The Deep Dive

Philip McKenzie
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Feb 6, 2025 • 1h 7min

Episode 212: Multisolving in a Fractured World w/ Dr. Elizabeth Sawin

Philip welcomes Dr. Elizabeth Sawin the author of Multisolving: Creating Systems Change in a Fractured World. Their conversation covers how myriad and overlapping problems require a drastically different approach. The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings. Philip’s Drop: The Deluge – Stephen Markley  Elizabeths Drop: https://www.edx.org/certificates/professional-certificate/wisconsinx-psychology-of-deep-resilience
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Jan 30, 2025 • 1h 4min

Episode 211: Welcome to the Creative Club w/ Pia Leichter

Philip welcomes Pia Leichter, founder of the Kollektiv Studio and author of Welcome to the Creative Club. In our conversation, we explore what it means to be creative and the implications when we expand its meaning and importance. The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings. Philip’s Drop: Creature Commandos (Max) Pia’s Drop: I Do Everything I’m Told – Megan Fernandes Special Guest: Pia Leichter.
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Jan 23, 2025 • 58min

Episode 210: Reckoning with Mass Incarceration w/ Kevin B. Smith

Philip welcome Kevin B. Smith author of The Jailer’s Reckoning: How Mass Incarceration is Damaging America. In their conversation, they trace the myriad reasons why America, a leading democracy, also imprisons more people than any other country on Earth. The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings. Philip’s Drop: The Language of Things – Deyan Sudjic Kevin’s Drop: James – Percival Everett
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Jan 15, 2025 • 1h 6min

Episode 209: Thinking About A Human Economy w/ Indy Johar

Indy Johar, a key thinker in human economy and frequent podcast guest, joins to explore a new vision for our economic future. He discusses the need to integrate human values with advanced technologies, warning against the risks of power centralization. The conversation critiques modern economic systems for neglecting environmental costs and promotes radical rethinking of value in sustainable contexts. They also touch on media recommendations that challenge the status quo, urging listeners to engage with complex societal narratives.
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Dec 19, 2024 • 59min

Episode 208: Morningside and the Greensboro Massacre w/ Aran Shetterly

Philip welcomes Aran Shetterly, author of Morningside: The 1979 Greensboro Massacre and the Struggle for an American City’s Soul. In their conversation, they go through the historical Greensboro Massacre and what it meant for the post Civil Rights era and the dawn of the Reagan era. The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings. Philip’s Drop: C.B Strike (HBO Max) Aran’s Drop: Dark Winds (AMC) Portraits of Peacemakers – edited by Robert Shetterly Special Guest: Aran Shetterly .
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Dec 12, 2024 • 45min

Episode 207: What Design Can’t Do w/ Silvio Lorusso

Philip welcomes Silvio Lorusso to talk about his book What Design Can’t Do. In their conversation, they examine how design as a practice has changed and often fails to addresses larger social and economic issues. The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings. Philip’s Drop: Quincy Jones Discography Silvio’s Drop: Nick Cave Discography
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Dec 5, 2024 • 58min

Episode 206: Love’s Braided Dance w/ Norman Wirzba

Philip welcome Norman Wirzba, back to The Deep Dive for his third appearance. He’s back to discuss his latest book Love’s Braided Dance. In their conversation, they discuss how love factors into our ability to solve pressing problems and build richer The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings. Philip’s Drop: Vichy France: Old Guard and New Guard 1940 – 1944 – Robert O. Paxton Cobra (Amazon Prime) Norman’s Drop: Playground – Richard Powers Van der Walk (Amazon Prime/PBS Masterpiece) Special Guest: Norman Wirzba.
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Nov 21, 2024 • 1h 4min

Episode 205: Running Out of Everything w/ Peter S. Goodman

Philip welcomes global economic correspondent for The New York Times Peter S. Goodman to the show to discuss his new book How The World Ran out of Everything: Inside the Global Supply Chain. In this conversation they look at the fragility of the global supply chain and what it means for our long term economic, social and political stability. The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings. Philip’s Drop: The Shadow Strays (Netflix) Peter’s Drop: Stax: Soulsville U.S.A (HBO//Max) Special Guest: Peter S. Goodman.
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Nov 7, 2024 • 57min

Episode 204: Making New Worlds w/ Aida Mariam Davis

Philip welcomes writer/scholar Aida Mariam Davis to discuss her latest book Kindred Creation: Parables and Paradigms for Freedom. In their wide ranging conversation they explore how building ties of kinship and surfacing varying knowledge systems can make new worlds possible. The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings. Philip’s Drop: Sunny (Apple TV) Aida’s Drop: Soldier: A Poet’s Childhood – June Jordan Special Guest: Aida Mariam Davis.
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Oct 31, 2024 • 53min

Episode 203: Leadership & Making a Masterpiece w/ Charles Spinosa

Philip welcome Charles Spinosa, author Leadership As Masterpiece Creation to The Deep Dive. In their conversation, they discuss what it means to be a leader, how we organize ourselves and what it looks like when masterpiece language and thinking applies itself to our work. The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings. Philip’s Drop: SupaCell (Netflix) Charles’s Drop: Eve of St. Crispin’s Day (Speech – Youtube) Special Guest: Charles Spinosa.

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