
The Deep Dive
The Deep Dive is a culture and insights podcast with Philip McKenzie, an anthropologist who uses his expertise in culture to advise organizations on how best to thrive in an increasingly challenging and uncertain environment. Every week, Philip goes below the surface with the people who matter the most.
Latest episodes

Feb 22, 2024 • 58min
Episode 180: After One Hundred Winters w/ Margaret D. Jacobs
Philip welcomes historian Margaret D. Jacobs author of One Hundred Winters: In Search of Reconciliation on America’s Stolen Lands. In their conversation, they discuss the history of stolen lands in the foundation of America and the possibility of reconciliation against the colonial settler legacy.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
Engage deeply with Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
https://www.harvard.com/book/a_testament_of_hope_the_essential_writings_and_speeches_of_martin_luther_ki/
https://ccsre.stanford.edu/publications/essential-martin-luther-king-jr
Margaret’s Drop:
The Rediscovery of America – Ned Blackhawk https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300244052/the-rediscovery-of-america/

Feb 15, 2024 • 1h 16min
Episode 179: Blood in the Machine w/ Brian Merchant
Philip welcomes columnist/writer Brian Merchant to the show to discuss his latest book, Blood in the Machine. In their conversation they trace the history of the Luddite movement and how it connects to the current pushback against Silicon Valley and tech titans.Special Guest: Brian Merchant.

Feb 8, 2024 • 56min
Episode 178: New Bones Abolition w/ Joy James
Philip welcomes back Joy James to The Deep Dive to discuss her latest book New Bones Abolition: Captive Maternal and the (after)life of Erica Garner. In their conversation, they discuss the power and scope of the abolition movement, the dismissal of Harvard President Claudine Gay and more.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop: Scalawag https://scalawagmagazine.org/
Joy’s Drop: Special Guest: Dr. Joy James.

Feb 1, 2024 • 1h 17min
Episode 177: We Are Not Users w/ Eswaran Subrahmanian & Yoram Reich
Philip spends time with the authors of We Are Not Users exploring the importance of our being human against the disembodied narrative of people merely as “users” of technology and services.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
High on the Hog (Netflix)
Bye Bye Barry (Amazon Prime)
Sub’s Drop:
Everything, Everywhere All At Once
Mr. Palomar – Italo Cavino
Enjoying Cookbooks
Yoram’s Drop:
Rashomon
Getting out and listening to Live JazzSpecial Guests: Eswaran Subrahmanian and Yoram Reich.

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Jan 25, 2024 • 1h 12min
Episode 176: Back to the Future w/ Indy Johar
Indy Johar, a visionary focused on the futures we can create together, joins for a thought-provoking conversation. They discuss reshaping governance to adapt to global challenges and emphasize interdependence over division. The dialogue explores the necessity of rethinking property ownership to foster community and ecological stewardship. They tackle identity complexities in a divided world and the urgent need for empathetic dialogue. Highlighting works that reshape our understanding of existence, they advocate for collaborative approaches to systemic change.

Dec 21, 2023 • 1h 1min
Episode 175: The Reality of Feminist Design w/ Alison Place
Philip spends time with Alison Place, scholar and editor of Feminist Designer: On the Personal and the Political in Design. In their conversation they discuss the myriad ways in which the values and ideas of feminist design influence and shape the design world.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
Alice Walker
Alison’s Drop:
Lean Back: Critical Feminist Conversations (podcast) Special Guest: Alison Place.

Dec 14, 2023 • 58min
Episode 174: Essential Work, Disposable Workers w/ Mostafa Henaway
Philip spends time with activist/community organizer and author Mostafa Henaway. They discuss his book Essential Work, Disposable Workers and how the precarity of late stage capitalism effects labor and the future of work.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
Mapping Abundance for a Planetary Future – Candace Fujikane
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-76-mapping-abundance-for-a-planetary-future/id1484558993?i=1000534789433
Mostafa’s Drop:
Border and Rule: Global Migration, Capitalism, and the Rise of Racist Nationalism

Dec 7, 2023 • 1h 7min
Episode 173: Handbook of Tyranny w/ Theo Deutinger
Philip spends time with architect and author Theo Deutinger as they break down his thought provoking and visually stunning book The Handbook of Tyranny.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
Happy Valley (S3) – AMC+
Theo’s Drop:
Constant’s New Babylon Mark Wigley (Book)Special Guest: Theo Deutinger.

Nov 30, 2023 • 58min
Episode 172: Constraints, Complexity & Context (Oh My!) w/ Alicia Juarrero
Philip spends time with educator/writer/philosopher Alicia Juarrero discussing her latest book Context Changes Everything: How Constraints Create Coherence. In their conversation, they cover how complexity has become a widely used but largely misunderstood term, the significance of context and different ways of knowing.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
Pluto (Netflix)
Alicia’s Drop:
A book by Antonio Benitez-Rojo called The Repeating Island Special Guest: Alicia Juarrero.

Nov 22, 2023 • 1h 1min
Episode 171: Of Black Study w/ Joshua Myers
Philip spends time with Howard University professor, scholar and author Joshua Myers. Their conversation focused on Joshua’s latest book, On Black Study a deeply engaging look at the history and meaning of Black scholarship, Black studies and its place within and beyond academia.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
Gangs of London
Joshua’s Drop:
Henry Taylor – B Side (exhibit)
Immanuel Wilkins – The 7th Hand
https://open.spotify.com/album/3OROcJURkOtf5sOitgchGD?si=57FzlkO2QKmT_zS7qR_ZdA
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