
The Deep Dive
The Deep Dive is a culture and insights podcast with Philip McKenzie, an anthropologist who uses his expertise in culture to advise organizations on how best to thrive in an increasingly challenging and uncertain environment. Every week, Philip goes below the surface with the people who matter the most.
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Jan 25, 2024 • 1h 12min
Episode 176: Back to the Future w/ Indy Johar
Indy Johar, a visionary focused on the futures we can create together, joins for a thought-provoking conversation. They discuss reshaping governance to adapt to global challenges and emphasize interdependence over division. The dialogue explores the necessity of rethinking property ownership to foster community and ecological stewardship. They tackle identity complexities in a divided world and the urgent need for empathetic dialogue. Highlighting works that reshape our understanding of existence, they advocate for collaborative approaches to systemic change.

Dec 21, 2023 • 1h 1min
Episode 175: The Reality of Feminist Design w/ Alison Place
Philip spends time with Alison Place, scholar and editor of Feminist Designer: On the Personal and the Political in Design. In their conversation they discuss the myriad ways in which the values and ideas of feminist design influence and shape the design world.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
Alice Walker
Alison’s Drop:
Lean Back: Critical Feminist Conversations (podcast) Special Guest: Alison Place.

Dec 14, 2023 • 58min
Episode 174: Essential Work, Disposable Workers w/ Mostafa Henaway
Philip spends time with activist/community organizer and author Mostafa Henaway. They discuss his book Essential Work, Disposable Workers and how the precarity of late stage capitalism effects labor and the future of work.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
Mapping Abundance for a Planetary Future – Candace Fujikane
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-76-mapping-abundance-for-a-planetary-future/id1484558993?i=1000534789433
Mostafa’s Drop:
Border and Rule: Global Migration, Capitalism, and the Rise of Racist Nationalism

Dec 7, 2023 • 1h 7min
Episode 173: Handbook of Tyranny w/ Theo Deutinger
Philip spends time with architect and author Theo Deutinger as they break down his thought provoking and visually stunning book The Handbook of Tyranny.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
Happy Valley (S3) – AMC+
Theo’s Drop:
Constant’s New Babylon Mark Wigley (Book)Special Guest: Theo Deutinger.

Nov 30, 2023 • 58min
Episode 172: Constraints, Complexity & Context (Oh My!) w/ Alicia Juarrero
Philip spends time with educator/writer/philosopher Alicia Juarrero discussing her latest book Context Changes Everything: How Constraints Create Coherence. In their conversation, they cover how complexity has become a widely used but largely misunderstood term, the significance of context and different ways of knowing.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
Pluto (Netflix)
Alicia’s Drop:
A book by Antonio Benitez-Rojo called The Repeating Island Special Guest: Alicia Juarrero.

Nov 22, 2023 • 1h 1min
Episode 171: Of Black Study w/ Joshua Myers
Philip spends time with Howard University professor, scholar and author Joshua Myers. Their conversation focused on Joshua’s latest book, On Black Study a deeply engaging look at the history and meaning of Black scholarship, Black studies and its place within and beyond academia.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
Gangs of London
Joshua’s Drop:
Henry Taylor – B Side (exhibit)
Immanuel Wilkins – The 7th Hand
https://open.spotify.com/album/3OROcJURkOtf5sOitgchGD?si=57FzlkO2QKmT_zS7qR_ZdA

Nov 16, 2023 • 58min
Episode 170: Patagonia at 50: Reflections and Forward w/ Vincent Stanley
Philip spends time with Vincent Stanley, Chief Philosophy Officer, Patagonia. In their conversation they discuss his new book, co-authored with Patagonia’s CEO The Future of the Responsible Company. At the 50 year mark they take a look back at Patagonia’s journey but most importantly look forward to the challenges ahead.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
Say She She
Say She She – Silver
Say She She on Spotify
Vincent’s Drop:
John Fullerton – Capital Institute

Nov 9, 2023 • 52min
Episode 169: The Birth of Computer Vision w/ James E. Dobson
Philip spends time with James E. Dobson and discusses his latest work The Birth of Computer Vision. In their conversation, they trace the origins of computer vision as a concept and technology and how it effects the technological, economic and social structures of society
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
Hotel Portofino (PBS Masterpiece)
James’ Drop:
Unmasking AI – Joy Buolamwini
Pinc Louds Special Guest: James E. Dobson.

Oct 26, 2023 • 57min
Episode 168: Thinking Through Design Research w/ Joyce Yee & Paul A. Rodgers
Philip spends time with scholars and co-editors Joyce Yee & Paul A. Rodgers discussing the 2nd edition of The Routledge Companion to Design Research. In their conversation, they highlight why they felt a 2nd edition was needed, how they identified new voices and the current state of the field of design research.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop: The Speech:
The Story Behind Dr. Martin Luther King Jr’s Dream – Gary Younge
Joyce’s Drop:
Braiding Sweetgrass – Robin Wall Kimmerer
Paul’s Drop:
Design for the Unthinkable World (exhibit): https://www.k-ora.it/en/arte/mostre/design-for-the-unthinkable-world/Special Guests: Joyce Yee and Paul A. Rodgers.

Oct 19, 2023 • 1h 8min
Episode 167: Feminist Futures of Work w/ Usha Raman & Payal Arora
Philip spends time with scholars/thinkers/activist Usha Raman & Payal Arora. They are two of the co-editors of Feminist Futures of Work: Reimagining Labour in the Digital Economy. In this conversation, they cover the meaning of work (and leisure) and how it intersects with feminist futures across different backgrounds and circumstances.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
American Museum of Natural History
Ushal’s Drop:
Women Talking (Amazon Prime)
Payal’s Drop:
The Swaddle (Instagram) Special Guests: Payal Arora and Usha Raman.