The Social-Engineer Podcast

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Feb 20, 2023 • 36min

Ep. 199 - Security Awareness Series - Bitcoin and SIM Swap with Haseeb Awan

Today on the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Security Awareness Series, Ryan and I are joined by Haseeb Awan. Haseeb is the CEO & Founder of Efani Secure Mobile, a company that works with ultra-high-net-worth individuals on their Mobile Security. Previously, he co-founded one of the largest Bitcoin ATM networks. He has been featured on NYT, TechCrunch, Wall Street Journal, Hulu, and several international media outlets.  [Feb 20, 2023]   00:00 - Intro 00:50 - Intro Links: -          Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/ -          Tuxcare – tuxcare.com -          Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/ -          Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/ -          Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/ -          Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb -          CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/ -          innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/                                                03:55 - Haseeb Awan Intro 05:23 - What led you from Bitcoin to Sim Swapping? 10:10 - More Than Financial Loss 12:27 - Protecting Something Out of Your Control 14:06 - It's About More than the Price 16:52 - Security vs Convenience 20:00 - Explaining Without Scaring 24:26 - The Importance of Stories 26:15 - Consider It Insurance 28:38 - Will the TelCos Follow Suit? 31:19 - Tips for a More Secure Company 32:33 - Book Recommendations: -          Zero to One – Peter Thiel 34:08 - Find Haseeb Awan Online -          Twitter: https://twitter.com/haseeb -          Twitter: https://twitter.com/efani -          LinkedIn: linkedin.com/company/efani/ -          YouTube: https://youtube.com/@efani 34:52 - Wrap Up & Outro -          www.social-engineer.com -          www.innocentlivesfoundation.org
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Feb 13, 2023 • 47min

Ep. 198 - Human Element Series - Using Compassion And Resiliency To Better Your Life with Dr. Cortney Warren

Today we are joined by Dr. Cortney S. Warren, a board-certified clinical psychologist and former tenured associate professor of psychology at the University of Nevada, Las Vegas. Dr. Warren is an expert on addictions, self-deception, eating pathology, and the practice of psychotherapy from a cross-cultural perspective. With almost 50 peer reviewed journal articles, 7 book chapters, two books, and 75 professional presentations, Dr. Warren’s work appears in some of the field's top journals. She has won some of the most prestigious awards in her field. In addition to publishing in scientific, peer-reviewed journals, Dr. Warren is passionate about bringing psychological research to the general public. She works as a research consultant, keynote speaker, and writes a blog for Psychology Today. This month, she published a self-help book on love addiction and breakups called Letting Go of Your Ex. [Feb 13, 2023] 00:00 – Intro 00:22 – Intro Links Social-Engineer.com- http://www.social-engineer.com/ Managed Voice Phishing- https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/ Managed Email Phishing- https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/ Adversarial Simulations- https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/ Social-Engineer channel on SLACK- https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb CLUTCH- http://www.pro-rock.com/ org- http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/                                              04:01 - Dr. Cortney Warren Intro 05:51 - A Personal and Professional Merging of Experiences 07:41 - Freedom in the Hard Truth 09:43 - The Path from Honest Liars 11:54 - Core Struggle: Addictive Behaviors 15:09 - The War Inside Your Head 16:48 - Hold Up a Mirror 18:18 - The Role of Self Deception (In Love) 22:08 - Addicted to Love 24:40 - When the Honeymoon is Over 28:37 - Guided by Values 31:42 - The Importance of Alignment 34:10 - Leading By Example 36:06 - A Call for Compassion 38:49 - Find Dr. Cortney Warren online Website: https://drcortney.com/ LinkedIn: in/drcortney Instagram: drcortneywarren TikTok: @drcortneywarren Twitter: @DrCortneyWarren Psychology Today: Naked Truth Blog 40:09 - Who do you consider your greatest mentors? Jaine Strauss Nancy Raymond David Gleaves Antonio Cepeda-Benito 41:10 - My Grandmother: A Lesson in Resilience 44:09 - Book Recommendations Man's Search for Meaning - Viktor Frankl Up from Slavery - Booker T. Washington Letting Go of Your Ex - Cortney Warren 46:08 - Guest Wrap Up                                 46:48 – Outro social-engineer.com innocentlivesfoundation.org
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Feb 6, 2023 • 53min

Ep. 197 - The Doctor Is In Series - Information Elicitation

The podcast discusses information elicitation and the importance of science-based interviewing. They explore the collaboration between theory and practice, the dynamics of dyadic interactions, fostering cooperation and building trust, the power of a friendly approach in challenging scenarios, the importance of social connection and creating a safe environment, and effective communication for behavior correction.
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Jan 30, 2023 • 52min

Ep. 196 - SE Etc Series - The Role Of Empathy In Social Engineering with Patrick and Chris

Welcome to the Social-Engineer Podcast: The SE Etc. Series. This series will be hosted by Chris Hadnagy, CEO of Social-Engineer LLC, and The Innocent Lives Foundation, as well as Social-Engineer.Org and The Institute for Social Engineering. Chris will be joined by his co-host Patrick Laverty as they discuss topics pertaining to the world of Social Engineering. [Jan 30, 2023]   00:00 – Intro 00:28 – Patrick Laverty Intro 00:58 – Intro Links Social-Engineer.com- http://www.social-engineer.com/ Managed Voice Phishing- https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/ Managed Email Phishing- https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/ Adversarial Simulations- https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/ Social-Engineer channel on SLACK- https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb CLUTCH- http://www.pro-rock.com/ org- http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/                                                05:38 – "You never know"                                                           06:51 – Todays Topic: The Role of Empathy in SE                                                                07:02 – Empathy: A Definition                                                    11:09 – 3 Kinds of Empathy                                                         11:23 – Cognitive Empathy                                                          12:21 – Emotional Empathy                                                         13:00 – Empathic Concern                                                           15:52 – The Role of Emotional Distance                                                  16:57 – Learning Empathy                                                            17:49 – What the Studies Show                                                 19:56 – Keeping an Open Mind                                                  21:35 – Letting Your Life Experiences Teach You                                                 23:52 – The Social Media Bubble                                                               25:55 – Expand And Listen                                                           30:13 – Applying Empathy to Social Engineering                                                 31:25 – Being Adversarial                                                             32:45 – Don't Be the Bad Guy                                                     38:33 – The Importance of "Why"                                                             42:51 – Using Empathy to Make the Best Choice                                                48:07 – Using Empathy to Make the Hard Choice                                                               49:55 – Practice Makes (Not Quite) Perfect                                                          51:17 – Coming Up Next Month                                                                52:08 – Wrap Up & Outro social-engineer.com innocentlivesfoundation.org Find us online Chris Hadnagy Twitter: @humanhacker LinkedIn: com/in/christopherhadnagy Patrick Laverty Twitter: @plaverty9 LinkedIn: com/in/plaverty9
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Jan 27, 2023 • 41min

Ep. 195 - Security Awareness Series - Social Engineering Forecast for 2023

Today on the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Security Awareness Series, Ryan and I will have a special discussion of the 2023 security landscape. [Jan 27, 2023]   00:00 – Intro 00:27 – Intro Links: Social-Engineer.com- http://www.social-engineer.com/ Managed Voice Phishing- https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/ Managed Email Phishing- https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/ Adversarial Simulations- https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/ Social-Engineer channel on SLACK- https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb CLUTCH- http://www.pro-rock.com/ innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/ 04:25 – Don't Forget Ryan                                                            05:11 – What Are We Talking About: 2023 Edition                                                             05:39 – 2022 Was Rough!                                                             07:09 – Getting Everyone Else Up To Speed                                                          09:24 – Hackers for Hire?                                                              12:58 – Economic Crisis = Rise in Cybercrime                                                       15:10 – Emotional Victimizing                                                     18:08 – Losing the Teachable Moment                                                   20:42 – Ransomware as a Growth Industry                                                           24:20 – MFA for All!                                                        27:15 – There is Hope                                                    28:40 – Make It Personal                                                              30:47 – A Tool is Just a Tool                                                         33:25 – Don't Recycle                                                     34:53 – Make it Hard!                                                     36:29 – Gotta Get it Tailored                                                       37:47 – Trust the Process                                                             39:40 – Wrap Up & Outro social-engineer.com innocentlivesfoundation.org
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Jan 25, 2023 • 39min

Ep. 194 - Human Element Series - RUSE: Corporate Spies as a Service with Robert Kerbeck

Today we are joined by Robert Kerbeck. Robert is the founder of the Malibu Writers Circle, a lifetime member of the Actors Studio, and a graduate of the University of Pennsylvania. His true crime memoir about his secret career as a corporate spy, RUSE: Lying the American Dream from Hollywood to Wall Street, has received praise from Frank Abagnale and former CIA Agent Valerie Plame. Kerbeck’s writing has appeared in numerous publications including the Los Angeles Times, the San Francisco Chronicle, Los Angeles Magazine, and Lithub’s Crime Reads. [Jan 25, 2023]  00:00 – Intro   00:26 – Intro Links  Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/  Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/  Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/  Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/  Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb  CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/  innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/  02:21 – Robert Kerbeck Intro   03:28 – How do you "stumble" into becoming a corporate spy?   06:51 – Going inside: This is Social Engineering   08:29 – Very Dark Grey   10:33 – We Need to Talk About Kevin   11:25 – Making OJ look good   15:25 – Doing what LinkedIn can't   19:54 – Making the lie sound better than the truth   21:13 – Setting boundaries   22:21 – Hacking people is easy   24:46 – Some need convincing   26:08 – Ransomware   28:38 – No spies here!   30:03 – This isn't going away!   31:08 – Knock, knock   32:35 – Hacking the human   34:59 – Find Robert Kerbeck online  Website: www.robertkerbeck.com   35:43 – Who do you consider your mentors?  Professor from Freshman Year  Frank Abagnale  36:49 – Book Recommendations:  Fair Game – Valerie Plame  Catch Me If You Can – Frank Abagnale  RUSE – Robert Kerbeck  38:00 – Guest Wrap Up   38:26 – Outro  www.social-engineer.com  www.innocentlivesfoundation.org  
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Jan 16, 2023 • 48min

Ep. 193 - The Doctor Is In Series - Shame, The Good The Bad And The Coping

Welcome to the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Doctor Is In Series – where we will discuss understandings and developments in the field of psychology.   In today’s episode, Chris and Abbie are discussing: Shame. We will talk about how shame helps us, hinders us, why some people can deal with it and why some can’t. We’ll also discuss various coping strategies and more.  [Jan 02, 2023]   00:00 – Intro 00:17 – Dr. Abbie Maroño Intro 00:55 – Intro Links Social-Engineer.com- http://www.social-engineer.com/ Managed Voice Phishing- https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/ Managed Email Phishing- https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/ Adversarial Simulations- https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/ Social-Engineer channel on SLACK- https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb CLUTCH- http://www.pro-rock.com/ org- http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/ 03:38 – The topic of the day: Shame                                                   05:44 – Is there a positive side to shame?                                                       07:29 – Directed by beliefs                                                     09:02 – Cultural differences                                                   10:14 – Shame's functionality                                                11:16 – Societal stigma                                             12:35 – How shame can hinder                                             16:36 – Literal shutdown                                                        19:30 – Emotional Blunting                                                    22:15 – Guilt vs Shame: Sense of Self                                                 24:14 – Those who can, cope!                                               26:54 – When shame is a symptom                                                    28:09 – Finding a support network                                                     30:03 – The "core" of shame                                                  33:45 – The road to Mindfulness                                                         37:20 – Environmental Shame                                               38:34 – Horrifically fascinating                                              41:06 – You have to get out there!                                                      43:00 – Tips for our younger listeners                                                45:25 – Remember Pen Pals?                                                 46:44 – Wrap Up                                                        47:39 – Outro social-engineer.com innocentlivesfoundation.org     Find us online: Twitter: https://twitter.com/abbiejmarono LinkedIn: com/in/dr-abbie-maroño-phd-35ab2611a Twitter: https://twitter.com/humanhacker LinkedIn: com/in/christopherhadnagy   References: Burkitt, I. (2008). Social selves: Theories of self and society. Sage.   Elison, J., Pulos, S., & Lennon, R. (2006). Shame-focused coping: An empirical study of the compass of shame. Social Behavior and Personality: an international journal, 34(2), 161-168.   Garey, S. S. (1998). Long-term effects of sibling emotional and physical abuse on adult self-concept and the associated guilt and shame. United States International University.   Gilchrist, J. D., Solomon-Krakus, S., Pila, E., Crocker, P., & Sabiston, C. M. (2020). Associations between physical self-concept and anticipated guilt and shame: The moderating role of gender. Sex Roles, 83(11), 763-772.   Harper, J. M. (2011). Regulating and coping with shame. Re-constructing emotional spaces: From experience to regulation, 189-206.   Hawes, D. J., Helyer, R., Herlianto, E. C., & Willing, J. (2013). Borderline personality features and implicit shame-prone self-concept in middle childhood and early adolescence. Journal of Clinical Child & Adolescent Psychology, 42(3), 302-308.   Kinston, W. (1983). A theoretical context for shame. International Journal of Psycho-Analysis, 64, 213-226.   Krüger, S., & Rustad, G. C. (2019). Coping with shame in a media-saturated society: Norwegian web-series Skam as transitional object. Television & new media, 20(1), 72-95.   Nathanson, D. L. (1987). The many faces of shame. In Partially based on a symposium held in Los Angeles, 1984 for the 137th Annual Meeting of the American Psychiatric Association.. The Guilford Press.   Rüsch, N., Lieb, K., Göttler, I., Hermann, C., Schramm, E., Richter, H., ... & Bohus, M. (2007). Shame and implicit self-concept in women with borderline personality disorder. American journal of psychiatry, 164(3), 500-508.   Scheff, T. J. (2003). Shame in self and society. Symbolic interaction, 26(2), 239-262.   Tangney, J. P. (1996). Conceptual and methodological issues in the assessment of shame and guilt. Behaviour research and therapy, 34(9), 741-754.   Taylor, P. J., McDonald, J., Smith, M., Nicholson, H., & Forrester, R. (2019). Distinguishing people with current, past, and no history of non-suicidal self-injury: Shame, social comparison, and self-concept integration. Journal of Affective Disorders, 246, 182-188.   Taylor, T. F. (2015). The influence of shame on posttrauma disorders: have we failed to see the obvious?. European journal of psychotraumatology, 6(1), 28847.
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Dec 26, 2022 • 48min

Ep. 192 - SE Etc Series - Shelbys Love of Dumpsters with Patrick and Chris

Welcome to the Social-Engineer Podcast: The SE Etc. Series. This series will be hosted by Chris Hadnagy, CEO of Social-Engineer LLC, and The Innocent Lives Foundation, as well as Social-Engineer.Org and The Institute for Social Engineering. Chris will be joined by his co-host Patrick Laverty as they discuss topics pertaining to the world of Social Engineering. [Dec 26, 2022]    00:00 – Intro  00:29 – Patrick Laverty Intro  01:18 – Intro Links  Social-Engineer.com  Managed Voice Phishing  Managed Email Phishing Adversarial Simulations  Social-Engineer channel on SLACK  CLUTCH  innocentlivesfoundation.org 05:04 – Todays Topic: Dumpster Diving  06:27 – Shelby Dacko Intro  08:38 – Patrick’s Pizza Adventure  14:34 – Who is Shelby?  15:51 – 9 Times  19:20 – The continuing importance of OSINT  20:44 – What are some "typical" goals for a "break-in"?  22:40 – Concerns with 3rd party security  23:08 – Shelby's nighttime find  26:37 – Shelby's Trash Talk  31:02 – All the luck  33:20 – A moment in time  35:37 – Situational Awareness  38:58 – The 4th Step  41:02 – Diversity of thought  42:06 – Cut me some SLACK  44:39 – "It's more about the raccoons"  46:50 – Wrap Up & Outro  www.social-engineer.com  www.innocentlivesfoundation.org    Find us online  Chris Hadnagy  Twitter: @humanhacker  LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/christopherhadnagy  Patrick Laverty  Twitter: @plaverty9  LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/plaverty9 
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Dec 19, 2022 • 38min

Ep. 191 - Security Awareness Series - Getting Hit By a Bus with Steve Orrin

Today our guest is Steve Orrin. Steve is a respected IT executive with over 30 years of experience in cybersecurity, solution architecture, virtualization security, and federal project management. Orrin earned a Bachelor's in Honors Research Biology from Kean University. He currently serves as a Federal Chief Technology Officer and Senior PE for Intel Corporation. He is also a key advisor and subject matter expert in the emerging technologies space, providing guidance to the Public Sector, Defense, and Intelligence communities. [Dec 19, 2022]    00:00 – Intro  00:55 – Intro Links:  Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/  Managed Voice Phishing  Managed Email Phishing Adversarial Simulations -  Social-Engineer channel on SLACK  CLUTCH innocentlivesfoundation.org  03:43 – Steve Orrin Intro  04:26 – How did a biologist become a CTO at Intel?  09:10 – The evolution of security attacks  12:22 – Humans are humans  13:18 – Higher-risk targets  13:54 – If I knew then...LISTEN!  15:09 – Speak the language  16:27 – Making limoncello out of lemons  17:36 – Check your ego  19:04 – The prerequisites  21:06 – A Self-fulfilling Prophecy of Awesome Things  22:15 – Perfection is the Enemy of Good  26:06 – Handling failure  28:12 – Culturing opportunities  30:37 – Ninja skills  32:07 – Have you had mentors in your career?  Bruce Schneier  David Riss  33:42 – Book Recommendations   Good to Great – Jim Collins  Built to Last – Jim Collins  Applied Cryptography – Bruce Schneier  35:52 – Find Steve Orrin online  LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/sorrin/  intel.com/publicsector  37:02 – Wrap Up  37:21 – Outro  www.social-engineer.com  www.innocentlivesfoundation.org 
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Dec 12, 2022 • 42min

Ep. 190 - Human Element Series - Decide What To Be Bad At with Dorie Clark

Dorie Clark helps individuals and companies get their best ideas heard in a crowded, noisy world. She has been named one of the Top 50 business thinkers in the world by Thinkers50. She was honored as the #1 Communication Coach by the Marshall Goldsmith Leading Global Coaches Awards and one of the Top 5 Communication Professionals in the World by Global Gurus.     She is the Wall Street Journal bestselling author of The Long Game, Entrepreneurial You, Reinventing You, and Stand Out, which was named the #1 Leadership Book of the Year by Inc. magazine.    A former presidential campaign spokeswoman, Clark has been described by the New York Times as an “expert at self-reinvention and helping others make changes in their lives.” She is a frequent contributor to the Harvard Business Review, and consults and speaks for clients such as Google, Yale University, and the World Bank.    She is a graduate of Harvard Divinity School, a producer of a multiple Grammy-winning jazz album, and a Broadway investor. [Dec 12, 2022]     00:00 – Intro   00:18 – Intro Links  Social-Engineer.com  Managed Voice Phishing  Managed Email Phishing  Adversarial Simulations  Social-Engineer channel on SLACK  CLUTCH  innocentlivesfoundation.org 02:37 – Dorie Clark Intro  04:01 – How did you decide to become a leadership expert?  05:26 – Defeating the "gatekeepers"  08:06 – The benefits of Social Proof  12:34 – Has the "long game" changed in the last 10 years?  15:36 – The rise of FOMO  18:19 – Getting back to long-term thinking  19:52 – You don't have to "Take the Leap!"  25:32 – Be 2 years older with straight teeth  27:42 – Confusing "busy" with "important"  31:40 – Deciding what to be bad at  36:16 – Who do you consider your mentor?  Marshall Goldsmith  38:31 – Book Recommendations:  The Thursday Murder Club – Richard Osman  Influence – Robert Cialdini  The Long Game – Dorie Clark Entrepreneurial You – Dorie Clark  Reinventing You – Dorie Clark Stand Out – Dorie Clark 40:28 – Find Dorie Clark online  Twitter: https://twitter.com/dorieclark  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/doriec/  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/dorieclarkauthor/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dorieclark/  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/DorieClark  Website: https://www.dorieclark.com  41:12 – Guest Wrap Up   41:35 – Outro  www.social-engineer.com  www.innocentlivesfoundation.org  

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