
Shift Key with Robinson Meyer and Jesse Jenkins
Every week, Heatmap News Executive Editor Robinson Meyer and Princeton University Professor and energy systems expert Jesse Jenkins make sense of the biggest shift of our time -- navigating the energy transition away from fossil fuels. Drawing on their years of experience reporting on and researching climate change and decarbonization, Meyer and Jenkins unpack the most important issues of the week and how the impacts of climate change and efforts to address it are transforming our economy, politics, and society at large. Music by Adam Kromelow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Jan 29, 2025 • 50min
The Trump Policy That Would Be Really Bad for Oil Companies
Rory Johnston, an oil markets analyst and lecturer at the University of Toronto, dives into the potential fallout from President Trump's proposed 25% tariffs on Canadian and Mexican crude oil imports. He explains how these tariffs could severely impact U.S. refineries that rely on Canada’s heavy oil. The discussion covers the historical evolution of U.S.-Canadian oil trade, the environmental implications of different extraction methods, and how grassroots activism shapes pipeline developments. Johnston also addresses the economic consequences for consumers and refiners.

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Jan 22, 2025 • 1h 12min
How Wildfires Destroyed California’s Insurance Market
Benjamin Keys, a Professor of Real Estate and Finance at the Wharton School, dives into how California's wildfires have wreaked havoc on the state's insurance market. He explains the escalating costs of insurance and the risks homeowners face, as well as the looming financial crisis for insurers. The discussion highlights the intricate relationship between rising insurance costs, home values, and regional banking stability. Keys also sheds light on federal flood insurance and the need for proactive measures in the face of climate change.

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Jan 15, 2025 • 1h 12min
A Beginner’s Guide to the Hydrogen Economy
Delve into the world of hydrogen and its potential to combat climate change. Explore the complex relationship between hydrogen production, decarbonization, and the evolving energy landscape. Discover the challenges of shipping hydrogen and the economic implications of U.S. policies like the hydrogen tax credit. Learn how hydrogen could transform industries while navigating the international competition and strategies shaping its future. The conversation also touches on innovative approaches in extraction and the properties that make hydrogen both promising and problematic.

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Jan 8, 2025 • 1h 3min
Have China’s Emissions Already Peaked?
Lauri Myllyvirta, co-founder and lead analyst at the Centre for Research on Energy and Clean Air, discusses China's emissions landscape. He explores whether China's coal emissions have peaked despite ongoing new coal projects. The conversation dives into the booming electric vehicle market and its implications for urban air quality, alongside China’s rapid renewable energy growth. Myllyvirta also addresses the structural challenges facing the country's transition to sustainable energy, highlighting the complexity of its policies.

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Jan 1, 2025 • 58min
Answering Your Questions on AI and Energy, the Economics of Solar, the GND’s Legacy, and More
Kicking off the New Year, the hosts tackle listener questions on pressing topics like the Green New Deal and the Inflation Reduction Act's legacy. They dive into the promise of vehicle-to-grid technology and the societal shifts needed for effective decarbonization. Concerns about AI-driven data centers and their energy demands are raised, alongside solutions like off-grid solar systems. The surge in global solar PV capacity sparks optimism, and emerging trends in geothermal energy showcase a bright future for renewables.

95 snips
Dec 24, 2024 • 49min
So, What Does AI Really Mean for Decarbonization?
Lucia Tian, a clean energy leader at Google; Matt DeNichilo, a power investment expert; and Allison Clements, a former energy regulator, discuss the energy demands of AI and data centers. They explore how to meet rising electricity needs while advancing decarbonization. The conversation highlights the potential role of nuclear power, the importance of innovative renewable solutions, and the regulatory challenges facing the evolving electric grid. Collaboration between tech companies and energy regulators emerges as vital for a sustainable future.

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Dec 18, 2024 • 1h 3min
Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm on What Comes After Biden’s Climate Agenda
In this engaging discussion, Jennifer Granholm, the 16th U.S. Secretary of Energy and former governor of Michigan, reflects on her tenure and the Biden administration's climate strategies. She details the transition of the Department of Energy into a driving force for clean energy innovation. Granholm delves into the complexities of fossil fuel dependency, bipartisan support, and the future of clean energy technologies, particularly in light of the Inflation Reduction Act. Her insights offer a hopeful outlook on America's energy landscape and the importance of strategic initiatives for sustainable growth.

50 snips
Dec 11, 2024 • 51min
Shift Key Classic: How China Created an EV Juggernaut
In this engaging discussion, Ilaria Mazzocco, Deputy Director at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, dives deep into China's electric vehicle revolution. She highlights how BYD has become a formidable player, outpacing Ford and Honda in sales. Ilaria also examines the impact of U.S. tariffs on EV markets and the strategic importance of government policies in China's rapid EV adoption. The conversation covers global market dynamics, traditional automakers' challenges, and the technological advancements driving this electrifying transformation.

36 snips
Dec 4, 2024 • 1h 4min
How Democrats Are Trying to Trump-proof Their Big Climate Law
In this discussion, Kristina Costa, Deputy Assistant to the President for Clean Energy Innovation, outlines pivotal aspects of the Inflation Reduction Act. She highlights its unprecedented scale and urgency amidst potential political shifts. Costa delves into the importance of state capacities in advancing these climate goals and the need for innovative federal tools to compete with global leaders like China. Additionally, she shares strategies to safeguard these climate initiatives from future threats, emphasizing collaborative efforts in the private sector.

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Nov 27, 2024 • 1h 6min
How Trump Could Dent EVs in America
Corey Cantor, a Senior EV analyst at BloombergNEF, dives into the intricate dynamics of electric vehicles in the U.S. He discusses the recent surge in EV sales, spotlighting GM's advancements while contrasting it with Ford's delays. The conversation shifts to potential repercussions of Trump's policies on EV tax credits and adoption rates. Cantor highlights international collaboration affecting the U.S. market and examines the pivotal role of state incentives amid evolving competition, especially from China.
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