
The Deep Dive
The Deep Dive is a culture and insights podcast with Philip McKenzie, an anthropologist who uses his expertise in culture to advise organizations on how best to thrive in an increasingly challenging and uncertain environment. Every week, Philip goes below the surface with the people who matter the most.
Latest episodes

May 9, 2024 • 1h 5min
Episode 190: Combee, Harriet Tubman & Black Freedom w/ Dr. Edda L. Fields-Black
Philip welcomes Dr. Edda L. Fields-Black to discuss her new book , COMBEE: Harriet Tubman, the Combahee River Raid, and Black Freedom during the Civil War. In their conversation they explore the historical impact of enslaved Blacks on the wealth creation of the South and the legacy of Harriet Tubman in the fight against slavery and the Confederacy.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop: Our Living World (Netflix)
Dr. Edda's Drop:
6/2/24 COMBEE Book Event at Middleton Place in Charleston, SC
5/8/13 Event at Charleston Library SocietySpecial Guest: Dr. Edda L. Fields-Black.

May 2, 2024 • 1h 33min
Episode 189: The AI Dilemna w/ Juliette Powell & Sean Gayle
Philip welcomes long time friends and deep thinkers Juliette Powell & Sean Gayle to the show. In our conversation we discuss Juliette’s book The AI Dilemna: 7 Principles for Responsible Technology. Collectively we engage to parse and dissect the way AI and Big Tech are moving in the world of culture and society.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
Fallout (Amazon Prime)
Juliette’s Drop:
Unmasking AI – Joy Buolamwini
Sean’s Drop:
[Yeyeo.com](YouTube.com/yeyeobotanica)Special Guests: Juliette Powell and Sean Gayle .

Apr 25, 2024 • 54min
Episode 188: Cultural Intelligence for Marketers w/ Dr. Anastasia Karklina Gabriel
Philip welcomes 2x guest Dr. Anastasia Karklina Gabriel back to The Deep Dive to discuss the release of her first book: Cultural Intelligence for Marketers. In their conversation they discuss cultural fluency, the multiplicity of identity, and whether marketers are ready to embrace cultural intelligence.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
Brandy Hellville & the Cult of Fast Fashion (HBO Max)
American Fiction (Paramount/MGM+)
Anastasia’s Drop:
Big Brands Are Watching You: Marketing Social Justice and Digital Culture Francesca SobandeSpecial Guest: Dr. Anastasia Kārkliņa Gabriel.

Apr 18, 2024 • 54min
Episode 187: Everest Inc & Climbing Culture w/ Will Cockrell
Philip welcomes Will Cockrell climber/author to The Deep Dive to discuss how book Everest Inc. In their conversation, they explore the sometimes harsh realities behind the growing climbing industry and how Mt. Everest in particular has become the epicenter of the global climbing rush.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
(Constellation (AppleTV+))[https://www.imdb.com/title/tt19395018/]
Will’s Drop:
(Free Solo (Disney+))[https://films.nationalgeographic.com/free-solo]
(The Alpinist)[https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11790780/]
(Sherpa (Amazon Prime))[https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3746250/]
(Fourteen Peaks (Netflix))[ https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14079374/]Special Guest: Will Cockrell.

Apr 11, 2024 • 1h 21min
Episode 186: When the World Is A Bezzle w/ Cory Doctorow
Cory Doctorow, a renowned science fiction author and activist, dives into the themes of his recent works, 'The Bezzle' and 'The Internet Con.' He explores the dark complexities of financial scams in Silicon Valley through a noir lens, shedding light on systemic corruption. The conversation also navigates the interplay of meritocracy, privilege, and luck in success, while highlighting the urgent need for trust in institutions. Doctorow advocates for fair competition in the tech landscape and discusses the societal costs of digital dependency, calling for collective action against climate change.

Apr 4, 2024 • 1h 22min
Episode 185: Hodge Podge, Gaps & Cracks w/ Dan Hill
Philip welcomes Dan Hill, Director, Melbourne School of Design to the show and they take a rambling journey through the worlds of architecture, design, music and all the gaps and cracks they can manage.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
Shogun (FX/Hulu)
Dan’s Drop:
The Man Who Died
Smoke and Ashes – Amitav Ghosh

Mar 21, 2024 • 58min
Episode 184: They Called It Peace w/ Lauren Benton
Philip welcomes historian and author Lauren Benton to the show to discuss her latest book They Called it Peace: Worlds of Imperial Violence. In their conversation, they explore how empire, small wars and plunder are key elements of how we think about peace.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
Deadwood (HBO)
Lauren’s Drop:
The Gone Away World – Nick Harkaway

Mar 14, 2024 • 59min
Episode 183: Resisting Racial Capitalism w/ Ida Danewid
Philip welcomes lecturer and author Ida Danewid to the show to discuss her work Resisting Racial Capitalism. In their conversation, they explore Ida’s scholarship and how it confronts the way we think of racial capitalism and challenge our current governing structures and organizations.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
Superstore (Peacock)
Ida’s Drop:
Stolen – Ann-Helen Laestadius

Mar 7, 2024 • 53min
Episode 182: Design Social Change w/ Lesley-Ann Noel
Philip welcomes design scholar Lesley-Ann Noel back to The Deep Dive to discuss her latest book Design Social Change. In their conversation they discuss how design intentionally done can be a catalyst for driving social change.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
The Creator (Hulu)
Sy Smith – Until We Meet Again
Lesley-Ann’s Drop:
The Color Purple (HBO Max)
The Will to Change: Men, Masculinity and Love – bell hooks
The Descent of Men – Grayson Perry Special Guest: Dr. Lesley-Ann Noel.

Feb 29, 2024 • 54min
Episode 181: Disneyland on the Mountain w/ Greg Glasgow & Kathryn Mayer
Philip welcomes authors Greg Glasgow & Kathryn Mayer to discuss their book Disneyland on the Mountain. Their conversation examines Disney at a remarkable time in its history and how its ambition helped launch the modern environmental movement.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
Snabba Cash (Netflix)
Greg’s Drop:
The Holdovers
Kathryn’s Drop:
Behind the Attraction (Disney+) Special Guest: Greg Glasgow & Kathryn Mayer.
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