
2Bobs—with David C. Baker and Blair Enns
Conversations on the art of creative entrepreneurship with David C. Baker and Blair Enns
Latest episodes

Jun 4, 2025 • 27min
The Waterfall of Differentiation
Creative firms often struggle with differentiation, failing to answer key questions in the right order. The discussion highlights the vital role of clear categorization and specialization in reducing competition. Listeners learn how effective positioning can enhance client perceptions and pricing power. Real industry examples showcase the challenges of creating a unique value proposition. Finally, the conversation encourages a fresh perspective on firm size and its influence on agency selection in a crowded market.

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May 21, 2025 • 30min
Always Be Anchoring
Explore the fascinating world of anchoring in decision-making, where initial information can drastically influence choices. Discover how creative firms can use strategic pricing to shape client perceptions effectively. Learn when to present anchor options for maximum impact in sales conversations. The discussion also covers counter-strategies to tackle the anchoring effect in negotiations, showing that understanding this psychological tactic is key to successful negotiations and pricing.

May 7, 2025 • 24min
What to Ask, Sign, and Share With a Potential Buyer
Discover the pivotal role of professional advisors in navigating business negotiations. Learn key questions to ask potential buyers about their motivations and the importance of understanding their strategies. Transparency in financial discussions is crucial, but how can sensitive data be protected? Plus, the unique value of building relationships over shared meals is highlighted to foster trust during negotiations. Equip yourself with essential documents and strategies to lead successful conversations with potential buyers.

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Apr 23, 2025 • 26min
The Power of a Metaphor
Discover how unexpected metaphors can enhance communication and branding. The hosts share amusing examples to illustrate effective metaphor usage for selling expertise. Learn how metaphors simplify complex concepts through relatable comparisons, like whitewater kayaking. Explore the idea of selling as a form of leadership and how to inspire clients rather than just persuade them. Find out how expert advisors can facilitate client decision-making with unbiased options and the role of transparency in building credibility.

Apr 9, 2025 • 25min
Should You Entertain That Acquisition Offer?
Exploring the world of business acquisitions, this discussion emphasizes the importance of not dismissing offers outright. It introduces a four-point framework for evaluating unexpected sale inquiries, encouraging openness to innovation. The speakers delve into the delicate balance of making quick judgments in negotiations and the emotional complexities involved. They stress the significance of firm stability and readiness while navigating potential opportunities. Overall, it's a thoughtful journey through the nuances of considering acquisition offers.

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Mar 26, 2025 • 24min
When Your Clients Talk to Each Other
The podcast delves into the fascinating dynamics of client interactions, particularly how vertical positioning can foster communication. It discusses the challenges and perks of clients talking among themselves and the importance of tailoring pricing strategies based on perceived value. The conversation navigates the art of effective communication, especially in industries reliant on mutual referrals. Additionally, it tackles the effects of client comparisons on service expectations and proposes innovative strategies to enhance relationships and upend traditional communication flows.

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Mar 12, 2025 • 29min
Facing an Existential Crisis?
The discussion dives into the harsh realities facing businesses in today's economy, emphasizing the stark contrast between those thriving and those on the brink of collapse. Practical strategies are shared for mitigating risks, including managing financial obligations and client relationships. Insights on navigating existential crises highlight the importance of resilience and self-honesty in addressing challenges. Listeners are encouraged to confront their situations with a proactive mindset and make timely, strategic decisions to steer their firms toward stability.

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Feb 26, 2025 • 41min
Who Should Set Prices?
Dive into the complexities of pricing in professional services, where the discussion centers on who should really set those prices. Explore the balance between centralized and decentralized pricing authority, weighing the pros and cons of each approach. Learn about innovative recruitment strategies that assess candidates' pricing acumen. Discover the importance of communication and understanding value when assigning pricing responsibilities, and how training should prioritize aptitude over seniority. Pricing isn't just a number; it's a strategy!

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Feb 12, 2025 • 33min
10 Reasons a Buyer Might Want Your Firm
The hosts debate whether to build a firm with the intent to sell or to operate as if it will never be sold. They discuss the significance of client concentration risks and the strategic value of diversifying client portfolios. Intellectual property is highlighted as a key asset in firm sales, with advice on its development and protection. Insights on pricing strategies in acquisition deals reveal how profit margins can boost market value. Finally, they explore motivations behind mergers, including geographic expansion and the trends of mentorship and succession planning.

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Jan 29, 2025 • 36min
To Standardize or Customize
The discussion dives into the tug-of-war between standardization and customization in creative services. Blair shares insights from his writing journey, revealing the complexities of productizing while meeting unique client needs. RFPs are scrutinized, uncovering how they can undermine creativity. The hosts explore emotional hurdles in pricing tailored solutions and examine innovative pricing strategies. A framework for integrating standard processes while allowing for customization is proposed, illustrating the delicate balance necessary for success.