Philip welcomes Dr. Elizabeth Sawin the author of Multisolving: Creating Systems Change in a Fractured World. Their conversation covers how myriad and overlapping problems require a drastically different approach.

The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.

Philip’s Drop:
The Deluge – Stephen Markley 

Elizabeths Drop:
https://www.edx.org/certificates/professional-certificate/wisconsinx-psychology-of-deep-resilience