
People Business w/ O'Brien McMahon
Every business is in some way a “people business” with success or failure often coming down to how leaders manage the people dynamics of their organization. People Business is a weekly podcast focused on what it takes to build and lead a successful, profitable business by navigating the human element.
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Dec 6, 2022 • 56min
Developing Great Teams w/ Mike Goldman
Mike Goldman is an award-winning leadership team coach and the #1 Amazon bestselling author of two books, Breakthrough Leadership Team and Performance Breakthrough. In this conversation, Mike shares what it takes to build and lead a high-performing team. Mentioned in this Episode:Mike Goldman: Leadership Team Coach | Author | SpeakerMike Goldman’s Free Video CourseMike Goldman on LinkedInMike Goldman on TwitterMike Goldman on FacebookThe Five Dysfunctions of a Team by Patrick LencioniThe One Minute Manager by Ken BlanchardHow to Win Friends and Influence People by Dale CarnegieSimple Numbers, Straight Talk, Big Profits! by Greg CrabtreeTime Codes:(1:27) - How do you define what makes a good team?(3:02) - How important is the top leader?(4:51) - What is your assessment of the top leader when you walk into an organization?(9:27) - How do you coach clients who may not be lifelong learners?(14:59) - How can leaders or team members ensure that individuals are held accountable?(21:31) - What are the 6 pillars of a leadership team?(22:53) - What does Self-Leadership look like?(25:01) - Do you have any exercises to help people with their focus?(28:38) - What’s the balance of finding the right people for a team?(33:43) - Is setting and living out values part of the execution pillar?(40:31) - How do you think about team structure?(46:45) - Do you find that some teams need to cut down on size?(49:31) - What advice do you have for people onboarding to a new team?(52:05) - What is the purpose of business?

Nov 29, 2022 • 50min
Let Me Tell You a Story w/ Reena Kansal
Reena Kansal is a Story Facilitator and Chief Operating Officer at Leadership StoryLab, a training company that helps business professionals connect with their audience. Have you ever sat through a boring presentation? Or worse, have you ever given one where you could tell the audience was barely staying awake? If so, Reena can help. Mentioned in this Episode: Leadership Story LabLet the Story do the Work by Esther ChoyReen Kansal on LinkedInSmart Brevity by Jim VandeHeiGood Charts by Scott BerinatoThe TableTopics GameHarry Potter and the Sorcerer’s StoneStart with Why by Simon SinekMetaphor: As Simple As a Piece of VelcroThe Secret to Clarifying Complex IdeasTime Codes:(1:13) - What is Leadership Story Lab and what kind of work do you do?(2:20) - What was the catalyst that made storytelling sexy?(3:10) - How do you define Storytelling?(4:11) - What are the elements of Story that cause people to take action?(5:32) - What are the misconceptions that people have about Storytelling?(7:36) - What’s a better example you’ve seen of someone introducing themselves through a story?(9:59) - How should people think about Story length?(13:43) - What are the other important elements of a Story?(15:54) - What type of language should we be using in Story?(19:44) - Are there any other techniques to storytelling that listeners can add to their toolbox?(24:48) - How do you coach clients on word choice?(30:50) - How do we start practicing Storytelling?(38:14) - What surprises people the most as they begin this work?(39:52) - Do you see people overdoing it in the beginning?(42:05) - Do you have any exercises to help build metaphors and analogies?(42:57) - What are you sick of talking about?(43:26) - What do you get most excited about in your work?(47:17) - Where can people find and engage with you?

Nov 15, 2022 • 59min
Life A.F. w/ Kay Allison
Kay Allison has been living alcohol-free since 1999. In that time, through her company Juicy A.F., she has helped hundreds of women face their struggles with alcohol and come out the other side living amazing lives. Alcohol dominates our social functions at work, from happy hours to holiday parties. For those who feel like they might need help curbing their drinking, no matter the reason and with no need for labels, Kay is here to help. Mentioned in this Episode: Kay Allison on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/kayallison1/Juicy AF - https://juicy-af.mn.co/10 Ways to get in Flow rather than Fear - https://juicyaf.life/flow/Discipline Equals Freedom by Jocko Willink - https://www.amazon.com/Discipline-Equals-Freedom-Field-Manual/dp/1250156947What Alcohol Does to Your Body, Brain & Health | Episode 86 of Huberman Lab - https://open.spotify.com/episode/2ebY3WNejLNbK47emgjd1E?si=ukKjlgaQTc6n7M8hNLdz6gThe War of Art by Steven Pressfield - http://bit.ly/3WWtTmDPeople Business Episode w/ Chet Scott - https://peoplebusinesspodcast.com/chetscott/Atomic Habits by James Clear - http://bit.ly/3tsLYLGTime Codes: (2:57) - What is Juicy AF and how did it come to be?(4:39) - What was it for you that made you give yourself an honest assessment about your drinking?(7:31) - Had you done any reflective work leading up to this realization that you wanted to get sober?(12:03) - What does it mean to be an alcoholic?(13:48) - What are the ways to approach someone you think has an issue with drinking?(17:23) - What trends are you seeing as far as alcohol consumption goes?(19:45) - How do you help people get rid of the excuses they give themselves to continue drinking?(24:58) - What are the effects of alcohol on the body?(29:38) - How does Juicy AF help people through the anxiety of wanting to quit drinking?(34:54) - What are the ways you see companies starting to minimize alcohol in their social events?(37:21) - How do you help clients step out of their comfort zones in social activities?(40:37) - Are there any other hang ups for people wanting to experiment with being alcohol-free?(47:16) - How do you coach clients to get to a place of more abundance and acceptance?(55:55) - Where can people find you and your program?(56:43) - Where would you direct men who are interested in this?

Nov 8, 2022 • 28min
Create Your Own Secret Society w/ Michael F Schein
Michael F. Schein returns to the podcast to talk about his experience building a "secret society", a term from his book The Hype Handbook: 12 Indispensable Success Secrets From the World’s Greatest Propagandists, Self-Promoters, Cult Leaders, Mischief Makers, and Boundary Breakers. Michael shares practical advice everyday people can use to build a network that works for them, elevating their status and increasing their odds of success.Mentioned in this Episode: Michael on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelfrancisschein/Michael’s first appearance on People Business - https://peoplebusinesspodcast.com/michaelfschein/The Hype Handbook by Michael F. Schein - https://www.amazon.com/Hype-Handbook-Indispensable-Propagandists-Self-Promoters/dp/126047013XMicroFame Media - https://microfamemedia.com/Time Codes:(2:01) - Creating secret societies.(8:48) - How can the average person start to gain access to powerful people?(16:09) - Finding people who are incredibly smart, but are not the folks everyone thinks to contact.

Nov 1, 2022 • 59min
Harnessing Randomness & Innovation w/ Frans Johannson
Frans Johansson has inspired readers and audiences worldwide with his ideas on leadership and success, diversity, and innovation. He is the Founder and CEO of The Medici Group, an enterprise solutions firm that empowers organizations to leverage diversity and inclusion to build and sustain high-performing teams. Frans is also the author of two books – “The Medici Effect” and “The Click Moment” – the former of which has been translated into 21 different languages and has become the definitive book on how diversity and inclusion drive innovation. Raised in Sweden by his African-American/Cherokee mother and Swedish father, Johansson has lived all his life at the intersection. Mentioned in this Episode:ViaRenaissance.io - https://www.viarenaissance.io/Frans on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/fransjohansson/Frans on Twitter - https://twitter.com/Frans_JohanssonThe Medici Effect by Frans Johansson - https://www.amazon.com/Medici-Effect-Elephants-Epidemics-Innovation/dp/1422102823/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=The Click Moment by Frans Johansson - https://www.amazon.com/Click-Moment-Seizing-Opportunity-Unpredictable/dp/1591846838/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1666730987&sr=1-1Topics:(2:47) - Can you reconcile your statement that success is random as well as saying the harder you work the more successful you become?(9:32) - How should we think about randomness so that we can use it to our advantage?(14:25) - How do you advise people to get comfortable with potentially “killing your darlings”?(19:16) - How did you get turned on Medici?(23:07) - How do you help others think about creating intersections for themselves?(26:50) - How do people practice this in a way that it becomes a habit?(35:13) - Is it better to follow things that are interesting to you, or distill down the principles of what your looking for in order to find things that may be cross-functional?(41:49) - How do you encourage organizations to have conversations around innovation and change?(52:31) - Where do groups get the most stuck when doing this work?(55:44) - What is your favorite intersection story?(57:17) - Where can people find you online?

Oct 25, 2022 • 57min
We Are All Biased w/ Michele Ruiz
Michele Ruiz is an entrepreneur, award-winning broadcast journalist, author, public speaker, and former Los Angeles news anchor for KNBC-TV. She is co-founder and CEO of BiasSync, a SaaS technology company that helps organizations identify and eliminate biases in the workplace. Mentioned in this Episode: Michele Ruiz on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/micheleruiz1/BiasSync - https://biassync.com/Ruiz Strategies - https://www.ruizstrategies.com/Black couple ‘Whitewashes’ home during Appraisal - https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/12/06/black-couple-home-value-white-washing/ Podcast Movement Issues Apology over Ben Shapiro Appearance - https://www.dallasnews.com/arts-entertainment/2022/08/25/podcast-movement-apologizes-for-ben-shapiros-presence-at-its-dallas-convention/Time Codes:(3:00) - What is BiasSync?(7:13) - What do you say to people who may get a bit defensive when talking about biases and stereotypes?(17:15) - Can you speak to the concept of ingroup vs. outgroup bias?(24:04) - Are we trying to get rid of our biases altogether or are we just trying to manage them?(34:27) - How do you see political bias showing up in the workplace?(39:25) - Is there a balance to a true microaggression and someone being overly sensitive?(47:25) - What else can organizations be doing to help facilitate conversations around political biases in the workplace?(50:48) - What are you sick of talking about when it comes to bias?(51:15) - Is there anything you see people getting continually wrong in your world?(52:38) - What are you most excited to be talking about?(54:05) - What is the purpose of business?(54:41) - Do you have any final comments?

Oct 18, 2022 • 59min
Scaling Successfully w/ Andrew Bartlow
Andrew Bartlow leads Series B Consulting, through which he helps businesses articulate their people strategy, accelerate their growth, and navigate rapid change. Additionally, he founded the People Leader Accelerator, the preeminent development program for startup HR leaders. He is also the co-author of Scaling for Success: People Priorities for High-Growth Organizations. Andrew has 25 years of Human Resources and Talent Management experience at organizations across various sizes, maturity stages, and industries. Episode Links: Andrew Bartlow on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/bartlow/People Leader Accelerator - https://www.peopleleaderaccelerator.com/Scaling for Success by Andrew Bartlow - https://amzn.to/3ez4bmHSeries B Consulting - https://www.seriesbconsulting.com/Harvard Business Review: Evolution & Revolution as Organizations Grow by Larry Greiner - https://hbr.org/1998/05/evolution-and-revolution-as-organizations-growDunbar’s number - https://bit.ly/3MD8dHjPatrick Lencioni Books - https://www.tablegroup.com/books/Mathison Diversity Recruiting - https://www.mathison.io/Humu - https://www.humu.com/Time Codes:(1:50) - How did you get into your line of work?(3:21) - What are the different Organizational Structures you see and how do you advise folks on which is the best fit for them? (8:05) - Do you have examples of problems being solved that end up creating problems further down the road?(13:37) - Total Chaos vs. Total OKR.(16:52) - What are some best practices from a human capital standpoint to celebrate team members who transition out of an organization?(22:36) - What are Spans and Layers?(26:09) - Is there a ‘max’ for Span?(27:29) - How do you advise companies to think about The Power of 150?(31:40) - How often do you see strong leadership teams pausing to assess the business?(35:09) - When it comes to defining roles do you see any best practices being used?(42:25) - What makes a good hiring process?(44:20) - How are you seeing organizations broaden the pipeline in which they’re getting candidates?(46:52) - “We learn best when we learn less.”(49:00) - Where do you see the best and worst ROI from Learning and Development initiatives?(56:09) - What is the purpose of business?(57:41) - How can people get in contact with you?

Oct 11, 2022 • 1h 3min
Influencing Those Around You w/ Melina Palmer
Melina Palmer is an applied behavioral economist with a passion for helping leaders understand what behavioral economics is and how it can be applied to help the world communicate more effectively. Her award-winning podcast, Brainy Business, has downloads in over 170 countries and she teaches applied behavioral economics through the Human Behavior Lab at Texas A&M University. She has written two books, including the newly released WhatYour Employees Needs and Can't Tell You: Adapting to Change with the Science of Behavioral Economics. Links:The Brainy Business: https://thebrainybusiness.com/The Brainy Business Podcast: https://thebrainybusiness.com/podcast/Melina on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/melinapalmer/Thebrainybusiness.com/PeopleBusinessWhat Your Employees Need and Can’t Tell You by Melina Palmer: https://thebrainybusiness.com/free-chapters/A More Beautiful Question by Warren Berger: https://www.amazon.com/More-Beautiful-Question-Inquiry-Breakthrough/dp/1632861054/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter by Seth Grahame-Smith: https://www.amazon.com/Abraham-Lincoln-Vampire-Seth-Grahame-Smith/dp/0446563072/ref=sr_1_1?crid=24V8P7904Q21D&keywords=Abraham+Lincoln%3A+Vampire+Hunter&qid=1664734068&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIyLjAxIiwicXNhIjoiMC44MiIsInFzcCI6IjAuNTcifQ%3D%3D&s=books&sprefix=abraham+lincoln+vampire+hunter%2Cstripbooks%2C68&sr=1-1Nudge by Richard Thaler: https://www.amazon.com/Nudge-Final-Richard-H-Thaler/dp/014313700X/ref=sr_1_1?crid=KKY4T34YR6KX&keywords=Nudge&qid=1664734107&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIyLjY0IiwicXNhIjoiMi4xNyIsInFzcCI6IjIuMzMifQ%3D%3D&s=books&sprefix=nudge%2Cstripbooks%2C76&sr=1-1Never Split the Difference by Chris Voss: https://www.amazon.com/Never-Split-Difference-Negotiating-Depended/dp/0062407805Time Codes:(2:29) - What is behavioral economics and how did you come to work in this industry?(11:28) - How do you see companies using B.E. and where are we in the adoption curve?(14:57) - How do you think about Design Thinking in relation to B.E.?(19:27) - Why did you base your book on change?(24:42)- How people respond to change and a conversation on biases.(40:30) - What do you see as the most common mistakes employers are making when helping their teams through change?(45:02) - Are successful companies helping their teams create better habits in some way?(54:06) - “The Accusation Audit”(58:30) - What are you sick of talking about?(1:00:14) - What are you most excited to be talking about?(1:01:14) - What is the purpose of business?

Oct 4, 2022 • 51min
How We Learn w/ Teri Hart
What do you mean learning styles aren't real? Teri Hart is a corporate learning executive with 25+ years of experience in learning and development at top companies. She is also the author of Hardwired to Learn: Leveraging the Self-Sustaining Power of Lifelong Learning. In this conversation, Teri dispels myths about how people learn and shares practical ways individuals can learn better and companies can better educate their people. Links:Teri Hart on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/terihart/Hardwired to Learn by Teri Hart: https://www.amazon.com/Hardwired-Learn-Leveraging-Self-sustaining-Lifelong/dp/0578300079/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=Time Codes:(1:46) - What does it mean to be a lifelong learner?(3:36) - What portion of the population that you see are proactive in learning?(6:28) - What are some of the most common myths surrounding learning?(9:29) - What do you mean that there are no learning styles?(13:07) - How much of the sentiment that we stop learning as adults are just us not wanting to look stupid, or do something hard?(18:45) - How do you cultivate a culture of curiosity and vulnerability?(22:04) - How do you coach people to recognize they’ve been closed off? Is it possible to spark their intrinsic motivation?(28:59) - What is the process for learning? (34:56) - How would you define someone’s purpose?(40:19) - What are some learning hacks that you’ve developed?

Sep 27, 2022 • 48min
Using AI at Work w/ Kavita Ganesan
Kavita Ganesan is the founder of Opinosis Analytics and an AI strategist, educator, and consultant. The author of A Business Case for AI, Kavita educates and advises businesses of all sizes, from Fortune 500 to small businesses, on better ways to utilize artificial intelligence in their work. Links:Kavita on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kavita-ganesan/ Kavita's Website: https://kavita-ganesan.com/Opinosis Analytics: https://www.opinosis-analytics.com/Book: A Business Case for AI by Kavita Ganesan: https://kavita-ganesan.com/the-business-case-for-ai/Grammarly: https://www.grammarly.com/One Shot Learning: https://bdtechtalks.com/2020/08/12/what-is-one-shot-learning/Turing Test: https://www.techtarget.com/searchenterpriseai/definition/Turing-testThe Good Place: The Trolley Problem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtRhrfhP5b4Topics:(1:50) - How do you define Artificial Intelligence?(3:51) - What is the goal of AI?(4:39) - Where are we today with what AI can and cannot do?(6:32) - Where do you see businesses begin to implement AI?(10:13) - Is it reasonable to fear that AI will automate out people’s jobs? (12:20) - How are the best companies upskilling their employees now that they have more time for productivity?(15:08) - What mistakes do companies make when implementing AI?(17:04) - How do you monitor and test programs?(18:12) - How do you advise companies on potential biases within AI code?(21:55) - How difficult is it to implement AI into a workflow?(25:36) - Do you see AI systems being used for external or internal use?(26:21) - Who do you see owning AI decisions?(27:28) - What are the costs of creating an AI system for a company?(29:45) - How did you get into the AI space?(32:13) - What’s being built today that we will see in the next 15 years?(36:34) - How do you feel about machines becoming as intelligent as humans?(38:37) - How do you see companies dealing with the ethical challenges of AI?(42:26) - What are you sick of talking about?(43:46) - What are you most excited about?(44:30) - What is the purpose of business?(45:54) - Where can people find you?