
Good Bad Billionaire
How did the planet's richest people make their billions? From iconic celebrities and secretive CEOs to sporting legends and titans of technology, Simon Jack and Zing Tsjeng find out, and then decide whether they think they’re good, bad, or just another billionaire. Ever wondered how Taylor Swift went from country singer to money-spinner? How Amazon boss Jeff Bezos came to launch one of the biggest corporations of the internet age? And how six-time NBA champion Michael Jordan made his fortune with Nike? Good Bad Billionaire is here to analyse the minds, motives and money of some of the world's wealthiest individuals. Simon and Zing explore the lives of the super-rich and famous, tracking their wealth, philanthropy, business ethics and success. In Season three, find out how Selena Gomez went from a child Disney star to a mega-magnate of makeup and how Martha Stewart, the “original lifestyle influencer” became one of the most successful women in business. We explore the life of British inventor James Dyson, and learn about some of the big names behind Minecraft, Marvel, WWE and the ultimate reality TV show – Big Brother. Join us on a global journey, discovering all we can about some of the richest people on the planet. In the United States, there are leaders who made their money in Silicon Valley, on Wall Street and in high street fashion. Trawl through the archives to hear about billionaires in Russia, China, New Zealand, India, Nigeria and the UK. Exploring the lives of Oprah Winfrey, Bill Gates, Rupert Murdoch, El Chapo, Narayana Murthy and Kim Kardashian, this podcast paints a vivid picture of business, entrepreneurship, capitalism and how our world really works. Discover how the likes of Jerry Seinfeld, Peter Jackson, Doris Fisher and George Soros came to join the billionaires' club. Learn how Tiger Woods went from a child golfing prodigy to the world’s highest paid athlete, how a communist mime artist became the boss of fashion house Prada and how Russian oligarch Roman Abramovich came to buy an English football club. Find out how Mukesh Ambani became Asia’s richest person, and how Patrice Motsepe became the first black billionaire in a post-apartheid South Africa. Plus, we examine some of the biggest names behind the technology shaping our world – the founders of TikTok, Google, ChatGPT, Alibaba and Bumble. But it's not just how these billionaires made their money; it's what they did with it next. Ultimately, Simon and Zing consider whether they think these people are a force for good, bad, or somewhere in between. Join Simon Jack, the business editor for BBC News, and journalist and author Zing Tsjeng as this podcast unravels tales of fortune, power, economics, ambition and moral responsibility, ultimately inviting you to make up your own mind: are they good, bad, or just another billionaire? We’d love to hear your feedback. Email goodbadbillionaire@bbc.com or drop us a text or WhatsApp to +1 (917) 686-1176. To find out more about the show and read our privacy notice, visit www.bbcworldservice.com/goodbadbillionaire
Latest episodes

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Jun 2, 2025 • 40min
Eike Batista: Golden grifter
In this intriguing dive, listeners explore the meteoric rise and dramatic fall of Eike Batista, Brazil’s once-wealthiest man. From a gold tycoon to a notorious grifter, Batista's life was marked by extravagant lifestyle choices and high-stakes business ventures. The hosts discuss his ambitious attempts to revolutionize Brazil's mining industry and the corruption that led to his infamous legal troubles. They weigh his celebrated contributions against his controversial legacy, prompting debates on the true nature of wealth and influence.

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May 26, 2025 • 48min
LeBron James: King of the court
LeBron James turned down a $10 million offer from Reebok at just 18, showing remarkable foresight. His journey from a challenging upbringing to becoming an NBA legend is inspiring. Beyond basketball, he built a business empire with Nike and strategic investments, including Blaze Pizza. The podcast explores his controversial decision to move to the Miami Heat, the evolution of his public image, and his rise to billionaire status. It also highlights his philanthropic efforts and activism, making him more than just an athlete.

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May 19, 2025 • 45min
Masayoshi Son: High-tech gambler
Dive into the fascinating life of Masayoshi Son, a high-tech gambler who rose from poverty to build SoftBank, showcasing his bold investment strategies and remarkable comebacks. Discover how he overcame significant health challenges and once lost 96% of his fortune yet remained a billionaire through high-stakes bets on tech giants like Alibaba. From an ambitious teenager crashing corporate headquarters to a visionary navigating the tumultuous tech landscape, his story is a blend of triumph and tenacity.

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May 12, 2025 • 42min
Strive Masiyiwa: Connecting a continent
Explore the remarkable journey of Strive Masiyiwa, Zimbabwe’s first billionaire, who turned challenges into triumphs amidst political turmoil. Hear about his escape from kidnapping and how he revolutionized telecommunications with Econet Wireless across Africa. Delve into his innovative contributions like EcoCash and the Sasai app, reshaping financial landscapes while navigating corruption. The discussion also touches on his philanthropic efforts and the complex impact of his entrepreneurial spirit on education and economic growth across the continent.

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May 5, 2025 • 47min
Ike Perlmutter: Marvel’s empire builder
Explore the fascinating rise of Isaac Perlmutter, who took Marvel from the brink of bankruptcy to cinematic greatness. Discover his frugality and bold business strategies that revived the company, particularly in the toy industry. Dive into high-stakes decisions at Mar-a-Lago and the complexities of launching the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Delve into the duality of his character, where philanthropy meets controversy, and ponder the moral implications of his billionaire status while reflecting on the impact he had on modern filmmaking.

37 snips
Apr 28, 2025 • 48min
Selena Gomez: Actress, singer, beauty mogul
Selena Gomez's journey from child star to billionaire beauty mogul is riveting. She faced intense media scrutiny, battled health issues, and transformed her struggles into a mission for mental health advocacy. The podcast highlights her family's immigrant background and the pressures of fame, including her relationships and career challenges. Rare Beauty not only signifies her financial success but also her commitment to philanthropy, as she pledges a portion of proceeds to mental health initiatives. Dive into the complexities of her life and the impact of celebrity culture!

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Apr 21, 2025 • 47min
Orlando Bravo: Tech dealmaker
Orlando Bravo's journey from aspiring tennis pro to the first Puerto Rican billionaire is a fascinating tale of pivoting to finance. A parenting revelation about diapers reshaped his business approach, emphasizing trust and growth. The podcast delves into the profitability of software firms, revealing investment secrets during the SaaS boom. Bravo's philanthropy in Puerto Rico post-Hurricane Maria contrasts with scandals in cyber security and cryptocurrency. His story raises questions about wealth's duality and the ethical complexities of success.

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Apr 14, 2025 • 49min
Vince McMahon: Wrestling's ringmaster
Discover the fascinating journey of Vince McMahon, who transformed wrestling into a $6.8 billion spectacle. From his rise as Mr. McMahon to the creation of WrestleMania, his strategies revolutionized the industry. Dive into the dramatic rivalry with Ted Turner and the implications of wrestling’s dark era, addressing issues like undercompensation and allegations of abuse. The duality of wrestling personas highlights both the theatricality and ethical dilemmas faced by its stars. It’s a deep dive into the morally complex world of sports entertainment.

47 snips
Apr 7, 2025 • 46min
Markus Persson: Minecraft maker
Dive into the fascinating journey of Markus Persson, the mastermind behind Minecraft. From a high school dropout obsessed with Lego, he created a 3D world where players unleash creativity. Discover how an indie game transformed into a global phenomenon, leading to a billion-dollar sale to Microsoft. Explore the impact of Minecraft on communication, especially among autistic children, and the complexities of wealth and creativity in Persson's life. It's a compelling story of triumph, challenges, and the legacy of a gaming icon.

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Mar 31, 2025 • 41min
John de Mol: Big Brother’s daddy
Explore how John de Mol revolutionized reality TV, birthing iconic shows like Big Brother and The Voice. From his early days in pirate radio to founding the powerhouse Endemol, his journey is filled with innovation and controversy. The podcast dives into the societal impacts of reality television, discussing everything from mental health issues for contestants to the ethics of fame. Delve into the legacy of a billionaire who reshaped entertainment and contemplate the moral responsibilities that come with such immense wealth.