

The Deep Dive
Philip McKenzie
The Deep Dive is a culture and insights podcast with Philip McKenzie, an anthropologist who uses his expertise in culture to advise organizations on how best to thrive in an increasingly challenging and uncertain environment. Every week, Philip goes below the surface with the people who matter the most.
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Dec 24, 2025 • 1h 6min
Episode 244: Caught in the Streaming Wars w/ Charlotte Henry
Philip welcomes Charlotte Henry, media expert and author of Streaming Wars: How getting everything we wanted changed entertainment forever to the show. In their conversation, they trace how the rise and dominance of streaming has changed our viewing and listening habits.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
Foundation (Apple TV)
Fresh Meat (Amazon Prime)
Charlotte’s Drop:
Blue Lights (Britbox)
Mythic Quest (Apple TV)

Dec 18, 2025 • 1h 4min
Episode 243: Collaborating with the Enemy w/Adam Kahane
Philip welcomes back Adam Kahane to the show. In this conversation they discuss the updated edition of one of his seminal works Collaborating with the Enemy: How to Work with People You Don’t Agree with or Like or Trust. Their exploration couldn’t be more timely given the increased polarization across many parts of society.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
Flora & Son (Apple+)
Adam’s Drop:
The Big Lebowski Special Guest: Adam Kahane.

Dec 11, 2025 • 60min
Episode 242: The Positive Obsession of Octavia E. Butler
Philip welcomes Susana M. Morris, author of Positive Obsession: The Life and Times of Octavia E. Butler to the show. In their conversation, they discuss the generational impact and influence of Octavia E. Butler and her singular place in the pantheon of writers.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
Maigret (PBS/Masterpiece)
Susana’s Drop:
Abbott Elementary (Hulu/Disney+)

Dec 4, 2025 • 1h 12min
Episode 241: Man Up and the New Misogyny w/ Cynthia Miller-Idriss
Philip welcomes Cynthia Miller-Idriss, author of Man Up: The New Misogyny & the Rise of Violent Extremism. In their conversation, they explore how misogyny operates across various spectrums to create and spread violent extremism.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
40 Acres (Disney+)
Cynthia’s Drop:
Pet – Akwaeke Emezi Special Guest: Cynthia Miller-Idriss.

Nov 19, 2025 • 1h 5min
Episode 240: The Studio & Design Education w/ James Corazzo, Colin M. Gray & Derek Jones
Philip welcomes James Corazzo, Colin M. Gray and Derek Jones co-authors of Studio Properties: A Field Guide to Design Education to the show. In their conversation, they discuss the physical and non-physical reality of the Studio and what it means for the future of design education.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
Ride (Disney+/Hulu)
James’ Drop:
Dancing at the Edge of the World – Ursula K. LeGuin
Colin’s Drop:
Knife’s Edge: Chasing Michelin Stars (AppleTV)
Derek’s Drop:
The Expanding University – William Roy Niblett Special Guests: Colin M. Gray, Derek Jones, and James Corazzo.

Nov 13, 2025 • 1h 5min
Episode 239: Naturekind & Thinking Beyond the Human w/ Melissa Leach & James Fairhead
Philip welcomes Melissa Leach & James Fairhead, authors of Naturekind: Language, Culture & Power Beyond the Human. In their conversation, they discuss the reality of a more expansive view of language and culture to include non-human life and how human dominance effects our relationships with the world.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
Thank You, Everything – Icinori
Melissa’s Drop:
“Hope”
Is a River Alive? – Robert MacFarlane
James’ Drop:
Auguries of Innocence – William Blake

Nov 6, 2025 • 1h 8min
Episode 238: Goliath’s Curse w/ Luke Kemp
Philip welcomes Luke Kemp, the author of the bestselling work, Goliath’s Curse: The History and Future of Societal Collapse. In their conversation they dissect Luke’s thesis on what collapse means and how its impact is unevenly distributed and how it has changed over the centuries now we live in a “global goliath”.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
https://www.scottmccloud.com/2-print/4-zot/index.html
Luke’s Drop:
Merhcants of Doubt – Naomi Oreskes/Erik Conway
Against the Grain – James C. Scott
Gangster States: Organized Crime, Kleptocracy and Political Collapse – Katherine Hirschfeld Special Guest: Luke Kemp.

Oct 23, 2025 • 1h 2min
Episode 237: The Connected Leader w/ Emmanuel Gobillot
Philip welcomes Emmanuel Gobillot, author of The Connected Leader to the show. In their conversation, they discuss the inherent paradoxes that make up leadership roles and how one builds consensus and creates trust.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
Martyr – Kaveh Akbar
Emmanuel’s Drop:
The Secret of Secrets – Dan Brown Special Guest: Emmanuel Gobillot.

Oct 16, 2025 • 51min
Episode 236: Crisis of Leadership w/ Steve Wyatt
Philip welcomes Steve Wyatt, author of Antidote to the Crisis of Leadership to the show. In their conversation, they connect whether the crisis of leadership is real or imagined and more acute in these times versus others.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
House of Guinness (Netflix)
Steve’s Drop:
Lost in Transformation – Rupert BrownSpecial Guest: Steve Wyatt.

Oct 9, 2025 • 51min
Episode 235: The Art of Design Strategy w/ Garkay Wong
Philip welcomes Garkay Wong, author of The Art of Design Strategy to the show. In their conversation, they explore the future of design innovation and what are the key structural challenges and opportunities in the design discipline.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
Godwin – Joseph O’Neill
Garkay’s Drop:
K-Pop Demon Hunters (Netflix) Special Guest: Garkay Wong.


