Philip welcomes historian and author Lauren Benton to the show to discuss her latest book They Called it Peace: Worlds of Imperial Violence. In their conversation, they explore how empire, small wars and plunder are key elements of how we think about peace.

The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.

Philip’s Drop:
Deadwood (HBO)

Lauren’s Drop:
The Gone Away World – Nick Harkaway