

The Real Word
The Real Word
Welcome to The Real Word, hosted by real estate professionals and entrepreneurs Byron Lazine and Nicole White. Each week, Byron and Nicole share their word on current industry news, discuss rackets flooding the industry, and shout out a marketeer of the week.
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Apr 11, 2023 • 35min
Zillow Deepens Home Buyer Trust & Inman's Strange Phone Call | The Real Word 268
Byron Lazine and Nicole White discuss Zillow’s new monthly payment search filter, the increase in property taxes, and an Inman opinion piece responding to Byron’s previous comments on the article, “I’m an agent. You can’t tell me what to wear on the job.”
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This episode's sources:
https://nowbam.com/zillow-now-allows-home-buyers-to-search-based-on-monthly-payments/
https://nowbam.com/another-affordability-hurdle-property-taxes-are-up-across-the-u-s/
https://www.inman.com/2023/04/06/you-cant-tell-an-agent-what-to-wear-i-said-then-you-responded/
Timestamps:
00:00–01:02 Intro
01:02 #1: Zillow allows buyers to search based on monthly payments
07:58 #2: Property taxes are up across the country
18:32 #3: The Inman phone call & article
22:20 “Hey, are you mad at Rachael, who wrote ‘Bare Minimum Monday’ last week…?”
26:03 "We've got to have Rachael on this show.”
31:43 “52% of sellers in 2023 are Boomers…”
#zillow #homebuyers #inman

Apr 4, 2023 • 26min
March Madness Chaos Ensues As Trump's Indictment Threatens Real Estate Empire | The Real Word 267
Byron Lazine and Nicole White discuss a BAM post on three lessons from March Madness, plus news on the Trump indictment and the “Bare minimum Monday” TikTok Trend.
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This episode's sources:
https://nowbam.com/3-lessons-from-march-madness-to-help-you-win-in-real-estate/
https://therealdeal.com/new-york/2023/04/03/trump-indictment-poses-risk-for-real-estate-empire
https://www.inman.com/2023/04/01/bare-minimum-monday-how-this-tiktok-trend-could-change-your-work-week/
Timestamps:
00:00–00:50 Intro
00:50 Racket #1: “Three Lessons from March Madness” (BAM)
07:55 Racket #2: The Trump indictment and his real estate empire (The Real Deal)
12:01 Racket #3: “Bare Minimum Monday?” (Inman)
19:29 Reactions to the TikTok video
#marchmadness #donaldtrump #realestatepodcast

Mar 28, 2023 • 35min
Patrick Bet-David VS Barry Habib - Housing Affordability Debate | The Real Word 266
Byron Lazine and Nicole White discuss agents losing leads to Homes.com, commercial real estate hitting a wall, and a Valuetainment YouTube video with Barry Habib on the challenges American home buyers face in today’s market.
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This episode's sources:
https://nowbam.com/breaking-is-homes-com-using-your-name-to-steal-your-leads/
https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/27/investing/premarket-stocks-trading/index.html
https://youtu.be/J6Ni0aZckwg
Timestamps:
00:00–01:12 Intro
01:12 Topic #1: Is Homes.com using agent names to steal leads?
06:05 Byron discovers an Inman ad with his name on it
08:51 Response from Homes.com
13:21 “I don’t believe she has a case against Homes.com”
15:22 Topic #2: Commercial real estate is in trouble
22:29 Employers using webcams to track their remote employees
27:22 Topic #3: Valuetainment video: “Americans can’t afford to buy homes…”
31:01 Do you see affordability improving in 2023?
#patrickbetdavid #housingaffordability #realestatepodcast

Mar 21, 2023 • 34min
How Rising Interest Rates Will Impact Millennials & Boomers | The Real Word 265
Byron Lazine and Nicole White discuss the warning by Million Dollar Listing star Josh Altman, the tug of war between millennials and boomers, what Zillow CEO Rich Barton is saying with his prediction for the housing market and what “back to the basics” really means.
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This episode's sources:
https://www.foxbusiness.com/real-estate/million-dollar-listing-star-warns-ca-mansion-tax-deliver-hardest-hit-since-2007
https://www.inman.com/2023/03/20/the-tug-of-war-between-millennials-and-boomers-heats-up-this-spring/
https://www.inman.com/2023/03/17/zillow-ceo-rich-barton-the-real-pain-is-probably-coming/
Timestamps:
00:00–02:55 Intro
02:55 Topic #1: California mansion tax
08:17 Thoughts on the mansion tax
11:27 Thoughts on property taxes and how they’ll impact inventory
16:22 Topic #2: The tug-of-war between millennials and boomers
23:00 Why the new market won’t save homebuyers
25:26 Topic #3: Zillow CEO Rich Barton says “The real pain is probably coming”
29:14 What “back to the basics” really means
#millennials #interestrates #realestatepodcast

Mar 14, 2023 • 24min
Brad Inman's Hot Take On The Second Largest Bank Collapse in History | The Real Word 264
Byron Lazine and Nicole White discuss the importance of Silicon Valley Bank (SVB), the Plunk app and Plunk’s recent partnerships with three tech startups, and Elon Musk’s planned Texas fiefdom.
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This episode's sources:
https://www.inman.com/2023/03/13/silicon-valley-bank-was-part-of-an-ecosystem-that-sped-up-innovation/?utm_source=inbriefnonselect&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=inbrief&utm_content=965183_dek_0_20230313&message_id=30820768.37860
https://nowbam.com/plunk-partners-with-3-tech-startups-to-shake-up-the-real-estate-industry/
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-03-13/elon-musk-s-planned-texas-fiefdom-is-a-billionaire-tradition?cmpid=BBD031323_CUS&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&utm_term=230313&utm_campaign=closeamericas&leadSource=uverify%20wall
Timestamps:
00:00–02:30 Intro
02:30 Racket #1: SVB Bank sped up innovation (Inman)
04:01 60 years of SVB and the 2nd biggest bank collapse in U.S. history
07:56 High-risk moves made by SVB
10:42 How important are regional banks for residential real estate?
14:26 Racket #2: Plunk shakes up the real estate industry
15:43 What Nicole likes about Plunk
17:53 Byron’s take on Plunk as a disruptor
19:43 Racket #3: Elon Musk’s planned Texas fiefdom
21:54 Could this be the future of how we build infrastructure in other towns?
#inman #siliconvalleybank #realestatepodcast

Mar 7, 2023 • 38min
Warning For Luxury Agents: Less Million-Dollar Homes | The Real Word 263
Byron Lazine and Nicole White discuss the biggest regrets of first-time sellers, the 1.25M drop in million dollar homes, and a sneak peak into Re/Max strategy for 2023 with CEO Nick Bailey.
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This episode's sources:
https://nowbam.com/biggest-regrets-of-first-time-sellers/
https://www.inman.com/2023/03/06/theres-1-25-million-fewer-million-dollar-homes-in-america-in-2023/
https://www.inman.com/2023/03/03/re-max-ceo-nick-bailey-agents-who-ignore-tech-will-be-replaced/
Byron Lazine Podcast episode with Nick Bailey & Tom Toole: https://nowbam.com/meet-the-remax-ceo-of-142000-agents-in-118-countries/
Chris Smith episode: “The Marketing Advice All Agents Must Hear”: https://nowbam.com/the-marketing-advice-all-agents-must-hear/
Timestamps:
00:00–00:56 Intro
00:56 Racket #1: Biggest regrets of first-time sellers
09:48 Regret #4: Not making home improvements
14:18 Racket #2: There’s 1.25M fewer million dollar homes in the U.S. in 2023
27:03 Racket #3: Re/Max CEO’s sneak peek for 2023
35:56 “Consistency is undefeated” (Jared James)
#milliondollarlistings #realestatemarket #realestatepodcast

Feb 28, 2023 • 25min
Why Lawsuits In Real Estate Can See An Increase in 2023 | The Real Word 262
Byron Lazine and Nicole White discuss the rise of lawsuits against real estate professionals, the top legal issues for real estate agents, a NAR ad on building relationships, and the rollout of NAR’s fifth “That’s Who We Are” campaign after their latest fee hike.
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This episode's sources:
https://nowbam.com/lawsuits-against-real-estate-professionals-are-on-the-rise/
https://nowbam.com/the-top-5-legal-issues-every-real-estate-agent-needs-to-know/
https://www.nar.realtor/magazine/real-estate-news/sales-marketing/build-relationships-that-last-through-good-bad-markets
https://www.inman.com/2023/02/24/nar-rolls-out-5th-thats-who-we-r-ad-campaign-after-fee-hike/
https://www.youtube.com/@realtors6724/videos
Timestamps:
00:00–01:45 Intro
01:45 Racket #1: Lawsuits against real estate professionals (BAM)
03:41 Inspection waivers and poorly-trained agents
05:43 You need to be upfront and honest about market conditions
08:25 Follow-up emails with deadlines—and why NOT to use the word “assume”
11:14 Racket #2: Build relationships that last through good/bad markets” (Realtor Magazine)
13:41 What great agents are doing: Giving great, trustworthy, transparent advice
17:47 Racket #3: NAR’s 5th ad campaign (Inman)
20:21 Byron and Nicole react to three of the new NAR ads
#realestatenews #realestateagent #realestatepodcast

Feb 21, 2023 • 32min
Grant Cardone Says THIS Will Save Housing | The Real Word 261
Byron Lazine and Nicole White discuss the housing market correction, rising mortgage rates, little things that can undermine your real estate business, and Grant Cardone saying real estate investors will prevent a home price crash.
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This episode's sources:
https://fortune.com/2023/02/20/housin...
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/02/18/home-...
https://www.inman.com/2023/02/20/gary...
https://nowbam.com/chasing-balloons-h...
https://www.businessinsider.com/real-...
00:00–02:22 Intro
02:22 Racket #1: Gary Keller’s Inman article
07:56 Nicole’s take on Gary Keller’s article
10:23 The huge silver lining
11:09 Where Byron disagrees with Keller
14:02 Racket #2: Grant Cardone saying he’ll “save the day”
18:24 “What he’s gonna do is make it more unaffordable for entry-level buyers.”
19:39 Racket #3: Are the “little things” undermining your business?
21:34 Ryan Serhant’s $250,000,000 listing

Feb 14, 2023 • 29min
The TRUTH About Realtor Dress Codes | The Real Word 260
Byron Lazine and Lisa Chinatti discuss the singles tax and how housing costs impacts move-in behavior, professional attire for real estate agents, and what we can expect from January’s 0.5% increase in inflation.
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This episode's sources:
https://nowbam.com/the-cost-of-love-how-money-impacts-move-in-decisions/
https://www.inman.com/2023/02/13/im-an-agent-you-cant-tell-me-what-to-wear-on-the-job/
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/02/14/consumer-price-index-january-2023-.html
Timestamps:
00:00–01:22 Intro
01:22 Topic #2: “The Cost of Love” (BAM)
05:54 Millennials & Gen Z are going into debt for dating (& Valentine’s Day)
09:08 Topic #2: “I am an agent: You cannot tell me what to wear…” (Inman)
10:51 Is there a dress code of real estate?
18:58 Professionalism in attire is more inclusive (and respectful) than sloppiness
21:28 Left, Middle, Right: “Inflation rose 0.5% in January” (CNBC)
22:54 Why real estate agents need to take action now.
28:24 Sign up to join our ChatGPT workshop on Thursday with Chris Smith
#realestatepodcast #realestatenews #realestatecontent

Feb 7, 2023 • 29min
Why Mortgage Rates Are DAMAGING Affordability | The Real Word 259
Byron Lazine and Nicole White discuss homebuyers paying thousands up front to buy down their mortgage rate, three effective ways to spend $3,000 on your real estate business, and the test run of Biden’s reelection message in today’s State of the Union address.
Sign up for the BAM live cold calling event with four top agents on Wednesday, February 8th at 4pm EST: https://mailchi.mp/nowbam/circle-prospecting-live-event
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This episode's sources:
https://www.inman.com/2023/02/07/most-homebuyers-forking-out-big-bucks-to-buy-down-mortgage-rate/
https://www.realestatenews.com/2023/02/04/have-usd3000-here-are-3-ways-to-spend-it-on-your-business
https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/07/politics/president-biden-state-of-the-union-2023/index.html
Timestamps:
00:00–00:52 Intro
00:52 Topic #1: Most homebuyers forking out big bucks to buy down mortgage rate
03:25 Why does it make sense right now to buy down the mortgage rate?
11:57 Topic #2: 3 Ways to spend $3,000 on your real estate business
12:22 #1: Prospecting for new leads
13:32 Wake up call for agents & the best use for that $3K to get more leads
16:11 #2: Nurturing relationships with clients
18:10 What to do if you don’t have past clients: buyer seminars
20:02 #3 Upgrading your tech
21:36 “This is the biggest racket I’ve heard in a long time.”
22:43 Left, Middle, Right: Biden’s test run reelection message in his State of the Union address
23:30 Get the transcript to hear what Biden says on housing, curbing inflation, jobs, etc.
27:00 Get your free copy of BAM’s new ebook: AI Tools for Real Estate Agents
#mortgagerates #homebuyers #realestatepodcast


