creating effective Standard Operating Procedures (SOPs). He reveals his motivations for launching VidGuide and the importance of validating SaaS ideas. The conversation highlights how well-structured SOPs can increase a business's exit price and shares success stories of others utilizing SOPs effectively. John also dives into the challenges of customer validation and enhancing user adoption of new software solutions.

Jun 20, 2023 • 53min
Episode 666 | Entering a Competitive Market, Books for SaaS Founders, and More Listener Questions with Derrick Reimer
Derrick Reimer, founder of SavvyCal, joins the discussion, offering insights for SaaS founders navigating competitive markets. He emphasizes the importance of idea validation and understanding customer needs before launching products. Stress management while growing a business is tackled, alongside tips for non-technical founders on finding co-founders or opting for outsourcing. The conversation also highlights essential books for entrepreneurs, providing strategies for effective customer engagement and marketing.

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Jun 13, 2023 • 33min
Episode 665 | How to Find More "Best Fit" Customers for Your SaaS
Georgiana Laudi, co-author of "Forget the Funnel," shares her insights on customer-led growth strategies. She highlights the importance of concise business writing with their book kept under 200 pages. Laudi discusses why traditional marketing funnels are outdated, advocating instead for a framework rooted in understanding customer needs. The conversation also covers how to effectively conduct Jobs-to-be-done interviews and integrate these insights into marketing strategies. Additionally, she humorously recounts her experiences recording the audiobook.

Jun 6, 2023 • 35min
Episode 664 | The Challenges of Horizontal SaaS, Adding Services to a SaaS, and More Listener Questions
Explore the intricacies of positioning a new SaaS business with varied use cases and dive into the debate of consumption versus seat-based pricing. Discover the right moments to expand your SaaS offerings beyond core problems. Learn about building a marketing flywheel for a two-sided marketplace and the unique challenges faced by single parents in managing time effectively. Practical solutions and personal insights provide a well-rounded perspective on balancing entrepreneurship and family life.

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May 30, 2023 • 36min
Episode 663 | 5 Insights SaaS Founders Should Know About A.I. (Ignore at Your Peril)
Einar Vollset, an expert in AI's implications for SaaS, shares crucial insights for founders navigating the new landscape of artificial intelligence. He discusses the four categories of AI and stresses the importance of integrating AI into business models. Vollset warns against viewing AI as merely a product differentiator and explores the potential benefits of using AI internally to boost efficiency. He emphasizes the risk of outdated business models, encouraging adaptability and innovative thinking to maintain competitiveness.

May 23, 2023 • 34min
Episode 662 | Selling for Five Years of Runway, Profit vs. Revenue Multiples, and More Listener Questions (Rob Solo)
Explore the fascinating journey of evaluating when to sell your business. Discover the strategic considerations for acquisitions and how shifting jobs influences startup dynamics. Learn how to sell for five years of runway and recognize when it's time to move on from your SaaS project. Delve into the differences between profit and revenue multiples while navigating the complexities of business valuations. Plus, gain insights into leveraging professional assistance for maximizing sale potential!

May 16, 2023 • 29min
Episode 661 | Millions in Revenue As a One-Person Software Company
Mike Perham, founder of Sidekiq, shares insights on building a multimillion-dollar software company solo. He discusses transforming Sidekiq from an open-source project into a profitable venture through a smart open-core model. Mike reveals the decade-long journey that led to his 'overnight success,' emphasizing the importance of customer feedback and community engagement. He also dives into the challenges of hiring skilled engineers and keeping pace with competitors while staying true to customer needs.