
The Unlearning Ableism Podcast
Join hosts Celia & Jamie as they help you unlearn ableism.
Latest episodes

May 29, 2025 • 1h 1min
Mindful Access
Join us as we talk all things accessibility, ableism, mental health and internalised ableism, as we welcome the absolutely incredible Dustin Giannelli.
Dustin is the CEO and Founder of HearsDustin.com, a consultancy focused on creating more inclusive and accessible workplaces.

Mar 21, 2025 • 1h 1min
Rewriting Ableism
In this engaging conversation, Tiffany A. Yu, author and CEO of Diversability, shares her insights on the journey to dismantle ableism. She discusses her newly published 'The Anti-Ablist Manifesto' and the importance of community connections in advocating for deeper inclusion. Charlotte Williams, Social Value Manager at PSR, joins her to explore employment opportunities for disabled talent, highlighting innovative recruitment strategies that promote diversity. They celebrate success stories and emphasize the vital role of advocacy in fostering a more inclusive society.

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Feb 21, 2025 • 1h
Swipe Left On Ableism
Victoria Jenkins, an adaptive fashion expert and founder of Unhidden, joins the discussion to revolutionize the fashion industry for people with disabilities. She passionately shares insights on how adaptive clothing fosters confidence and self-expression. The conversation dives into the nuances of dating and relationships, exploring the unique challenges disabled individuals face in online dating. Jenkins emphasizes the importance of accessibility and authenticity, advocating for a more inclusive and understanding approach to love and interpersonal connections.

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Feb 3, 2025 • 1h
Defying Ableism
Mhairi Harris, a Tesco Media employee and Rare Diseases Advocate with hypophosphatasia, shares her powerful insights on defying ableism. She discusses the emotional challenges of managing a rare disease and the significance of self-advocacy. Mhairi highlights the importance of open dialogue in professional spaces and her journey towards redefining identity amid societal norms. The conversation explores navigating anxiety, the necessity of community support, and ways to foster inclusive environments for disabled individuals.

Jan 17, 2025 • 1h 38min
The Unlearning Ableism Podcast - Episode 6
Join neurodivergent advocate Nathan Chung, who brings his lived experiences of autism and ADHD, alongside entrepreneur Lu Castello, who champions mental health and non-binary identities. They discuss the significance of the International Day of Persons with Disabilities, advocating for visibility and inclusion in tech. The conversation dives into the challenges faced by neurodiverse individuals, critiques traditional workplace structures, and emphasizes the power of grassroots movements to combat ableism. Celebrate progress and learn how purple socks symbolize support for disability rights!

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Jan 17, 2025 • 1h
The Unlearning Ableism Podcast - Episode 5
Montreece Payton-Hardy, Director of Inclusion, Diversity, and Equity at the American Printing House for the Blind, is a blind, low vision, Black, neuro-spicy woman. In this conversation, she dives deep into ableism and recruitment, emphasizing the importance of inclusivity in employment for disabled talent. Montreece shares her empowering perspective on being neurodiverse, while discussing the challenges faced by individuals with intersecting identities. The discussion also highlights the need for personal responsibility in educating oneself about disability and social justice.

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Oct 14, 2024 • 60min
The Unlearning Ableism Podcast - Episode 4
Bailey Smith, a Sustainability Manager and DEI Consultant, sheds light on unlearning ableism in professional settings. The conversation dives into her journey as a disabled, neurodivergent professional and the challenges of navigating internalized ableism in the workplace. Bailey emphasizes the importance of authentic inclusivity and representation in the environmental sector. She advocates for meaningful discussions about disability rights and encourages listeners to challenge their biases while promoting diverse voices in all industries.

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Aug 29, 2024 • 1h 2min
The Unlearning Ableism Podcast - Episode 3
Join Jodie Greer, Founder & CEO of Be #PeopleSmart, as she dives deep into the importance of disability inclusion and allyship. She shares insights on overcoming the fears of making mistakes while advocating for the disabled community. The conversation highlights the need for genuine engagement in corporate environments and celebrates the spirit of Disability Pride Month. Jodie emphasizes the significance of ongoing support and the challenges of tokenism, urging allies to stay committed year-round to meaningful change.

Aug 13, 2024 • 60min
The Unlearning Ableism Podcast - Episode 2
Celia and Jamie are joined by the incredible Seema Flower, Managing Director of Blind Ambition, a Visual Awareness & Disabilities Consultancy with a difference. Let's make the uncomfortable, comfortable.

Jul 29, 2024 • 1h 1min
The Unlearning Ableism Podcast - Episode 1
Celia and Jamie are joined by the sensational CEO and Founder of Evenbreak, Jane Hatton. Join them as they explore Disabled Talent, Disability Pride Month, and more... Let's make the uncomfortable, comfortable.