

The Real Word
The Real Word
Welcome to The Real Word, hosted by real estate professionals and entrepreneurs Byron Lazine and Nicole White. Each week, Byron and Nicole share their word on current industry news, discuss rackets flooding the industry, and shout out a marketeer of the week.
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Jan 31, 2023 • 29min
Will Jason Oppenheim's Lawsuit Prediction Be The END Of NAR? | The Real Word 258
Byron Lazine and Nicole White discuss U.S. home seller profits in 2022, a warning from Jason Oppenheim about commission suits, the increase in Americans living paycheck to paycheck, and the impact of ice storms hitting the South and Midwest.
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This episode's sources:
https://nowbam.com/u-s-home-seller-profits-in-2022/
https://www.inman.com/2023/01/30/jason-oppenheim-commission-suits-will-be-armageddon-for-real-estate/
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/31/share-of-americans-living-paycheck-to-paycheck-jumped-in-2022.html
https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/ice-storm-central-southern-us-01-31-23/index.html
Timestamps:
00:00–03:13 Intro
03:13 Topic #1: U.S. Home Seller Profits in 2022
04:37 What does this mean for the market moving forward?
07:20 What Byron expects for homeowners in 2023
09:39 Why Nicole expects a decline in sales this year
13:13 Topic #2: Jason Oppenheim’s warning about commission lawsuits
15:33 Will the exodus happen, and what will that do to the industry?
17:08 Byron’s question for agents: Eliminate dual agency or leave things as they are?
19:05 If NAR loses this October lawsuit, they are done.
20:34 Left, Middle, Right #1: 64% of Americans are living paycheck to paycheck
23:18 LMR #2: Winter ice storms hitting the South and central U.S.
28:03 Nicole’s new Instagram account
#nationalassociationofrealtors #realestatenews #realestatepodcast

Jan 24, 2023 • 26min
it's over. Airbnb Flips the Housing Market in These 25 Cities | The Real Word 257
Byron Lazine and Nicole White discuss Airbnb restrictions, inflation’s impact on millennials, Microsoft’s multi-billion dollar investment in ChatGPT maker OpenAI, Americans leaving California and New York, and a new wealth tax that would include wealthy former CA residents.
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This episode's sources:
https://nowbam.com/airbnb-restrictions-25-cities-cracking-down-on-short-term-rentals/
https://nowbam.com/92-of-millennials-say-inflation-has-altered-their-home-buying-plans/
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/23/microsoft-announces-multibillion-dollar-investment-in-chatgpt-maker-openai.html
https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/new-york-california-suffer-biggest-blow-more-americans-flee-low-tax-states
https://nypost.com/2023/01/24/california-dems-consider-wealth-tax-including-for-people-who-moved-out-of-state/
Timestamps:
00:00–00:21 Intro
01:08 Topic #1: 25 Cities Cracking Down on AirBnB
07:33 Is AirBnB a good investment?
08:51 Advice for people investing in single-family homes for short-term rental use
12:20 Topic #2: 92% of Millennials Say Inflation Has Altered Their Home Buying Plans
13:48 How inflation has specifically changed home buying
18:20 All these bullet points could be email subject lines (and videos)
19:22 Left, Middle, Right #1: Multibillion dollar Microsoft investment in OpenAI
20:20 BAM’s live demonstration: using ChatGPT to create listing descriptions
21:37 BAM’s upcoming ebook with Chris Smith—an AI 101
22:01 LMR #2: Americans leaving New York & California for low-tax states
22:10 LMR #3: California democrats consider wealth tax including those who moved out of state
25:25 Live-stream with KCM at 3 pm ET
#airbnb #shorttermrentals #realestatepodcast

Jan 17, 2023 • 29min
Keller Williams Cold Calling Lawsuit & What Agents Need To Know | The Real Word 256
Byron Lazine and Nicole White discuss the Keller Williams cold call class action lawsuit, insights on home price cuts jumping from 7.1% to 13.6%, and China’s first population decline in 60 years.
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This episode's sources:
https://www.inman.com/2023/01/13/keller-williams-to-pay-40m-to-settle-cold-call-class-action-lawsuit/
https://www.marketwatch.com/picks/the-percentage-of-homes-with-price-cuts-jumped-from-7-1-in-december-to-13-6-this-year-so-we-asked-7-economists-and-real-estate-pros-is-now-the-time-to-buy-before-the-spring-rush-hits-01673635377?mod=mortgage-rates
https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/16/economy/china-population-decline-sixty-years-intl-hnk/index.html
Timestamps:
00:00–00:35 Intro
00:35 Topic #1: The Keller Williams $40 million settlement and task force
01:03 Another BAM cold calling event!
05:42 “Nicole, what I don’t want to happen here…”
12:10 Big takeaways for agents
14:26 Topic #2: MarketWatch article on the jump in home price cuts
15:06 A better question to ask (and answer)
16:15 Predictions from economists and RE professionals (True or False)
23:14 Left, Middle, Right: “China records first population decline in 60 years” (CNN)
25:16 Population and the economy
26:26 Long-term projections for China
#kellerwilliams #coldcalling #realestatepodcast

Jan 10, 2023 • 32min
The eXp CEO Just Blamed THIS On The Housing Market | The Real Word 255
Byron Lazine and Nicole White discuss statements by eXp Realty founder Glenn Sanford and Compass CEO Robert Reffkin, the rise in consumer confidence, Jamie Dimon’s confidence in the U.S. consumer, and the redevelopment of unused office space as housing.
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This episode's sources:
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/09/consumer-confidence-in-housing-rises-as-prices-fall.html
https://www.inman.com/2023/01/09/exps-sanford-speaks-out-on-lull-in-agent-growth-executive-shakeup/
https://www.foxbusiness.com/real-estate/us-real-estate-monumental-opportunity-solve-housing-crisis-2023-expert
https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/jpmorgans-jamie-dimon-more-optimistic-us-consumer
Timestamps:
00:00–02:33 Intro
02:33 Racket #1—eXp Founder Glenn Sanford Speaks Out on “Lull” (Inman)
07:08 Why has eXp’s agent count growth stopped?
14:29 Any CEO that blames the market…
15:08 Racket #2: Consumer confidence rises as prices drop (CNBC)
19:21 Despite mortgage rates around 6%, two out of five people still want to buy a home.
21:33 It all comes down to inventory.
24:16 Left, Middle, Right
24:33 #1—”Monumental opportunity to solve housing crisis in 2023” (Fox Business)
26:28 The issues involved in turning office space into housing
28:38 LMR #2—Jamie Dimon optimistic about the U.S. consumer (Fox Business)
29:06 The biggest argument against the consumer
#realestatenews #realestatepodcast #realestateupdates

Jan 3, 2023 • 43min
The TRUTH About Being A Part Time Real Estate Agent | The Real Word 254
Byron Lazine and Nicole White discuss expired listings, BAM’s live cold-calling event, part-time agents and their place in the industry—with some surprising words from Byron—and the widely-varying predictions on the value of bitcoin in 2023.
Listen in for an EPIC LIVE Expired Listings Call with Byron Lazine, Tom Toole & Dan Oneil
Wednesday, January 4, 2023 at 4PM EST
https://mailchi.mp/1b8d03499988/calling-expired-listings-live
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCH7tF5seHI
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This episode's sources:
https://brokeagentmedia.com/expired-listings-are-a-goldmine/
https://brokeagentmedia.com/you-might-be-a-part-time-agent-if/
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/02/the-boldest-bitcoin-price-predictions-for-2023.html
Timestamps:
00:00–01:36 Intro
01:36 Topic #1: Expired Listings Are a Goldmine” (BAM)
03:51 The BAM live cold-calling event (January 4th)
04:52 How important are expireds, and why do so many agents hate them?
11:35 The beautiful thing about expired listings
13:45 Topic #2: Part-Time Agents (BAM)
24:21 Byron re-evaluates his assessment of PT agents and their place in the industry
29:46 “This is just a continuation of who you are.”
35:31 Content from Byron to help PT agents compete with FT ones.
36:37 Left, Middle, Right: “Bitcoin calls for 2023 are out…” (CNBC article)
40:00 Focus on the main things.
#realestateagent #realestatenews #realestatepodcast

Dec 27, 2022 • 30min
What Falling Home Prices Mean For The 2023 Market | The Real Word 253
Byron Lazine and Nicole White discuss the Case-Schiller update for December 2022, a great Twitter follow for real estate agents, a BAM article on marketing trends that won’t make it to 2023, and the pitfalls of the quiet quitting trend for employees.
PropStream is the leading real estate data and analytics platform, no matter what your real estate goals are. Get more listings, close more deals with PropStream.
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This episode's sources:
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/home-price-growth-falls-in-october-as-market-feels-effect-of-high-mortgage-rates-11672149882
https://brokeagentmedia.com/these-marketing-trends-arent-making-it-to-2023/
https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/workplace-quiet-quitting-trend-pitfalls-employees
Timestamps:
00:00–00:42 Intro
00:42 Topic #1: Case-Schiller update & Tweet thread
00:57 Twitter follow: Lance Lambert
06:43 Optimism and the housing market
10:57 The Fed is doing everything it can to fight inflation, but…
12:43 Topic #2: BAM article: “These Marketing Trends Are Not Making It to 2023.”
13:11 #1: Celebrity endorsements
15:42 #2: Curated IG Feeds.
17:24 #3: Audio Spaces (versus Twitter Spaces)
19:47 #4: Long-Form Videos
23:23 LMR: Quiet Quitting Trend & Pitfalls
24:12 Here’s where it relates to real estate agents

Dec 20, 2022 • 37min
Team Structures Are RUINING Real Estate Rankings | The Real Word 252
Byron Lazine and Nicole White discuss team structures (and why they’re a train wreck), the rising need for down payment assistance, what it means when really wealthy people start unloading their real estate, and dollar stores leading the surge in retail store openings.
PropStream is the leading real estate data and analytics platform, no matter what your real estate goals are. Get more listings, close more deals with PropStream.
Try PropStream now: https://bit.ly/PropStream-BAM
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This episode's sources:
https://www.inman.com/2022/12/20/team-structures-are-a-trainwreck-heres-why-its-ruining-rankings/
https://brokeagentmedia.com/over-1-million-searched-for-down-payment-assistance-last-year/
https://www.wsj.com/articles/casino-mogul-steve-wynn-is-betting-on-the-luxury-market-as-he-unloads-300-million-in-personal-real-estate-11671484843
https://www.wsj.com/articles/dollar-stores-lead-a-surge-in-new-retail-openings-11671532203
Timestamps:
00:00–00:50 Intro
00:50 Topic #1: “Team Structures are a Train Wreck”
03:44 Agents paying for top ranking
12:35 I don’t believe a team could be in multiple states.
21:32 Topic #2: “Over one million searched for down payment assistance”
25:05 Directing potential buyers to the right places for assistance
28:08 Telling the consumer what it [really] costs to buy a home
29:39 LMR #1: “Casino mogul Steve Wynn is betting on the luxury market.”
31:21 An indicator of what’s to come?
32:00 LMR #2: (WSJ) “Dollar stores lead the surge in retail openings.”
33:05 If you're an agent who serves in an underserved rural area...

Dec 13, 2022 • 27min
Zillow Just Changed Listing Photos FOREVER | The Real Word 251
Byron Lazine and Nicole White discuss Zillow’s acquisition of VRX Media, the hottest housing markets for 2023, the 10-year Treasury yield dropping below 3.5%, agents calling out San Antonio’s negative traits, and Twitter Blue’s relaunch with a steeper price for Apple users
PropStream is the leading real estate data and analytics platform, no matter what your real estate goals are. Get more listings, close more deals with PropStream.
Try PropStream now: https://bit.ly/PropStream-BAM
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Connect with Nicole White:
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This episode's sources:
https://brokeagentmedia.com/zillow-group-acquires-vrx-media/
https://brokeagentmedia.com/will-these-be-the-hottest-housing-markets-in-2023/
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/12/13/treasury-yields-ahead-of-novembers-consumer-inflation-figures.html
https://therealdeal.com/texas/2022/12/09/agents-call-out-san-antonios-negative-traits-on-youtube/
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/12/12/twitter-blue-relaunches-with-steeper-price-for-apple-users-.html
Timestamps:
00:00–01:24 Intro
01:24 Topic #1 – Zillow Group Acquires VRX Media
04:40 Never underestimate Zillow
07:36 Following in PlanOmatic’s footsteps?
10:35 Topic #2 – Hottest Housing Markets for 2023
11:21 These are not major cities
12:37 They’re referencing affordability
15:47 Left, Middle, Right #1: 10 Yr Treasury Yields Drop
18:28 LMR #2: Agents call out San Antonio’s negative traits
22:22 LMR #3: CNBC – Twitter Blue relaunches

Dec 6, 2022 • 45min
Could This Cost Opendoor BILLIONS? | The Real Word 250
Byron Lazine and Nicole White discuss the existential crisis of Opendoor, a lawsuit involving a MV Realty, the fate of Biden’s student debt relief in the Supreme Court, and an update on the University of Idaho murders.
PropStream is the leading real estate data and analytics platform, no matter what your real estate goals are. Get more listings, close more deals with PropStream.
Try PropStream now: https://bit.ly/PropStream-BAM
Subscribe to the BAM YouTube channel:
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Connect with Byron:
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5AM Call Sign-up: https://www.5amcall.com
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Connect with Nicole White:
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This episode's sources:
https://www.inman.com/2022/12/05/opendoor-faces-existential-crisis-as-ibuying-fights-for-survival/ https://6abc.com/mv-realty-homeowner-benefit-program-selling-home-help-philadelphia-lawsuit/12529841/
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/12/05/supreme-court-tackles-biden-student-loan-plan.html
https://nypost.com/2022/11/28/university-of-idaho-murders-update-what-we-know-so-far/
Timestamps:
00:00–01:58 Intro
01:58 Topic #1: Opendoor faces existential crisis
25:41 Topic #2: MV Realty accused of deceptive practices
28:28 Clip of news coverage
32:49 Left, Middle, Right
33:09 Supreme Court likely to rule Biden's student debt relief program illegal
38:18 Update on the University of Idaho murders
#opendoornews #realestatenews #realestatepodcast

Nov 29, 2022 • 26min
"There's NO FIXING Compass" - Jason Oppenheim | The Real Word Episode 249
Byron Lazine and Nicole White discuss older generations living alone, Jason Oppenheim’s incendiary opinion on Compass, Elon Musk’s claim that Apple is threatening to remove the Twitter app, and Whole Foods angering—and endangering the livelihoods of—local lobstermen.
PropStream is the leading real estate data and analytics platform, no matter what your real estate goals are. Get more listings, close more deals with PropStream.
Try PropStream now: https://bit.ly/PropStream-BAM
Subscribe to the BAM YouTube channel:
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Connect with Byron:
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This episode's sources:
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/27/us/living-alone-aging.html# .
https://www.inman.com/2022/11/28/jason-oppenheim-theres-no-fixing-compass-its-unfixable/
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/28/elon-musk-claims-apple-has-threatened-to-remove-the-twitter-app-.html
https://www.foxnews.com/media/maine-lobsterman-whole-foods-more-homework-pulling-lobsters-stores-rare-whale
Timestamps:
00:00–01:19 Intro
01:19 Topic #1: “More Older Americans Are Living By Themselves…” (NYT)
07:05 A growing percentage (over 30%) of people want their own space.
08:05 The increase in divorces is also a contributing factor
08:40 Topic #2 – “Jason Oppenheim: There’s No Fixing Compass…” (Inman)
12:40 A systemic problem with brokerages and a race to the bottom
16:20 Byron’s invitation to debate this one out on the BAM stage.
19:42 Left, Middle, Right #1 – “Elon Musk Claims Apple Has threatened to Remove the Twitter App.” (CNBC)
20:40 Elon needs to be careful.
21:53 Agents need to be on the Zillow platform.
22:30 LMR #2 – “Maine Lobsterman urges Whole Foods to Do Its Homework Before…”
23:28 Whole Foods(/Amazon) is green-washing.
24:43 Agents need to be the voice shouting out dependable local businesses


