
Church Disrupted
Taking on church hurt and spiritual abuse one conversation at a time. If you’ve been hurt by the church, you’re not alone. Together, we can heal. Together, we can bring about change. It’s time to take a stand!
*Church Disrupted is a production of the Spiritual Abuse Institute. Learn more about our work at: https://www.spiritualabuse.institute/
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Nov 14, 2023 • 1h 6min
014: Mega Churches And Miracle Offerings VS New Testament Giving
Mega churches, money manipulation, and miracle offerings are just a few of the things we talk about in this episode. It's miracle offering season in the church world, and in this episode of the Church Disrupted Podcast, Jeff Cochran, Shawn Reece, and Buck Flemming discuss our Documentary on Miracle Offerings and share their insights and takeaways from the documentary.
It's time to bring back transparency into the church, especially around finances! In this episode, we'll share questions you can ask about special offerings to find out if they are legit and what you can do if you encounter an offering or giving campaign that you are unsure about.
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TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 - Intro
03:04 - Partner Spotlight and Testimonial
08:02 - Our Experiences with Miracle Offerings
13:14 - The Cost of Discipleship?
17:40 - Wasting Tithing Dollars
19:35 -Trustworthy and Transparent?
21:59 - Generosity done right
23:24 - Masterful Manipulation
26:36 - What's at Stake if You Buck the System
29:03 - Big Money Pastors?
32:28 - Best Sellers List and Dusty Books
37:15 - It's Affecting Real People
39:26 - Tithing VS the New Testament?
46:05 - Good Questions to Ask

Nov 9, 2023 • 2h 46min
013: EXPOSING Mega Church Money Manipulation AND Miracle Offerings
Miracle offering season in the mega-church ramps up every Fall as celebrity pastors and their churches manipulate people into giving millions of dollars in a single weekend. Under the guise of "missions" and "outreach," big churches scam people out of more money to expand their existing ministries, grow their revenue, and get even bigger.
All of this is above and beyond the tithes that people are already giving faithfully. Worst of all, there is almost zero transparency and accountability about how churches spend this money when the offering is done. With millions of dollars in assets already, these rich mega-churches just keep getting bigger and richer while people in their communities struggle to make ends meet. All the while, their CEO celebrity pastors continue living luxury lifestyles that few in their communities can.
In this documentary video, we expose the common money manipulation tactics of churches and the playbook churches use to pull off miracle offerings every year. We also discuss the selling of miracles and the strategies toxic churches use to get church members to give sacrificially beyond what they can afford. We also arm you with questions to ask to know whether your church can be trusted financially and to help you know whether an offering is legit or a scam.
This video is NOT for the faint of heart. It IS for those who want the TRUTH and want to see the church be better.
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TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 - Intro
02:54 - Two Haunting Questions
04:20 - The C3 Miracle Offering SCAM
11:29 - Partner Spotlight and Thank You's
13:55 - Miracle Offering Audio Clips
36:51 - Evangelicalism Sells Miracles
41:03 - Miracle Offering SEASON
49:55 - Subtle Manipulation Tactics (Steven Furtick)
55:24 - Hidden Manipulation Language (Chris Hodges Sermon)
1:26:56 - Sowing Seed to Reap a Miracle
1:29:44 -The Prosperity Gospel
1:39:19 - Modern-Day Indulgences
1:45:20 - A Twisted Offering Theology
1:54:32 - The Hypocrisy of Church Debt
1:55:48 - The Miracle Offering Playbook
2:00:00 - Where the Money Really Goes
2:15:04 - Piles of Cash and Financial Statements
2:20:36 - Money Manipulation Systems
2:31:17 - Churches Doing it RIGHT!!!
2:32:52 - The Celebrity Preacher SCAM
2:39:30 - Blank Envelopes and Fake Offerings
2:41:22 - Good Questions to Ask

Nov 2, 2023 • 1h 2min
012: LOOK for THESE THINGS In A Church After Church Hurt! (Celebrating Healthy Pastors and Churches)
Church is supposed to be a place where we come to connect with God and other believers. But sometimes, church can be a scary place, especially if you've been through church hurt or spiritual abuse before.
In this episode of the Church Disrupted Podcast, we highlight what healthy pastors and healthy churches look like. We also talk about signs of a safe and healthy church that you can look for when re-engaging with the church after church hurt. If you've experienced religious trauma, know you are not alone. But also know that there are really good and healthy churches out there. Our prayer is this episode helps you find one. And for pastors, we hope this video helps you become a healthier leader and build safe churches.
Also, happy pastor's appreciation month to the loving shepherds out there!
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TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 - Intro
02:00 - Why we are talking about this topic
03:55 - The GOOD We are seeing in the Church
05:31 - When the Pastor gets to know you
10:50 - Pastoring is About Being with People
13:10 - Authenticity and Vulnerability
14:43 - Highling Podcast Partners
17:12 - Pastors who apologize and call their own fouls
21:54 - When Pastors are REAL
23:06 - Dealing with Church Hurt Triggers
24:21 - True Pastoral Care
33:31 - Encouragements for Pastors who want to lead well
40:11 - When Churches get it right
43:29 - Volunteering and Money Issues
51:02 - The Power of Seeing People
54:19 - Final words for pastors and churches
01:01:33 - Conclusion and Outro

Oct 27, 2023 • 1h 37min
011: (Part 2) How to Live A Black & White Bible in A Gray World
If you've ever struggled to make sense of the bible, understand certain scriptures, or have been confused about how to apply the Bible to modern cultural issues, this episode is for you!
In today's episode of the Church Disrupted podcast, we're gonna take a look at a way that you can approach and study the Bible that will always allow you to understand it better, even when you're confused. More importantly, it will always allow you to look, live, and love like Jesus to the world around you. So, anytime you come to something that confuses you about scripture, or you run into something in the world, and you're not sure how to apply scripture, this approach is going to help.
In episode 11 of the Church Disrupted podcast, Jeff Cochran, Buck Fleming, and Shawn Reece discuss a new hermeneutic that is powerful and transformative!
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TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 - Intro
02:14 - Recapping Last Episode & Setting the Table
05:42 - What Excites Us About This Episode
08:57 - Partner Spotlight!
11:51 - Hypocrites and Biblical Paradoxes
15:18 - A New Hermeneutic
31:34 - Before we can love others, we have to love ourselves
34:56 - The Log and the Speck Issue
41:03 - How you talk to yourself matters
44:38 -Continuing the New Hermeneutic
57:47 - Truth in love and close enough to correct
01:13:00 - Engaging the Great Commission
01:23:54 - The Fruit of the Spirit
01:32:37 - Final Thoughts
01:36:27 - Outro

Oct 17, 2023 • 1h 44min
010: How to Live a Black-and-White BIBLE in a Gray World!
Have you ever run into what seemed like a contradiction in the Bible? You know where you got one verse that feels like it says one thing and another verse that feels like it says something completely different? Or have you encountered anything in our current culture and had difficulty figuring out what the Bible had to say about it? If you've ever had either of those experiences, then this podcast is for you.
On this episode of the Church Disrupted Podcast, we start a two-part conversation about how to live out a black-and-white Bible in a gray world.
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Oct 11, 2023 • 2h 6min
009: Is the Multisite MEGACHURCH a FAILED Experiment?!
Talk about the multisite Mega Church and you will get A LOT of STRONG opinions. Some think the multisite mega church is a scam. Others think it is great. Some think the mega church is evil, while others love it and believe it's the answer to growing the church in North America. A bevy of recent mega church scandals have only added to the confusion and frustration.
In this episode of the Church Disrupted Podcast, Jeff Cochran and Vicki May take a deep dive look into the good, bad, and ugly of the multi-site megachurch and discuss what they see happening with this movement in the future.
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TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 - Intro
01:56 - Thank You's!
03:10 - What is the Multisite Mega Church?
05:45 - How the Multisite Mega Church took root in North America
10:58 - Common Ways People think about the Mega Church
12:11 - Thanking Our Podcast Partners!
15:01 - Common Ways People think about the Mega Church (Continued)
20:25 - Pastoral Care and Volunteer Burnout Concerns
25:11 - The unintended consequence of the multisite mega church
36:44 - How MEGA is the Multisite Mega Church (discipleship concerns in big churches)
52:32 - A cookie cutter approach, performing over preaching, and ghostwritten sermons
01:04:57 - Good things we see in the Multisite Mega Church
01:10:04 - Our Big Concerns About the Multisite Mega Church Today
01:29:14 - Mean and Arrogant Christian Responses To church hurt, spiritual abuse, and sin in the church.
01:37:21 - Financial Concerns in the Multisite Mega Church
01:41:51 - Our BIGGEST CONCERN with the MultiSite Mega Church!
01:48:30 - The Political Entanglement Problem
01:50:24 - Diversity issues in the mega church
01:52:37 - Celebrity culture in the multisite mega church
01:56:18 - Thinking about the Future of the Church
02:02:44 - Leaving with both Hope an Trepidation...
02:05:02 - Is the Multisite Mega Church a Failed Experiment? (Our Answer)

Oct 3, 2023 • 1h 58min
008: DON'T TRUST Your Pastor!!!
There's a reason you should not trust your pastor, and it's Biblical! Unfortunately, most Christians are unaware of this and believe they are supposed to trust their pastor implicitly. Many Christians today falsely believe it's dishonoring to ask your pastor questions. Unfortunately, that viewpoint couldn't be farther from Biblical truth! The truth is you can question on your pastor and show more honor by doing so!
In this episode of the Church Disrupted Podcast, Jeff Cochran, Shawn Reece, and Buck Flemming dive into this topic and show you why not trusting your pastor is actually a good and godly thing! When we learn this, church hurt, and spiritual abuse will decrease sharply in the church!
So, if you're tired of church hurt, spiritual abuse, manipulative leaders, narcissism in the church, and moral scandals in the news from prominent Christian leaders, then this episode is for you. Give it a listen, and you will leave better and better equipped.
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Sep 26, 2023 • 1h 52min
007: The Church Needs More HOT People... Especially on Stage!!!
People today have A LOT of opinions of the Church; unfortunately, most are not very good. WHY?! Culture has a negative view of the church because we are missing something vital! And what we are missing might surprise you. The good news is that what the church is missing is easy to find and put into practice. It just takes intentionality and commitment. Sadly, without it, we are in trouble.
In this episode of the Church Disrupted podcast, Jeff Cochran and the crew discuss the one thing that the American Church needs most if we are going to reach this generation. You will laugh, you will be surprised, and you will be challenged to think differently. If that sounds good to you, then join us for episode 007 of the Church Disrupted Podcast!
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TIMESTAMPS:
00:00- Intro
02:44 - Thank You's and Shout Outs
09:10 - Introducing the HOT Church Concept!
10:41 - Why HOT Matters
24:00 - Why Pastors and Church leaders struggle to stay HOT
41:09 - Where Pastors and Church leaders struggle with honesty, openness, and transparency
1:21:54 - Weaponizing Scripture
1:29:17 - Why the Church needs more HOT people in the the pews
1:37:27 - A HOT pastor example and Thanking Church leaders who fight for honesty
1:39:40 - A message to those out of church right now
1:40:22 - Modeling HOT Church leadership
1:42:44 - When Fear of being Cancelled keeps us from being HOT
1:47:43 - The Only Opinions that Matter
1:48:54 - Landing the plane and closing thoughts from the hosts

Sep 19, 2023 • 1h 36min
006: Common LIES That Christians Believe About Church Hurt and Spiritual Abuse!!!
In Episode 006 of the Church Disrupted Podcast, we expose the common lies that people believe about church hurt and spiritual abuse. These lies keep us stuck in the cycle of abuse and unable to heal or move forward. The truth is we need to recognize these lies before we can begin moving toward healing.
We also highlight the difference between church hurt and spiritual abuse, and how both can have a significant impact on individuals. We show you how to get support and also mention a couple of organizations that can provide assistance in your healing process. The episode aims to provide validation and support for those who have experienced church hurt and spiritual abuse, and we do our best to create awareness about the importance of addressing these often overlooked issues within the church community.
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Sep 12, 2023 • 2h 9min
005: What the REAL Church Looks Like AND the Power that Comes When the People of God Act Like the Church!
The Church is NOT a building. It's NOT an event. And it's DEFINITELY NOT an organization or business. The Church IS the people of God! And when the real Church shows up, there's no greater force for good in the world. Sadly, though, most people think of things like politics, judgment, big organizations, manipulation, and abuse when they think of the church. These bad actors are giving a bad name to Christians everywhere and harming the reputation of God's church and Christianity in culture.
In episode 005 of the Church Disrupted Podcast, we share stories about the Real Church stepping up and loving like Jesus. We celebrate God's people and the difference the Church can make when we walk in love. The only question is, will you be part of the Real Church going forward? Our prayer is that you say YES!
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