

Neurodiverse Love with Mona Kay
Neurodiverse Love with Mona Kay
Join Mona Kay as she focuses on increasing understanding of the strengths, differences, and challenges in mixed neurotype relationships. Whether you're autistic, neurotypical or allistic, this podcast is for you! Knowing how your neurology may impact your communication style, emotional and social needs, processing speeds, sensory needs and sexual and physical intimacy desires is critical, especially in your romantic relationships. Listen in and learn about other's lived experiences, lessons learned, and strategies for understanding how neurological differences can impact your relationship.
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Jan 28, 2025 • 60min
Disconnected: Portrait of a Neurodiverse Marriage-Eleanor Vincent
During this episode, author Eleanor Vincent shares some of the ups and downs she and her ex-husband experienced in their neurodiverse relationship. More specifically she addresses:
The 1st break-up, years of friendship, reuniting and then marriage;
How things changed when they moved in together;
Masking and unmasking;
Challenges with emotional reciprocity;
Using love scripts;
Communication challenges;
Short-term improvements, but not long term and consistent;
Meltdowns and shutdowns;
The impact of COVID;
Health challenges;
Change in physical and sexual Intimacy;
Patterns in an neurodiverse relationship;
Unmet needs;
Deciding to end the relationship and having no contact;
Being part of “The Lost Generation”
You can learn more about Eleanor's story in her new book: "Disconnected: Portrait of a Neurodiverse Marriage"
In addition, you can contact Eleanor at: www.eleanorvincent.com or contact Mona at: www.neurodiverselove.com

Jan 21, 2025 • 53min
Finding Stability, Giving Grace and Reducing Neurotoxins In Your Relationship-Roianne Ahn
During this episode, Dr. Roianne Ahn shares some of the things she has learned through her lived experiences and in her 30 years as a therapist, coach, and researcher.
She addresses ways in which we can better understand our wounded neural pathways (and those of our partner) and give each other grace. She shares the importance of finding your North Star as a couple and how neurotoxins may be impacting you as you and your partner react to stress through a flight or fight response.
Dr. Ahn also talks about the importace of accessing your joy individually and as a couple and the value of managing a separation or divorce with grace.
You can learn about Roiann's therpay and coaching practice at www.ahnpsychology.com or you can email her at ahn@ahnpsychology.com

Jan 14, 2025 • 52min
Culture and Communication Differences in Neurodiverse Relationships- Misty Schmidt
During this episode, Misty Schmidt, LMFT shares how she navigates the communication and culture differences in her neurodivergent family and with her neurodivergent clients. She addresses the importance of having a therapist/coach who can translate the different types of communication and understanding that one partner may be very literal/concrete and the other may be more abstract.
Misty also talks about the research she is conducting for her disseration. She is focusing on the dyamics between romantic partners who are both neurodivergent. She is also writing a book about navigating neurodiversity, which will include a variety of worksheets and tools including the "meltdown scale".
Misty also addresses the impact of living with an incorrect diagnosis and how important it is for therapists/counselors to have training regarding neurodivergent adults, as some challenges may be identified as part of a personality disorder or trauma, however they may actually be related to neurodivergence.
Unfortunately, some therapists may not understand or recognize neurovariance, sensory sensitivities and executive function differences and may think they are a trauma response and not consider neurodivergence. Explaining your internal world to a neuroaffirming therapist can help them determine what issues may be due to trauma and which may be due to neurodivergence.
Misty also talks about Pre-Menstrual Dysphoric Disorder (PMDD) and how this may look for a neurodivergent individual and the importance of understanding it and recognizing what can be done to help reduce the impact.
You can contact Misty at: www.schmidtfamilycounseling.com
If you are looking for a neurodivergent therapist you can check out this site: https://neurodivergentinsights.com/ndi-directory
In addition, if you would like to work with a coach or therapist who has expertise working with neurodiverse couples you can check out Mona's website

Jan 7, 2025 • 1h 12min
Understanding the Impact of PDA "Persistent Drive for Autonomy" in Your Relationship-Toni Borneo
During this episode, Toni Borneo, a late discovered Autistic who is also the host of the "Autistic at 40" podcast shares what she has learned about Persistent Drive for Autonomy (aka Pathological Demand Avoidance).
More specifically we address the following:
Learn how this is a heightened stress reaction to anything that is out of the person's control
There is a strong desire for autonomy over "what, when and how" and being addicted to finding ways to maintain control
Why your partner may say "no" often
Fight, flight, freeze response from threats or "perceived" threats
The impact of "internalized" PDA
Masked PDA and issues around trust
Shame around PDA and secretive or sneaky behavior
Creating a no-judgment zone
The impact on executive function skills
Your body may be in hyperarousal all the time
How to get your autonomy back through equalizing with acts that are safe, boundaried and not damaging to your relationship
Reframing requests and sharing declarative statements, rather than asking questions
You can follow Toni on IG @autistic_at_40_podcast
You can also listen to her podcast "Autistic at 40" or learn more about her on-line free space at Autisthood.
If you would like to learn more about the resources Mona has available you can check out her website . If you would like to buy the digital version of the Neurodiverse Love Conversation Cards or the Workbook click here.

Dec 3, 2024 • 38min
Sex and Burnout in ND Relationships-Carole Jean Whittington
To learn more about the Neurodivere Love Conversation Cards and Workbook, the Neurodiverse Love Conference videos and the other resources available for individuals or couples in mixed neurotype relationships, check out Neurodiverse Love._________________________________________________
Sex has a language all its own, and it is both spoken and unspoken. Sex with our partner and with ourselves can be fun, invigorating, a great way to unwind, how we connect to our body and to our partner.
When one or both partners are experiencing ND Burnout, sex can be overwhelming or require more energy than we have along with a few other hidden elements. When we don't know to look for some of these hidden elements in our relationship and sex life, the story we tell ourselves about why sex isn't happening like it used to, or how we aren't enjoying it the way we once did, can create a cassum between partners, along with feelings of rejection, guilt, shame and unwant.
Those reasons just aren't the case when ND Burnout is a factor and during this episode Carole Jean Whittington shares:
What ND Burnout is.
How it can look from the outside.
What it feels like on the inside.
The hidden elements of ND Burnout that impact our sex and relationship.
First step in Burnout Restoration to restart your sex life.
You can learn more about Carol Jean Whittington's book, YouTube channel, podcast and the many other resources she has available at: www.whittingtonwellbeing.com

Nov 26, 2024 • 30min
Bridging the Gap: Advancing Awareness and Understanding of Neurodiverse Relationships-Bronwyn Wilson
To learn more about the Neurodivere Love Conversation Cards and Workbook, the Neurodiverse Love Conference videos and the other resources available for individuals or couples in mixed neurotype relationships, check out Neurodiverse Love.
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Dr. Bronwyn Wilson provides information on some of the significant discoveries that she made during her research. She reveals how different needs for interaction between two groups of people in neurodiverse relationships creates an unconventional relationship which introduces unique challenges for the people involved. She describes how these different needs and resulting challenges are linked to the development of an ongoing dynamic system of communication that often becomes a specific feature in these relationships. She also give details on the particular strategies that she uncovered for the potential positive outcomes in neurodiverse relationships.
To learn more about Dr. Bron's research or her books you can click here.

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Nov 19, 2024 • 34min
Negotiating Sex in a Neurodiverse Relationship-Lawrence Siegel
To learn more about the Neurodivere Love Conversation Cards and Workbook, the Neurodiverse Love Conference videos and the other resources available for individuals or couples in mixed neurotype relationships, check out Neurodiverse Love.____________________________________________
Neurodiverse relationships can sometimes be difficult to navigate, but if we have clear ways to both communicate and understand each other, it can be easier and more gratifying. During this episode, Lawrence Siegel, MA, CSE explores some of the things we can do to communicate more effectively about our sexual and intimate needs. Things like understanding nonverbal expression and creating shared experiences of physical pleasure, using code words to communicate in the moment, and learning how to accept our partner's lack of desire without feeling personally rejected. Hopefully, the information shared will help partners relate to how they see some of the important foundations of creating a succesful, sexually rewarding relationship.
You can contact Lawrence Siegel at the Sage Institute for Family Development or at the Modern Institutes for Sex Therapy Training

Nov 12, 2024 • 36min
Calm in Conflict-Robin Tate
To learn more about the Neurodivere Love Conversation Cards and Workbook, the Neurodiverse Love Conference videos and the other resources available for individuals or couples in mixed neurotype relationships, check out Neurodiverse Love.
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In working with Neurodiverse individuals and couples it's apparent that teaching about diverse perspectives and providing a structure for solving conflict is not enough to overcome the common neurological differences. Co-creating strategies for each person to identify, regulate and communicate about their own emotional state is essential to the success of the dynamic. In a relationship, staying calm involves self-regulation, as well as co-regulation. In this episode, Robin Tate will define each of these terms. She will also talk about the potential barriers to self-regulation and strategies that help each person, as well as the team, stay calm as they work through conflict to achieve greater connection, understanding and agreement.
You can contact Robin Tate, MA, MS at: www.robintatellc.com or at robintatellc@gmail.com

Nov 5, 2024 • 28min
Adventures in Neurodiverse Parenting-Kate and Clark Webb
Kate Webb is a neurotypical partner in a neurodiverse marriage, while Clark Webb is neurodivergent with an ASD diagnosis. They share their parenting journey, tackling the daily struggles of raising two daughters with their contrasting styles. From humorous anecdotes about chaos in their household to candid discussions on mental health, they explore their strengths and challenges. They emphasize the vital role of support and community, proving that navigating parenthood is about surviving one day at a time.

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Oct 29, 2024 • 25min
Addressing Sex and Intimacy in Neurodiverse Couple Therapy-Leslie Sickels
To learn more about the Neurodivere Love Conversation Cards and Workbook, the Neurodiverse Love Conference videos and the other resources available for individuals or couples in mixed neurotype relationships, check out Neurodiverse Love.
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During this episode, Leslie Sickels, LCSW discusses how intimacy and sex are healthy, natural aspects of human relationships, yet this topic often goes unaddressed in neurodiverse couples therapy. While difficulties a nd challenges related to intimate connections are not unique to neurodiverse couples, there are core areas of neurodiversity that frequently arise and can be effectively identified, addressed, and managed in neurodiverse couples therapy. Leslie aims to normalize challenges related to intimacy and sex in neurodiverse partnerships and assist couples in identifying strategies to begin speaking more opening about these areas in couuples therapy.
You can contact Leslie Sickels at LeslieSickelsLCSW.com or at LeslieSickelsLCSW@gmail.com