
SEO in 2025
SEO is continuing to change at an alarming pace. And yet, in some sense, the principles of good SEO remain the same.
Hello, and welcome to SEO in 2025 – a significant repository of current thinking from many of the world’s leading SEOs.
We're pleased to be able to welcome you to the fourth book and fourth series in this podcast, now well and truly an annual tradition, brought to you by Majestic.
“Consider this book the Bible of SEO—a comprehensive, fresh, and highly actionable resource that sets the standard in the industry each year.”
PAM AUNGST CRONIN
President/Owner, PamAnnMarketing.com
“SEOin2025 is the best up-to-date, comprehensive resource out there to understand the main SEO trends and how to stay ahead next year.”
ALEYDA SOLIS
International SEO Consultant & Founder, Orainti
“I’ve been participating in this series for years now and have found the value to be consistently high!”
KEVIN INDIG
Growth Consultant, Kevin-Indig.com
“The ‘SEO in’ series has become my annual touchstone to get an overview of what some of the best in the industry are thinking.”
MARK WILLIAMS-COOK
Director, AlsoAsked/Candour
“The SEO in 2022, 2023, 2024 and now 2025 is by far my favorite way to refresh my SEO knowledge and get some inspiration before the new year. It is also super helpful for planning priorities or things to test in the following year. That's the book for December! Thank you for this initiative. I don't think this is definitely the best of the best books with SEO tips.”
OLGA ZARR
SEO Consultant at SEOSLY
“David's annual edition where the world’s leading SEOs share their number 1, actionable tip is an essential book for any digital marketer who wants to create actionable and valuable strategies for the year ahead and am honoured to be part of 2025's edition. The different skillsets of selected SEOs mean you'll be spoilt for choice on the different approaches to SEO and how they are valuable to you, your business and you clients.”
ALEX MOSS
Principal SEO, Yoast & Co-Founder, FireCask
“Once again, David has brought together some of the brightest minds in the industry and squeezed them together to produce raw, distilled insight. This is a must-read for anybody wanting to get ahead online.”
JONO ALDERSON
Independent Technical SEO Consultant
“The annual SEO book by Majestic and David is truly the ultimate SEO cheat code of the year! It's packed with timeless strategies and smart approaches—no shortcuts here, just solid insights for sustainable success. Whether you're a beginner or a seasoned pro, this book has something for everyone. I'm honoured to be part of a community of elite SEOs sharing our knowledge to help others succeed. This is a must-read!”
DRE DE VERA
Host/Producer, SEO Video Show
Latest episodes

Feb 29, 2024 • 14min
We are going to have to adapt extremely fast in 2024 - with Fabio Embalo
Fabio Embalo and David Bain discuss why ee are going to have to adapt extremely fast in 2024.Discussion points include:What do SEOs have to do differently?How does this impact the way that things are currently done?What has to be optimised to appear in SGE?How do you drive traffic from SGE?Should SEOs also be using AI in their own processes?Should SEOs also be using AI to create content?

Feb 28, 2024 • 21min
Become "Uncopyable" for SEO Success in 2024 - with Kerry Campion
In this episode, Kerry Campion discusses why it's important to become "uncopyable" for SEO success in 2024.Discussion points include:How do you become "uncopyable"?What’s an example of a strong brand messaging strategy?How do you lean heavily into your own customer stories and what value does that provide?How do you nurture relationships with thought leaders and what are you looking to achieve from that?Are internal or external thought leaders key?Are there any AI evolvements that you are nervous about from a content perspective?

Feb 27, 2024 • 14min
Make sure your content attracts the right audience and helps them convert - with Begum Kaya
Begum Kaya and David Bain discuss the importance of making sure your content attracts the right audience and helps them convert.We have endless opportunities to find the right topics, optimize the websites accordingly, and try to reap fruits before really understanding our audience. However, we've seen many examples where it doesn't mean anything beyond some text. Begum believes we have to move towards the communicative and humane side of things and build our voice rather than covering all we can that touches our niche on the internet.

Feb 26, 2024 • 15min
What does a post-SGE, AI influenced world mean for SEO? With Nik Ranger
Nik Ranger and David Bain discuss what a post-SGE, AI influenced world means for SEO.Discussion points include:How do you leverage natural language processing techniques for information retrieval?How do you leverage natural language processing techniques for text analysis?Why is it more important than ever to understand the mechanisms that underpin how and why results are displayed?What does this mean for SEO?How does this affect an SEO strategy?

Feb 23, 2024 • 17min
Focus on the end user only and understand WHY they are searching - with Eli Schwartz
Eli Schwartz and David Bain discuss why you need to focus on the end user only and understand WHY they are searching.Discussion points include:Why is this important?How do you find out why they are searching instead of what they are searching?What tools do you use to assist you with this?How do you alter your content to appeal to the why?Does this apply to every type of content?How does this interweave with other digital marketing activities?How does this change of focus impact the bottom line measurable?

Feb 22, 2024 • 14min
Be continuous and use a wide variety of SEO elements - with Amanda White
Amanda White and David Bain discuss how to be continuous and use a wide variety of SEO elements.Discussion points include:Surely you can’t work on everything at the same time?How do you identify who user is?How do you create a strategy around that?Should you not be prioritising the most impactful SEO activities?What are the well-trusted methods we shouldn’t be forgetting?How do you know when you should automate or use AI?How can SEO work more effectively with PR for greater success?How do you know what you need to adapt and change in your processes?

Feb 21, 2024 • 15min
The answers to your SEO problems lie in the SERPs - with Bart Magera (SEOin2024)
In this episode, Bart Magera shares that the answers to your SEO problems lie in the SERPs.Discussion points include:What answers are you looking for in the SERPs?How do you use the SERP to define opportunities?How have the SERPs changed recently?How do you use the SERP to form your SEO strategy?What are your thoughts on the future of the SERP?Read the full transcript of Bart's interview at https://majestic.com/seo-in-2024/additional-insights/bart-magera

Feb 20, 2024 • 16min
Rather than SEO, focus on HEO. "Human Engagement Optimization" - with Ken "Magma" Marshall
Ken "Magma" Marshall and David Bain discuss how rather than focusing on SEO, you should focus on HEO. "Human Engagement Optimization"Discussion points include:What is "Human Engagement Optimization"?How do you focus on creating web content with the user intent and needs in mind?Show should you use AI / ML?How do you know what your user or customer expects?How do you ensure that you are delivering excellent experiences?Why will Keyword data matter less?How do you get more sophisticated around attribution?How do you know which keywords have made a company most profitable?How do you measure "Human Engagement Optimization"?

Feb 19, 2024 • 16min
Understanding the limitations of AI based tools for SEO - Jan-Willem Bobbink
Jan-Willem Bobbink and David Bain discuss understanding the limitations of AI based tools for SEO.Discussion points include:What are the useless exercises are happening based on LLMs that are not suitable for it?What are the limitations of AI-based tools?What are the elements of SEO that go hand-in-hand with AI?What are the elements of SEO that don’t go hand-in-hand with AI?

Feb 16, 2024 • 17min
Mid-funnel is your strategic target - with Myriam Jessier
Myriam Jessier and David Bain discuss how mid-funnel is your strategic target.Discussion points include:What do you mean by mid-funnel?How do you identify Mid-funnel opportunities?What are good goals for Mid-funnel opportunities?Can you not work with both traditional marketing funnels and customer journey mapping?What are the typical touchpoints where SEO is overshadowed where search is critical?
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