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Neurodiverse Love with Mona Kay

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Apr 25, 2023 • 1h 9min

"It Could Have Looked So Different"...How an Autism Diagnosis is Changing Their Marriage-with Shawna and Kevin Meek

During this episode, Shawna and Kevin Meek talk about how different their marriage, and their lives, could have been if they had known Kevin was autistic 20+ years ago. Kevin received his autism diagnosis less then 6 months ago, at the age of 50. Since that time, he and Shawna have worked together to learn how they can thrive individually and as a neurodiverse couple, and they share how different their relationship may have been if they had known earlier that Kevin is autistic. They both share openly and with tremendous vulnerability to help other neurodiverse couples know they are not alone and that there is hope. More specifically they address the following topics: The differences since the autism diagnosis. Accepting the inconsistencies and knowing unmasking is welcome. Not knowing the "why" of so many things in your life when their is unknown autism. The damage caused before the autism diagnosis. Being unfaithful and going through the trauma of betrayal and the healing process. The fight to be normal and how this can lead to overwhelm. Not knowing if certain behaviors were intentional or not. How lying is a form of "self protection" and negatively impacted their relationship. What led to a formal diagnosis. When one partner sees the other as the "enemy". Not understanding the true definition of abuse and how covert abuse impacted their marriage. Being critical when the environment led to overstimulation. Mis-attunement to a partners needs. Acknowledging they are both on the same team. Setting boundaries for unacceptable behavior. Knowing there is hope! Some helpful tools include weekly check-ins, code words and using a white board to share ideas and information. Acknowledging brain reactions versus behavioral responses. Limiting "abstract" words in conversation. Having grace as each partner learns more about themselves and the ways to make the relationship thrive. The importance of "giving back" by helping others who are in recovery and/or in neurodiverse relationships. I am very thankful to Shawna and Kevin for sharing their story on the Neurodiverse Love podcast. Although "unknown neurodiversity" led to a lot of "unintentional" hurt, pain and trauma in their marriage, they are both on a path to live their best lives as individuals and as a couple and want to help others do the same. If you would like to contact Shawna or Kevin Meek you can send an email to: Shawna@livingstonescoaching.com or visit Shawna's website at: www.livingstonescoaching.com ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ If you are interested in learning more about the support groups that Mona offers for neurotypical/non-autistic partners or neurodiverse couples, please send her an email at: neurodiverselove4u@gmail.com. or visit her website at: www.neurodiverselove.com Follow Mona on Instagram @neurodiverse_love or click here to sign up for the Neurodiverse Love Newsletter. Also, if you are interested in buying a deck of the Neurodiverse Love Conversation Cards, the digital deck is now available for $11.  Click here to buy your deck today. Lastly, if you missed the Neurodiverse Love Conference you can still buy a ticket for $98 to listen to the 27 AMAZING  pre-recorded conference sessions. Click here to buy your ticket today.  Presentations will be available to watch until May 15, 2023 Thanks for being a part of the Neurodiverse Love Community!
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Apr 18, 2023 • 57min

The Language of Affection and How Alexythymia Can Lead to a Collision of Needs- with Guest Co-host Bronwyn Wilson

During this episode, guest co-host Bronwyn Wilson shares more about her seminal research with neurodiverse couples. In addition, we provide an in-depth look at how alexythymia and having different emotional needs may be impacting your understanding of your partner. So many misunderstandings can occur when one or both partners don't understand what they are feeling, or the emotions they may be experiencing. This can be an ongoing challenge for neurodiverse couples, so during this episode we talk about the ways in which this can lead to "a collision of needs" and how beneficial it can be when both partners gain a better understanding of their needs and determine which emotional needs can be met in the relationship and which can't. This clarity can help reduce judgment, anger and conflict. If you and your partner experience challenges discussing emotional issues, or if you have difficulty communicating or understanding your emotions and feelings, this episode may provide some insight that can help both partners connect with more grace and compassion. If you want to contact Bron, or order a copy of her book, check out her website at: www.bronwilson.com. You can also buy her e-book on Amazon. __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ If you are interested in learning more about the support groups that Mona offers for neurotypical/non-autistic partners or neurodiverse couples, please send her an email at: neurodiverselove4u@gmail.com. or visit her website at: www.neurodiverselove.com Follow Mona on Instagram @neurodiverse_love or click here to sign up for the Neurodiverse Love Newsletter. Also, if you are interested in buying a deck of the Neurodiverse Love Conversation Cards, the digital deck is now available for $11.  Click here to buy your deck today. Lastly, if you missed the Neurodiverse Love Conference you can still buy a ticket for $98 to listen to the 27 AMAZING  pre-recorded conference sessions. Click here to buy your ticket today.  Presentations will be available to watch until May 15, 2023 Thanks for being a part of the Neurodiverse Love Community!
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Apr 11, 2023 • 53min

Thriving Beyond Cassandra and Ongoing Traumatic Relationship Syndrome --Lisa Anzaldua

During this episode with therapist and coach, Lisa Anzaldua, we talk about ways in which the neurotypical/non-autistic partner can heal and thrive after experiencing "unknown neurodiversity" and Ongoing Traumatic Relationship Syndrome aka: Cassandra Syndrome. We address the ways in which Lisa helps others heal through her support groups, therapy and coaching. The topics discussed include the following: Establishing emotional safety within a group, or some other container to establish a sense of belonging and be validated. The importance of knowing you're not alone. The process for healing anger, resentment and confusion. Empowerment and "Post Traumatic Growth". Understanding attachment trauma. Focusing on your highest good and deepest well-being. Dissipating shame. How emotional micro-traumas occur when you're not believed. Being bonded and attached to your partner while a lot of energy is used to keep the peace. Questioning your reality. Unresolved issues and gaining clarity of patterns and ourselves. Understanding where our anger is coming from and resolving the shame around the anger. Triggers are windows of opportunity and mirrors of our needs. Our relationships can also be mirrors of what needs to be healed. Challenges establishing healthy boundaries and how understanding your needs can help with boundaries. How your adaptative parts have protected your vulnerable parts. Exploring early life issues using Internal Family Systems (IFS). The protective parts (managers and firefighters) in IFS Paradox of hope. Is hope the source of our suffering or is helping us determine what is possible? Radical acceptance and strengthening our core selves. Re-establishing a strong sense of self and truth. Understanding the values and core beliefs of your highest self. You can contact Lisa through her website at: www.thrivingbeyondcassandrasyndrome.com to schedule a free consultation with her for some additional guidance. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ If you are interested in learning more about the support groups that Mona offers for neurotypical/non-autistic partners or neurodiverse couples, please send her an email at: neurodiverselove4u@gmail.com. or visit her website at: www.neurodiverselove.com. You can also follow her on Instagram @neurodiverse_love If you are interested in buying a deck of the Neurodiverse Love Conversation Cards, the digital deck is now available for $11.  Click here to buy your deck today. Lastly, if you missed the Neurodiverse Love Conference you can still buy a ticket for $98 to listen to the 27  AMAZING  pre-recorded conference sessions. Click here to buy access to the conference sessions today.   Thanks for being a part of the Neurodiverse Love Community!
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Apr 4, 2023 • 1h

Knowing Yourself, Fear of Self-Identity, and Accepting Differences in Others-with Guest Co-host Greg Fuqua

We recorded this episode on March 31, 2023, which was International Transgender Visibility Day. During this episode, we talk about how differences in identity can be used as a way to divide people through fear. Whether you are neurodivergent, LGBTQ+, or different in some other way that some people may not understand, we hope you will find this episode enlightening and inspiring. According to the ACLU, there are over 400 Anti-LGBTQ+ bills that have been introduced in more then 40 states in the United States. Unfortunately, when people respond to differences with anger and judgment, it can lead to so much shame and emotional pain. Hurt people, hurt people, but healing is possible when we look at differences through an open heart and a lens of curiosity. The Neurodiverse Love podcast is about partnering with others to increase understanding of the strengths, differences and challenges in neurodiverse relationships and we hope this episode brings some insight and understanding into how we can all be more accepting of others. Greg talks a little about his trans-son's 5 year journey and shares a very powerful quote from Audre Lorde. In addition, the other topics we address are: How some people respond to differences and misunderstanding. Feelings and responses we may have in our neurodiverse relationships. How do we create deeper closeness, connection. safety, and calm? Self-care and self-love is an act of self preservation and political defiance. The impact of denying your identity. Understanding connections and disconnections to your body. The emotional, physical and spiritual pain of becoming your authentic self. We all want to be seen, heard, understood, cared for and loved. Owning your own feelings, struggles and reflections. Being self-aware and understanding your needs. Having positive assumptions and curiosity around the struggles in our relationships. What are you not willing to face in your relationship that may lead to being triggered? Stepping into your discomfort. Look inside, rather then externalizing your needs. Giving your partner space and understanding they still love you even when they aren't attuning or connecting. The internal experience of the autistic. Our thinking becomes our reality and we tell ourselves stories that aren't true. The importance and value of "connective energy" and collaboration. Trusting yourself and your relationship with yourself. Deepening connection to your "parts" and self-knowledge. The importance of telling yourself that you are "good" to counterbalance disempowerment. Sometimes it is hard to have healing conversations, but they are SO important! If you would like to contact Greg you can check out his website at: www.GregFuqua.com or contact him at www.LifeWorksDM.com.  You can also check out his profile on Psychology Today. ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ If you are interested in learning more about the support groups that Mona offers for neurotypical/non-autistic partners or neurodiverse couples, please send her  an email at: neurodiverselove4u@gmail.com. or visit her website at: www.neurodiverselove.com. You can also follow her on Instagram @neurodiverse_love If you are interested in buying a deck of the Neurodiverse Love Conversation Cards, the digital deck is now available for $11.  Click here to buy your deck today. Lastly, if you missed the Neurodiverse Love Conference you can still buy a ticket for $98 to listen to the 27  AMAZING  pre-recorded conference sessions. Click here to buy your ticket today.  Presentations will be available to watch until May 15, 2023 Thanks for being a part of the Neurodiverse Love Community!
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Mar 28, 2023 • 56min

The Role of "Unknown" Neurodiversity in Reprocessing Family Memories and How This Can Impact Your Romantic Relationships-Guest Co-host-Nicole Knowlton

During this episode, Mona and her guest co-host Nicole Knowlton share how "unknown" autism and neurodiversity impacted the relationships they had with their neurodivergent father's (and other members of their families). In addition, they address how the issues in their "family of origin" impacted their relationships with their ex-husbands. The other topics addressed include: How reprocessing memories and past hurts makes it easier to have peace. Reparenting yourself and forgiving your parents. The value of understanding challenges with emotional intimacy through a neurodivergent lens. Understanding the addictions that family members may have had to help them cope with "unknown" neurodiversity. Learning how to accept and forgive, and focusing on healing, can help lighten our hearts. Misunderstanding communication styles during family gatherings and the possible impact of sensory sensitivities, emotional overload or socializing differences. How masking by family members can begin to make sense. Gaining better understanding of controlling behaviors or emotional abuse. Holding on to anger, resentment and judgement can increase ongoing suffering. The value of healing and identifying your stress responses. Having safe conversations about neurodiversity may create challenges, because of stereotypes and pathologizing. The need to create boundaries and share non-negotiables, even when family members don't want to accept or acknowledge neurodiversity. The importance of articulating how it makes you feel when a parent/family member communicates in an "unintentionally" hurtful way. Why some partners or family members may fawn/people-please or shutdown. The importance of better communication, expressing your needs, self-awareness, and being willing to work beyond the discomfort. The importance of family members educating themselves about autism and neurodiversity. Mona and Nicole end this episode with a few of the lessons they have learned on their journey to reprocess family memories and understand how their "family of origin" impacted their marriages. You can contact Nicole Knowlton at: NicoleMKnowlton@gmail.com or follow her on Twitter or Instagram @aspietherapist __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ If you are interested in learning more about the support groups that Mona offers for neurotypical/non-autistic partners or neurodiverse couples, please send her an email at: neurodiverselove4u@gmail.com. or visit her website at: www.neurodiverselove.com Follow Mona on Instagram @neurodiverse_love or ⁠click here⁠ to sign up for the Neurodiverse Love Newsletter. Also, if you are interested in buying a deck of the Neurodiverse Love Conversation Cards, the digital deck is now available for $11.  ⁠Click here⁠ to buy your deck today. Lastly, if you missed the Neurodiverse Love Conference you can still buy a ticket for $98 to listen to the 27 AMAZING  pre-recorded conference sessions. ⁠Click here⁠ to buy your ticket today.  Presentations will be available to watch until May 15, 2023 Thanks for being a part of the Neurodiverse Love Community!
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Mar 21, 2023 • 57min

Masking and Camouflaging and Changes That Can Impact Your Relationship-Guest Co-Host Bronwyn Wilson

During this episode, Mona is joined by her guest co-host, Dr. Bronwyn Wilson. Together, they share information about masking and camouflaging from the neurotypical/non-autistic perspective. Some of the topics addressed include: What masking looked like in our families and relationships. How unknown neurodiversity impacts masking and camouflaging. Masking to avoid conflict and as a coping mechanism. Camouflaging or masking with others, but not at home. How the mask comes off when a relationship moves to a deeper level. The disconnect "behind closed doors" and what others see outside the relationship. Masking when you don't know the answer or you don’t want to get it wrong. Working "with" your partner to "work out" the challenges with masking. The importance of having the intrinsic motivation to change. The 3 things that can make change possible. Increased knowledge and understanding can lead to making informed decisions. Are women better at camouflaging because they want to fit in more? Masking is exhausting and can contribute to fear and anxiety. The impact of un-masking quickly. Understanding the importance of down time to unmask and re-charge. When you understand and accept each other's differences the mask can come off. If you want to contact Bron, or order a copy of her book, check out her website at: www.bronwilson.com. You can also buy her e-book on Amazon. __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ If you are interested in learning more about the support groups that Mona offers for neurotypical/non-autistic partners or neurodiverse couples, please send her an email at: neurodiverselove4u@gmail.com. or visit her website at: www.neurodiverselove.com Follow Mona on Instagram @neurodiverse_love or click here to sign up for the Neurodiverse Love Newsletter. Also, if you are interested in buying a deck of the Neurodiverse Love Conversation Cards, the digital deck is now available for $11.  Click here to buy your deck today. Lastly, if you missed the Neurodiverse Love Conference you can still buy a ticket for $98 to listen to the 27 AMAZING  pre-recorded conference sessions. Click here to buy your ticket today.  Presentations will be available to watch until May 15, 2023 Thanks for being a part of the Neurodiverse Love Community!
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Mar 14, 2023 • 1h 18min

Be Proactive, Not Reactive, to Reach Your Highest Self in Your Neurodiverse Relationship-Renee Rosales, Founder of Theara

During this episode, Renee Rosales, the Founder of Theara shares the journey that she and her family have traveled to better understand the strengths, differences, challenges and learning opportunities that neurodiversity brings to their lives. Renee talks about how being an advocate for her son, took her down a path that helped pave the way for her passion for the "neurodiverse collective".   Through Theara she is offering the world an "acronym-based" system that can help build bridges for individuals, families, schools and organizations to learn how to better understand and support each other when there are neurological differences that may not be fully understood or appreciated. She also offers courses, coaching, consulting, links for life hacks, resources and tools for all types of neurodiversity. Other topics we discuss are: The road traveled to learn more about her son's differences. Fear of reaching out to others who may not understand. Grief and trauma that may occur with the discovery of neurodiversity. The importance of remembering that we don't just connect with words. Understanding the gift of curiosity and the importance of taking personal accountability. "Hybrid types" not "co-morbidities". What is a "sensory diet"? The shifts in her relationship with her husband. Why and when her and her husband separated and then reunited. Understanding dyslexia as a "processing disorder"- ie: "Dial-up" versus "broadband". The importance of understanding each other's communication style and needs. Respecting your partner, as you rebuild trust together. The value of being proactive, instead of reactive. You can't change others, however you "may" have some influence as you change yourself. Learning how you can be most effective individually, and in your relationships. Growth is painful! Both partners need to be invested in positive engagement. Turning trouble into training and obstacles into opportunities Determining what is going to be an obstacle to my JOY. Knowing love is in the "reaching"! You can contact Renee by email at: Theara@theara.com or on her website at: www.theara.com ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ If you are interested in learning more about the support groups that Mona offers for neurotypical/non-autistic partners or neurodiverse couples, please send her a DM on Instagram @neurodiverse_love, an email at: neurodiverselove4u@gmail.com. or visit her website at: www.neurodiverselove.com Also, if you are interested in buying a deck of the Neurodiverse Love Conversation Cards, the digital deck is now available for $11.  Click here to buy your deck today. Lastly, if you missed the Neurodiverse Love Conference you can still buy a ticket for $98 to listen to the 27  AMAZING  pre-recorded conference sessions. Click here to buy your ticket today.  Presentations will be available to watch until May 15, 2023 Thanks for being a part of the Neurodiverse Love Community!
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Mar 7, 2023 • 1h 2min

Unidentified Autism-Increasing Awareness and Understanding and Recognizing and Normalizing Autism in Your Relationship With Yourself & Your Partner-Guest Co-host Greg Fuqua

During this episode,  Mona is joined by her guest co-host Greg Fuqua for a great conversation about unidentified autism, awareness and understanding of autism, recognizing and normalizing autism, and the Generation Gap.   Greg was also a guest on Season 4 of the podcast, so if you haven't listened to that episode please check it out. Other topics we discuss are: The change in prevalence rates and what it really means. How neurodiversity presents in different ways. Validating and understanding how people struggle. Recognizing traits in yourself when your child is diagnosed. Increase in stress may contribute to identifying autism. Secondary and tertiary clues of autism. Narcissism and control issues that may be related to "unidentified autism". Social disability model of autism. Awareness, education and self understanding are just the beginning. Relationship with self is critical. Understanding which of your "parts" are trying to protect you. Be aware of stress and capacity issues. Masking to be accepted. Understanding the internal autistic experience and how more traits show up "at home". Barriers to self-disclosure. Normalizing different wiring as a lens for understanding and growing. Misdiagnosis in women. Struggles with Theory of Mind. If you would like to contact Greg you can check out his website at: www.GregFuqua.com or contact him at www.LifeWorksDM.com.  You can also check out his profile on Psychology Today. ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ If you are interested in learning more about the support groups that Mona offers for neurotypical/non-autistic partners or neurodiverse couples, please send her a DM on Instagram @neurodiverse_love,  an email at: neurodiverselove4u@gmail.com. or visit her website at: www.neurodiverselove.com Also, if you are interested in buying a deck of the Neurodiverse Love Conversation Cards, the digital deck is now available for $11.  Click here to buy your deck today. Lastly, if you missed the Neurodiverse Love Conference you can still buy a ticket for $98 to listen to the 27  AMAZING  pre-recorded conference sessions. Click here to buy your ticket today.  Presentations will be available to watch until May 15, 2023 Thanks for being a part of the Neurodiverse Love Community!
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Feb 28, 2023 • 57min

The Stigma and Fear That Neurodivergent Individuals and Neurodiverse Couples May Experience-Guest Co-host-Nicole Knowlton

If you missed the First Virtual Neurodiverse Love Conference, no worries...tickets are still available for $98 at: www.neurodiverselove.com.  You will be able to hear the 27 Fantastic pre-recorded conference presentations & check out some of the Q&A chats that were held during the conference.  All of the conference sessions will be available to watch until May 15, 2023. _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ During this episode, Mona and Nicole Knowlton talk about the stigma and fear neurodivergent individuals and neurodiverse couples may experience when sharing their neurodiverse journey. Some of the topics addressed include:  The stigma and fear around diagnosis and self identification;  Stereotypes that impact the responses received; How social media content is helping;  When, or how, to share with friends, family, and coworkers;  Looking at the genetic component of  neurodiversity and reviewing your family tree; What it means to have a diagnosis and how it may impact you in the future (ie: discrimination and/or accommodations); The importance of seeing your partner for who they are and not what you want them to be;  Being "neuro-gifted" and "neuro-talented"; Why it may be challenging to stop masking or camouflaging;  Mind-blindness; and  Healing old wounds and finding a new way of relating. _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ If you would like to contact Nicole for coaching, therapy and/or assessments.  You can find her on Psychology Today or on Twitter @aspietherapist _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ If you are interested in learning more about the support groups that Mona offers for neurotypical/non-autistic partners or neurodiverse couples, please send her a DM on Instagram @neurodiverse_love,  an email at: neurodiverselove4u@gmail.com. or visit her website at: www.neurodiverselove.com Also, if you are interested in buying a deck of the Neurodiverse Love Conversation Cards, the digital deck is now available for $11.  Click here to buy your deck today. Thanks for being a part of the Neurodiverse Love Community!
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Feb 21, 2023 • 27min

Thinking About Separation or Divorce?-Some Things to Consider

Delve into the emotional journey of separation in a neurodiverse relationship. The speaker shares personal experiences, highlighting the complex feelings that arise during a breakup. Explore the impact of neurodiversity on relationships, emphasizing the importance of healing and forgiveness. Discover valuable insights on assessing relationship viability and navigating the turmoil of divorce. The conversation encourages embracing joy and comfort amidst pain, shedding light on both neurotypical and autistic perspectives.

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