Psych Insights for Modern Marketers - The 3G Edition

Kevin Rogers
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Sep 8, 2025 • 1h 1min

EP10: Storytelling, Part 2, With Special Guest Star Laura Belgray!

Things got so outrageous and awesome last episode, that the guys decided the subject of storytelling in marketing required another round. And big bonus: Their first ever guest is the fabulous Laura Belgray, top-tier copywriter and acknowledged direct response Queen Of The Riveting Storyline That Is Also Hilarious. (She's essentially the Dorothy Parker of our time.) And the conversational storylines just in this episode prove her main point: That the best kind of "bonding by story" comes not from grandiose adventures... but from the small everyday kind of experiences that everyone can relate to. The mundane truth behind normal events in daily life can – when you know what you're doing – be woven into fun and intriguing tales that win over even skeptical prospects. What's more, the advantages of writing "fresh", rather than planning content ahead of your scheduled writing time, are simply mind blowing. Especially once you realize how simply telling the truth and tying in specific details are the foundation of the most compelling copy you'll ever produce. So much good stuff here. Tales of social failure in upscale NY clubs... committing unspeakable acts of "cake fraud" in restaurants... how the truth and specific details (slightly tweaked) bring stories to life... making yourself the butt of the joke to bring readers into the game (where they feel an actual relationship is developing)... and why the "loneliness" epidemic now raging in every society opens up amazing opportunities to create real communities online. Plus, you'll learn why it's your sacred duty to guide your readers through the secret worlds you create through honest, soul-baring and hyper-generous storytelling. Absolutely no writer with any self-respect should miss this episode.
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Sep 5, 2025 • 50min

EP09: Storytelling Masterclass

Discover the secret behind captivating storytelling that keeps audiences engaged and eager to listen. Explore how humor and personal experiences can elevate narratives in marketing. Dive into the essential elements of effective storytelling, focusing on emotional impact and immersive details. Hear personal anecdotes about triumphs and struggles in creative writing, and learn how mentorship plays a crucial role. Lastly, find joy in the complexities of life, turning everyday challenges into humorous tales that resonate with listeners.
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Sep 2, 2025 • 1h 3min

EP08: How To Raise A Bloodthirsty Copywriter

High level copywriters aren't born. They're made. Consciously, level-by-level of building on a love of writing, a rigorous study of classic salesmanship, and a deep desire to earn the Big Bucks without ever digging a real ditch. It's never been a brainless way to make a living, and the people who have sold copywriting as a get-rich-quick scheme are lying their ass off to you. (Same with the idiots trying to convince you that AI will replace all writers soon.) Still, it ain't rocket science, either. In this episode, you'll hear 3 generations of writers share how they arrived at writing copy as a career... plus how they broke through the initial challenges and setbacks. Probably the very same challenges and setbacks you experienced yourself, or soon will as you launch into the world of professional writing. Oh, you're about to be regaled by the horror stories these writers tell, and you'll see dollar signs in the tricks and secrets they learned while blundering their way through the early years. (Saving you the need to do your own blundering, so you can shortcut your success arc.) They also cover how to literally raise a young copywriter from knowing zilch about the craft... through the lessons offered at every turn growing up in this bizarre, wonked-out civilization we all live and raise kids in... and ultimately into a career where they'll never need to have a soul-grinding J O B, slaving away to make someone else rich. If you're a working copywriter, you'll learn things the top writers have been hiding from you. If you're still a wet-nosed rookie, you'll discover tactics and insight that will zoom you ahead of even veteran writers. And no – AI will never replace writers who learn how to think critically and work the angles only humans are devious enough to know. In case you were wondering...
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Aug 29, 2025 • 59min

EP07: Why You Suck At Hooks & Big Ideas

There is, in fact, a Big Idea for this very show: How hooks and big ideas actually work... ... and what the big secret is between merely grabbing attention... and turning your prospect into a cash-in-hand buyer, desperate for you to sell to them. John's always been known as "The Hook King", and oh boy: He dives in deep on how to identify, power-up, and carpet bomb your market with the kind of hooks that transform skeptics into eager fans. This includes the "origin story" for the most ripped-off ads in history... plus high-level insights to convincing clients to run with hooks that make them uncomfortable (the KEY to all the success enjoyed by the A-List copywriters). Also: The critical use of tabloids as a training tool for finding hooks (while learning why humans respond to such weirdness)... a much-needed Reality Check for any writer and especially for most biz owners, on who, exactly, you're actually gonna sell on any list... plus some pro-level insight to dealing with lawyers (whose main job is to say "no" to any copy that might actually work). And tons more. This is like sitting next to the best copywriters in the biz, getting them wasted on truth-telling serum, and then grilling them for the REAL secrets to their long-lasting success and happiness...
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Aug 27, 2025 • 55min

EP06: The Dirty Little Emotional Secret That Transforms Copy Instantly

Okay, actually empathy is THE major tool all top copywriters rely on the most. It's very different than sympathy too... so the Boys tear these emotional responses down to "toolkit basics", and you'll never look at your own feelings the same way again. It's like a scorched-earth rampage through the human brain, laying out how they've turned hazy (and universally misunderstood) emotional triggers into wicked-good tactics at persuading even the most hard-nosed skeptic and bringing them onboard as customers. Also: You'll learn an easy way to spot the sociopaths in your lives... how internal "breakthroughs" happen in your brain (which speeds up your power to adopt new strategies)... the "grocery store experiment" that creates instant connection among strangers (like, say, an ice cold list you want to mail)... the tricks to avoiding "compassion fatigue" as a writer constantly crawling inside prospects brains (it's scary as hell in there)... the shockingly easy trick for stone-cold introverts – which all 3 of these jokers are – to "mimic" extrovert behavior (and reap the outrageous benefits)... ... all of which opens up all kinds of amazing opportunities in your career, no matter what you do. That's just a taste of everything covered in this SINGLE episode... so dive in. What are you waiting for? We're not gonna tuck you in...
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Aug 21, 2025 • 1h 6min

EP05: Why The Pro's Laugh When AI Claims It's Coming For Their Job

Is artificial intelligence an actual threat to copywriters, or not? Scribes everywhere want to know if they need to learn another trade and let the robots move in. These three guys aren't scared at all. And even welcome the chaos being sown by so many clients believing AI has already solved every marketing problem for them... cuz this dumb-ass attitude boondoggling so many clueless biz owners just sets the stage for professional copywriters and consultants to waltz in and fix the mess. For massive fees. And that professional could be you. But... and it's a big but, too (no offense)... you gotta know what's actually happening out there with the robot assault on business. And what the most clever and experienced pros are doing to dominate every niche they enter. You'll feel much, much better about AI after joining the guys in this episode. And you'll be loaded with fresh, proven tools to thrive in the chaos afoot out there.
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Aug 21, 2025 • 1h 5min

EP04: Stop Screwing Around And Find Your Personal 'Groove' As A Copywriter Already

You know, of course, that top marketers and copywriters slip into a unique "zone" when they craft world-class ads and emails and social media posts, right? And you've probably been promised by all sorts of "experts" on how to enter your own zone and use it to make the Big Bucks. And it all probably bored the heck out of you, too. Psychologists love to take a simple brain process, and make it sound like you need a shaman and trippy drug rituals (plus maybe an expensive seminar or two) just to understand what you're after. Well, spending an hour inside this episode will fix all that, fast. Just learning how top writers like these guys developed their mojo and honed it into a daily working tool will give you every secret you need to get going immediately finding your own unique groove. And everything changes when you do.
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Aug 21, 2025 • 1h 15min

EP03: Why The Snake Oil Conmen and Braggarts and Phonies Will Always Lose To An Honest Adman

A little swagger, backed with the chops to back up all claims, will quickly set you apart from the crowd of big-mouthed wannabe's out there. But you still need to understand what makes your boasting competition tick... and why self-aggrandizement has a long and often very successful history in advertising... when done right. Done wrong, and all hell breaks loose. You're in for a rollicking ride in this episode, as the horror stories of clutching failure from the jaws of victory -- alongside the ever-changing rules of winning over skeptical prospects -- pile up over the hour. It's absolutely shocking how much capitalism wants to devour you alive while you're just trying to deliver a good product or service. You'll feel like you're elbow-to-elbow with the best in the biz here, listening to stories usually only shared amongst the elite. Enjoy, you lucky bastard.
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Aug 21, 2025 • 49min

EP02: How To Sell Without Being A Conniving Asshole

The boys go deep on how to be a normal, empathetic and honest human being... and still blow away all competition in the sales game. They've been doing it their entire careers, and anyone yearning to escape the horrors of the sociopathic sales models now dominating the marketing landscape is in for a wild hour of mind-blowing insights, tactics, strategies and tools. Oh, the fun waiting for you inside this 'cast...
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Aug 21, 2025 • 51min

EP01: An Urgent Dispatch From The Front Lines Of Direct Response Advertising: Please Listen Immediately.

Welcome to the most unique podcast in the entire business world. Three wildly different generations of copywriting and marketing legends – John Carlton (the geezer), Kevin Rogers (proud Gen Xer), and Daniel Throssell (the young buck)-- join forces to answer the burning questions now upsetting everyone out there trying to make a reasonable fortune. First, though, get up to speed in this episode with some deep insight on critical "get moving now" tools for any copywriter, entrepreneur, or biz owner... ... including the whacky psychology behind making the sale... how to navigate your own half-zombied-out "creative flow state"... the weird and colorful stagecraft that fuels the best writers... the importance of mentorship (even if you never meet them)... and how integrity and ethics will guide you through the bullshit piling up higher and higher in markets today. Yes, it's a lot, and yes, you're gonna love every minute of this 'cast. These guys are serious about helping you get your act together, blasting through all incoming obstacles, and thriving in your career. No matter what AI or the competition or your own freaked-out lizard brain throws at you. This episode lays down the gauntlet... and you'll never find a better group to follow if you love making the Big Bucks in business. It's nearly a freaking century of experience and wisdom, all packed into a tidy, magnificently entertaining podcast. And yes, they WILL address all incoming coherent and relevant questions from you.

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