The Social-Engineer Podcast

This month, Chris Hadnagy and Ryan MacDougall are joined by Nishant Bhajaria. Nishant is an executive leader and industry-expert in the privacy and security space and currently serves as the Director of Privacy Engineering and Governance at Uber.  He plays the critical role connecting engineering, legal, and leadership to ensure data protection for both the user and the business. Prior to Uber, Nishant spearheaded compliance and privacy engineering programs at Google, Netflix and Nike. He has a Master’s Degree in computer science from Arizona State University  In addition to speaking extensively in this space, Nishant also teaches courses around privacy, security and career development on LinkedIn Learning. Nishant authored Data Privacy: A Runbook for Engineers - a deep dive into strategies on effectively identifying, communicating and addressing privacy risks using technical strategies. [Aug 15, 2022]  00:00 – Intro  00:20 – Intro Links  Social-Engineer.com Managed Voice Phishing  Managed Email Phishing Adversarial Simulations Social-Engineer channel on SLACK CLUTCH innocentlivesfoundation.org 02:17 – Nishant Bhajaria Intro  03:33 – How did your career path start?  05:44 – Balancing security and the end-user experience  09:29 – How to introduce security and privacy concepts into a pre-existing infrastructure  13:50 – Balancing technological freedom with security for your family  19:28 – Bridging divisions for the sake of privacy and security  22:09 – Creating better industry standards  26:28 – How to handle your platform becoming weaponized  30:53 – The ethical issue of data use  35:11 – The role of Social Engineering in privacy and security  39:14 – 3 action steps that companies should start doing right now  42:56 – Find Nishant online  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nishantjb/  Certification: https://dataprotocol.com/pe-certification  44:24 – Book Recommendations  Nonzero: The Logic of Human Destiny – Robert Wright Team of Rivals– Doris Kearns Goodwin Data Privacy: A Runbook for Engineers – Nishant Bhajaria 47:13 – Wrap Up   47:41 – Outro  www.social-engineer.com  www.innocentlivesfoundation.org 

Today Chris is talking with Hala Taha. Hala, who has been dubbed the “The Podcast Princess,” is the host of Young and Profiting (YAP) Podcast, which is frequently ranked as a #1 Education podcast across all apps. Hala is also the founder and CEO of YAP Media, a social media and podcast marketing agency for top podcasters, celebrities and CEOs. She is well-known for her engaged following and influence on LinkedIn, and she landed the January 2021 cover of Podcast Magazine.    Hala is an expert on networking, personal branding, leadership, social media, side hustles, entrepreneurship and podcasting. [Aug 8th, 2022]    00:00 – Intro   Social-Engineer.com Managed Voice Phishing Managed Email Phishing  Adversarial Simulations  Social-Engineer channel on SLACK  CLUTCH  innocentlivesfoundation.org  02:05 – Hala Taha Intro  03:14 – How did you end up running a media company?  05:43 – The journey towards starting YAP Media  07:01 – The early days of podcasting  09:22 – Resources for podcasting (2018 vs 2022)  10:38 – How did you transform a podcast into a media company?  16:20 – Taking Risks vs Being Smart  18:29 – The importance of pure intentions  20:44 – The secrets to finding like-minded team members  21:56 – What have been your biggest struggles while growing your company?  22:52 – Quality time with a remote team  24:51 – Maintaining the work-culture across time zones  26:35 – Tips for starting out  30:25 – Building the right foundation  32:27 – Find Hala online  Podcast link: https://linktr.ee/YAPwithHala  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/yapwithhala  Twitter: https://twitter.com/YAP_Podcast  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/htaha/  33:15 – Who have been your mentors?  Father  Heather Monahan  Jordan Harbinger  35:21 – Book Recommendations:  The Like Switch – Jack Schafer 36:17 – Guest Wrap Up  36:28 – Outro  www.social-engineer.com  www.innocentlivesfoundation.org  

This month, Chris Hadnagy and Ryan MacDougall are joined by the Chief Operating Officer of the ILF, Shane McCombs.   Shane leads the ILF with more than 25 years of experience in the tech industry, including more than a decade of experience in C-level roles. He led enterprise-wide initiatives within project management, customer relationship management and acquisition, policies and procedures, process improvement, and infrastructure. Shane is also an accomplished public speaker and trainer focused on change management, professionalism, social engineering, and corporate security. In the past, he volunteered for the Autism Hope Alliance and currently donates his time to businesses and non-profits as a trusted advisor. [July 18, 2022]   00:00 – Intro  01:02 – Intro Links  Social-Engineer.com Managed Voice Phishing Managed Email Phishing Adversarial Simulations Social-Engineer channel on SLACK  CLUTCH  innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/  04:41 – Shane McCombs Intro  06:14 – What got you started off in InfoSec?  08:36 – What led you to want to do more in the industry?  10:40 – “Throwing your hat in the ring”  17:31 – Cybersecurity for kids and parents  19:52 – How to "minor" in a "major" topic  22:29 – Age appropriate conversations  25:12 – Additional concerns in the summer months  28:38 – The TRUST Framework  31:40 – The importance of communication  33:59 – When and how to introduce electronic monitoring 40:16 – The "stats" of ILF  43:50 – Who is your biggest mentor?   - his wife   45:32 – Book Recommendations  Going Pro - Tony Kern The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People – Stephen Covey Neuromancer - William Gibson 48:44 – Wrap Up   49:29 – Outro  www.social-engineer.com  www.innocentlivesfoundation.org 

Today Chris is talking with Laurie Segall. Laurie is the founder of Dot Dot Dot, a media company focused on onboarding the mainstream into a new era of the internet, Web3. Laurie is an award-winning journalist who has interviewed the world’s most influential tech leaders including Mark Zuckerberg and Tim Cook. Prior, she was CNN’s senior tech correspondent, covering technology and culture for a decade and a former reporter for 60 Minutes. [July 11, 2022]  00:00 – Intro  Social-Engineer.com  Managed Voice Phishing  Managed Email Phishing Adversarial Simulations  Social-Engineer channel on SLACK  CLUTCH  innocentlivesfoundation.org  03:23 – Laurie Segall intro  04:20 – Starting your career in the "wee hours"   07:54 – Was journalism always the goal?  12:31 – Navigating chaos  15:57 – Taking on Revenge Porn  21:20 – What motivated you to write about your life so early?  24:46 – Writing during the pandemic  29:50 – How lobsters grow   35:44 – Building a company  38:40 – Wearing 2 hats  40:54 – Who would you consider your biggest mentors?  CNN Digital – Susan Grant   43:38 – Book Recommendations:  Slouching Towards Bethlehem - Joan Didion (Laurie’s book) Special Characters - Laurie Segall 45:56 – Find Laurie Segall online  Website link: https://www.d3network.io/  Instagram: @LaurieSegall & @d3_network  Twitter: @LaurieSegall & @d3_network  48:32 – Guest Wrap Up & Outro  www.social-engineer.com  www.innocentlivesfoundation.org  

This month, Chris Hadnagy and Ryan MacDougall are joined by Ted Harrington. Ted is the author of HACKABLE: How to Do Application Security Right and the Executive Partner at Independent Security Evaluators (ISE), the company of ethical hackers famous for hacking cars, medical devices, and password managers. Ted has been named both Executive of the Year by the American Business Awards and an SD Metro 40 Under 40 entrepreneur. Ted has been featured in more than 100 media outlets, including The Wall Street Journal, Financial Times, and Forbes. [June 20, 2022]  00:00 – Intro  00:56 – Intro Links  Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/  Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/  Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/  Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/  Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb  CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/  innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/  02:32 – Ted Harrington Intro  03:21 – How did you start off in this industry?  06:15 – Explain it like I'm 12 years old  07:59 – The origins of ISE   09:32 – Is there a "perfect" Password Manager?  14:11 – How to communicate at the executive level  16:54 – The right and wrong ways of investing in security  25:17 – Responsible Disclosure  29:04 – The challenges of the Medical Device field  32:39 – The problem with legislation driving security   34:20 – The manufacturers’ role in safety and security   36:00 – Who is the book "Hackable" for?  38:05 – Find Ted online  Twitter: https://twitter.com/securityted  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/securityted  Website: https://www.tedharrington.com  38:37 – Book Recommendations  Retail Pride - Ron Thurston   Art of Resilience – Hussein Al-Baiaty   41:04 – Who is your biggest mentor?  Business Partner – Steve Bono  45:35 – Wrap Up   46:17 – Outro  www.social-engineer.com  www.innocentlivesfoundation.org 

Today Chris is talking with Clay Drinko, Ph.D. Clay is an author and educator. He writes for Psychology Today about the intersection between improv comedy, science, and everyday life. He's also the author of the first academic book connecting improv and cognitive science, Theatrical Improvisation, Consciousness, and Cognition. His most recent book, Play Your Way Sane, was published by Simon & Schuster last year and applies his improv research to everyday life. [June 14, 2022]  00:00 – Intro  Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/  Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/  Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/  Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/  Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb  CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/  innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/  02:27 – Clay Drinko intro  03:27 – How does someone in Improv decide to study Cognitive Science?  05:46 – Losing anxiousness through performance  07:34 – The importance of a shift in focus  08:52 – Active Listening  11:41 – Yes, and...  14:01 – Don't try to be funny  15:54 – Establishing "who" and "where" you are  18:57 – How do you apply Cognitive Science to the idea of improv?  21:56 – Leaving your "baggage" at the door  25:13 – Managing the negative  26:40 – What are the biggest life skills you've learned from improv?  28:13 – Reflective questioning - Empathy or Selfishness?  31:03 – You are not special  34:29 – Do you want my help?  37:37 – Find Clay Drinko online  Website link: www.playyourwaysane.com  Instagram: www.instagram.com/playyourwaysane  38:13 – Book Recommendations:  Americanah - Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie  Educated - Tara Westover  Unmasking the Social Engineer - Christopher J. Hadnagy Nightbitch - Rachel Yoder  Clay’s Book – Play Your Way Sane - Clay Drinko  40:34 – Who would you consider your biggest mentors?  Advisor and Professor – Shirley Huston-Findley   43:14 – Guest Wrap Up  44:04 – Outro  www.social-engineer.com  www.innocentlivesfoundation.org  

This month, Chris Hadnagy and Ryan MacDougall are joined by Adam Glick. Adam is currently the Chief Information Security Officer for SimpliSafe in Boston, MA. In this position and his previous jobs, Adam has had the responsibility of managing all matters pertaining to information security, risk, policy, and procedures. Adam is currently an adjunct professor at Boston College in the cybersecurity policy & governance program, and an adjunct professor of IT in the MBA program at the School of Business at Providence College. Outside of the office, he is a car and technology enthusiast along with an avid reader, hiker, cyclist, and Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu practitioner.   [May 16, 2022]  00:00 – Intro  00:56 – Intro Links  Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/  Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/  Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/  Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/  Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb  CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/  innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/  02:52 – Adam Glick Intro  04:05 – How did you get started in Information Security?  05:10 – Applying a background in teaching to InfoSec  06:37 – Developing security programs for different environments  08:14 – Getting people to think about security  09:32 – Microtraining: Updating the way that we train for security  12:10 – The importance of security in our Professional and Personal lives  14:28 – Customizing security training for large companies  15:29 – Approaching security from a Top-Down perspective  17:20 – Getting top management to support security training  20:55 – Action steps for companies to focus on  Cyber Hygiene  Risk Based Methodology  23:22 – How can companies assess their own risk?  26:55 – Internal interviews to build security protocols  28:47 – Jiu Jitsu Security???  29:58 – How to contact Adam online  LinkedIn: in/glickadam/  31:19 – Who are your greatest mentors?  Donald Schattle  David Sherry  Walt Czerminski  33:17 – Book Recommendations  Good to Great – James C Collins  The Hobbit / Lord of the Rings series – J.R.R. Tolkien  The Witcher Saga – Andrzej Sapkowski  36:33 – Wrap Up   37:32 – Outro  www.social-engineer.com  www.innocentlivesfoundation.org 

Today we will be talking with Abbie Maroño, a nonverbal communications and social influence coach. Abbie published her first paper in nonverbal communication at 19 years old, going on to do her PhD in behavior analysis and become a university lecturer at 23. She now directs a research group, BRINC, alongside her coaching and teaching. [May 9, 2022]  00:00 – Intro  Social-Engineer.com  Managed Voice Phishing Managed Email Phishing Adversarial Simulations -  Social-Engineer channel on SLACK CLUTCH  innocentlivesfoundation.org  02:52 – Abbie Maroño intro  04:47 – At what point in your life did you want to become a Nonverbal expert?  06:56 – The reality of getting to where you want to be  08:39 – What kept you going after rejections?  11:15 – How does a person learn to find their passion?  14:06 – How did you decide to make Nonverbal Communications a career?  17:53 – How important is Open VS Closed Body Language?  23:00 – What is orientation and why does it matter?  27:49 – The role of body language in a virtual setting  33:30 – The "perception" of eye-contact in a video call  35:31 – Find Abbie Maroño on the web  Website link: abbiemarono.com  Twitter: @abbiejmarono  LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/abbie-maroño-35ab2611a   36:05 – New Job Announcement  38:16 – Who would you consider your biggest mentors?  Dr David Keatley   Joe Navarro  41:16 – Book Recommendations:  The Body Keeps the Score - Bessel van der Kolk  What Every BODY is Saying – Joe Navarro  Unmasking the Social Engineer - Christopher J. Hadnagy  The Code of Trust - Robin Dreeke  The Timeline Toolkit - David Keatley  The Polyvagal Theory - Stephen Porges  43:47 – Guest Wrap Up  44:17 – Outro  www.social-engineer.com  www.innocentlivesfoundation.org 

This month, Chris Hadnagy and Ryan MacDougall are joined by Patrick Laverty. Patrick is the Senior Team Lead at Social Engineer, LLC, working with an incredible team of professional social engineers. He was previously a senior penetration tester at Rapid7 and a member of the CSIRT at Akamai. He is a co-organizer of the Layer 8 Conference and is the host of the Layer 8 Podcast on social engineering and OSINT. He lives in Rhode Island with his daughter, dog and two cats. [April 18, 2022]  00:00 – Intro  00:50 – Patrick Laverty intro  https://layer8conference.com  02:19 – Intro Links  Social-Engineer.com Managed Voice Phishing  Managed Email Phishing Adversarial Simulations  Social-Engineer channel on SLACK  CLUTCH  innocentlivesfoundation.org  04:38 – Security Awareness in the world today  05:25 – Malicious Domain Registrations  06:58 – Protecting yourself from false domains  11:24 – CISA Alert / Shields Up  12:36 – Lowering Reporting Thresholds  13:33 – Empowering Security Information Officers  16:50 – Tabletop Exercises  19:20 – Planning for Continuity  21:09 – Beyond the Financial Effects of Ransomware  24:29 – Trying to protect the Healthcare Sector  25:27 – Backup & Recovery Process  28:38 – The source of Ransomware  30:03 – Planning for a Ransomware attack  31:51 – Why your site will be attacked  33:41 – 3 Actionable Tips  35:30 – Book Recommendations  Thinking, Fast and Slow– Daniel Kahneman How to Win Friends & Influence People– Dale Carnegie Delivered from Distraction – John Ratey Fixed – Amy Herman Going Pro – Dr Tony Kern 38:20 – Wrap Up   39:18 – Outro  www.social-engineer.com  www.innocentlivesfoundation.org 

Today we will be talking with Vanessa Bohns. Vanessa is a social psychologist and professor of organizational behavior at Cornell University. She holds a PhD from Columbia University and an AB from Brown University. Her writing has appeared in the New York Times, Wall Street Journal, and Harvard Business Review, and her research has been widely featured in the media, including The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, The Atlantic, The Economist, and on NPR’s Hidden Brain. Her first book, You Have More Influence Than You Think, was just published in September 2021. [April 11, 2022] 00:00 – Intro Social-Engineer.com Managed Voice Phishing Managed Email Phishing Adversarial Simulations Social-Engineer channel on SLACK CLUTCH innocentlivesfoundation.org 01:53 – Vanessa Bohns intro 02:43 – How did you make Social Influence your field? 05:48 – Why do we assume people will be negative when we make a request? 08:01 – The surprising results of asking for things 11:12 – We are wired to be agreeable 13:34 – What are the security implications of our default attitudes? 16:59 – What are the consequences of underestimating your own influence? 19:32 – Understanding how the situation can influence ethics 21:05 – What would you say is your favorite find? 21:48 – Enlisting someone to influence their ethics 24:00 – Paying attention to the human side of security 25:04 – What is your next study? 27:11 – The importance of a predefined script 28:54 – Will "keywords" change a person’s sense of agreeability? 30:10 – Recognizing your own influence 31:41 – Who would you consider some of your biggest mentors? Frank Flynn – Professor Father 33:39 – Book Recommendations: Bird by Bird – Anne Lamott An Astronaut's Guide to Life on Earth – Chris Hadfield (Vanessa’s Book) You Have More Influence Than You Think – Vanessa Bohns 35:47 – Guest Wrap Up 36:17 – Find Vanessa Bohns on the web Website link: vanessabohns.com Twitter: @profbohns Instagram: @profbohns LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vanessa-bohns-33219710/ 36:49 – Outro social-engineer.com innocentlivesfoundation.org