
Shift Key with Robinson Meyer and Jesse Jenkins
Every week, Heatmap News Executive Editor Robinson Meyer and Princeton University Professor and energy systems expert Jesse Jenkins make sense of the biggest shift of our time -- navigating the energy transition away from fossil fuels. Drawing on their years of experience reporting on and researching climate change and decarbonization, Meyer and Jenkins unpack the most important issues of the week and how the impacts of climate change and efforts to address it are transforming our economy, politics, and society at large. Music by Adam Kromelow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Latest episodes

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Sep 18, 2024 • 1h 8min
Why Geothermal Is So Hot Right Now
Geothermal energy is making waves, with recent advancements in enhanced geothermal technology paving the way for a cleaner, more reliable power grid. Fervo Energy’s Utah project is leading the charge with record production capacity. The discussion sheds light on how oil and gas industry expertise is transforming geothermal development, and innovative drilling techniques promise to make this energy source more accessible. With competitive advantages and a bright future on the horizon, geothermal could become the go-to clean energy source of the 2030s.

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Sep 11, 2024 • 1h 9min
A Beginner’s Guide to the Interconnection Queue
Discover the tangled world of the interconnection queue, the notorious bottleneck for renewable energy projects in the U.S. Delays can stretch over a decade, hampering the shift to wind and solar. Experts break down the urgent need for reform and innovative solutions like automation and AI to streamline connections. The conversation also highlights challenges posed by Texas's unique electricity market and competition with data centers for clean energy resources. Tune in for insights on overcoming these obstacles to unleash the potential of carbon-free energy!

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Sep 4, 2024 • 53min
What 2024 Will Mean for Clean Energy — in Megatons
Sonia Aggarwal, CEO of Energy Innovation and former climate policy advisor under President Biden, discusses the pivotal role of the 2024 election on U.S. emissions. She highlights how different political outcomes could drastically alter climate trajectories. The conversation delves into impactful decarbonization strategies, the transformation of steel production, and the economic ramifications of clean energy policies. Aggarwal emphasizes the urgency of aggressive actions to meet 2030 climate goals and the game-changing potential of solar energy innovations.

Aug 28, 2024 • 1h 4min
How 2025 Could Reshape Climate Policy — No Matter Who Wins the Election
Josh Freed, a key figure in climate politics, discusses the pivotal year of 2025 for U.S. climate policy. He explores how the outcome of the 2024 elections could reshape the Inflation Reduction Act and tax legislation, highlighting potential scenarios with Trump or Harris in power. The conversation covers the implications for EV production and consumer tax credits, the evolving political dynamics, and the challenge of integrating climate action with economic competitiveness. Freed emphasizes the urgent need for strategic planning in a polarized landscape.

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Aug 21, 2024 • 58min
This Isn’t the Same Kind of Climate Election
Kamala Harris, the Democratic presidential nominee, and Joe Biden discuss the changing landscape of climate discourse in politics. They analyze the reduced emphasis on climate change in this election compared to 2020 and its implications for voter engagement. The conversation delves into the impact of the Inflation Reduction Act on American manufacturing and clean energy investments. They also explore the tension between economic concerns and climate initiatives, touching on progress in solar energy and the challenges facing wind capacity in the U.S.

Aug 14, 2024 • 53min
Why Treasury’s No. 2 Official Wants Permitting Reform
The podcast dives into the monumental impacts of the Inflation Reduction Act, specifically its tax credits aimed at green energy. Wally Adeyemo, a key figure in implementing the Act, discusses the critical need for permitting reform to support clean energy initiatives. The conversation highlights how these changes can boost job creation and the economy while balancing environmental protections. With bipartisan support emerging, the urgency for efficient regulatory frameworks is emphasized to keep pace with America's energy transition.

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Jul 24, 2024 • 44min
Humanity’s Most Abundant Material Is a Huge Climate Problem
Cody Finke, CEO of Brimstone, discusses decarbonizing cement production to reduce its massive climate impact. Topics include the challenges in developing carbon-free cement, the importance of sustainable practices in the concrete industry, and innovative methods for lowering emissions through silicate rocks.

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Jul 17, 2024 • 33min
How to Decarbonize the World’s Biggest Ships
Discover how Fleetzero is revolutionizing the shipping industry by using batteries to decarbonize massive ships, reducing emissions and offering a cleaner alternative to traditional bunker fuel. Learn about the challenges and advancements in battery technology, the potential impact on international shipping, and the importance of transitioning to more sustainable practices.

Jul 10, 2024 • 1h 4min
What the Supreme Court’s Rulings Mean for Climate Change
A solo episode discussing how recent Supreme Court rulings impact climate change regulations, affecting agencies like the EPA. Experts analyze the limitations on federal regulatory power, focusing on cases like Loperbright. The episode explores implications for climate law and the challenges of the deregulatory revolution.

Jul 3, 2024 • 41min
How Europe and America Are Weatherproofing Climate Policy
Former EU official, Ann Mettler from Breakthrough Energy, discusses climate policy challenges in Europe and US. Topics: Inflation Reduction Act surprise in Europe, American policy outlook, preparing climate policy for rising tensions. Insights on Europe's Green Deal, global economic order shifts due to China, and EU-US cooperation. Emphasis on regulatory enhancements, clean energy collaboration, and technological deployment for climate action.
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