

The Deep Dive
Philip McKenzie
The Deep Dive is a culture and insights podcast with Philip McKenzie, an anthropologist who uses his expertise in culture to advise organizations on how best to thrive in an increasingly challenging and uncertain environment. Every week, Philip goes below the surface with the people who matter the most.
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Oct 21, 2021 • 59min
Episode 82: Our Malady and On Tyranny Revisited: A Conversation w/Timothy Snyder
In this conversation, Philip talks to Prof. Timothy Snyder and discuss his new book On Malady and revisit the themes of On Tyranny. They dissect the lack of freedom in modern American life and explore the themes of health, wellness and how to build a better future.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop: My Name is Pauli Murray
Songs in a Weary Throat – Pauli Murray
Timonthy’s Drop: America On Fire – Elizabeth Hinton Special Guest: Timothy Snyder.

Oct 14, 2021 • 56min
Episode 81: The Promise of Jam Cultures: A Conversation w/ Jitske Kramer
In this conversation, Philip talks to corporate anthropologist and author of Jam Cultures and Corporate Tribe, Jitske Kramer. They breakdown the meaning of Jam Cultures and how the concepts play out in real life. They also explore the merit of anthropology to understand corporate culture.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop: Arlo Parks – Collasped in Sunbeams
Jitske’s Drop: The Good Ancestor - Roman Krznaric

Oct 7, 2021 • 59min
Episode 80: Project Inkblot and Reimaging Design: A Conversation w/Boyuan Gao and Jahan Mantin
In this conversation, Philip talks to Boyuan Gao and Jahan Mantin, the co-founders of Project Inkblot a design education consultancy that partners with companies to build equitable products, services, and content. They discuss their origin story, what motivates them to re-think design, how they built their Design for Diversity (D4D) model and why designing “with” rather than “for” is a revolutionary act.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop: The Metaphors We Live By – George Lakoff & Mark Johnson
Boyuan’s Drop: Omar S
Jahan’s Drop: Luster – Raven Leilani Special Guests: Boyuan Gao and Jahan Mantin.

Sep 30, 2021 • 60min
Episode 79: A City Is Not a Computer: A Conversation w/ Shannon Mattern
In this conversation, Philip talks to Shannon Mattern, professor of anthropology at the New School for Social Research and the author of A City is Not a Computer: Other Urban Intelligences. In their conversation Philip and Shannon discuss the legacy of mechanical metaphors and how they influence the way we think about cities and the people who live in them.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
All Things Bill Withers
Shannon’s Drop:
Pollution is Colonialism – Max Liboiron
Walking Special Guest: Shannon Mattern.

Sep 23, 2021 • 1h 6min
Episode 78: Strategic Doing as a Practice; A Conversation w/ Ed Morrison
In this conversation, Philip talks to Ed Morrison, author of Strategic Doing: Ten Skills of Agile Leadership. Ed is also director of the Agile Strategy Lab at the University of North Alabama. In their conversation they discuss the origins of strategic doing, how it is applied in practical terms, their new work in Ecuador and how strategic doing can build collaboration toward a better future.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop: Jay-Z – The Blueprint
Dr. Foster
Available to view via Netflix
Ed’s Drop: Another Thin Man (based on original work by Dashiell Hammett)
DataStory by Nancy Duarte Special Guest: Ed Morrison.

Sep 16, 2021 • 59min
Episode 77: Sustainability as Usual is Dead: A Conversation w/ Raz Godelnik
In this conversation, Philip talks to Raz Godelnik, Assistant Professor of Strategic Design and Management at Parsons School of Design and author of Rethinking Corporate Sustainability in the Era of Climate Crisis: A Strategic Design Approach. In their conversation they discuss the current crisis climate and how the current narratives encourage “sustainability as usual” and what could be done about changing the story.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop: Blonde Roots – Bernardine Evaristo
Raz’s Drop: Sapiens: A Graphic History – Yuval Noah Harari
Raz’s Medium page
Book launch event Special Guest: Raz Godelnik.

Sep 9, 2021 • 1h 5min
Episode 76: Mapping Abundance for a Planetary Future: A Conversation w/ Prof. Candace Fujikane
In this conversation, Philip talks to Prof. Candace Fujikane the author of Mapping Abundance for a Planetary Future. In their conversation Philip and Candace discuss how maps are used in service to the colonial settler project, the implications for the movement for Hawaiian sovereignty and how abundance must be centered for a planetary future(s).
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
All things Sade
Candace’s Drop:
A Nation Rising: Hawaiian Movements for Life, Land, and Sovereignty Special Guest: Prof. Candace Fujikane.

Aug 26, 2021 • 1h 9min
Episode 75: How to Thrive in a World in Flux: A Conversation w/April Rinne
In this conversation, Philip talks to April Rinne, leading futurist and author of Flux: 8 Superpowers For Thriving In Constant Change. Philip and April dissect how we think about change, our relationship to time and how to define and use the “Flux” mindset.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
All things Anita Baker
April’s Drop:
Mr. Flux – Kyo MacLear
FLUX playlistSpecial Guest: April Rinne.

Aug 19, 2021 • 59min
Episode 74: Rogue Waves and Radical Change: A Conversation w/Jonathan Brill
In this conversation, Philip talks to Jonathan Brill, author of Rogue Waves and Managing Director at Resilient Growth Partners. Philip and Jonathan discuss the thought process behind rogue waves and how recognizing hard to fathom shifts could prepare your organization for the future.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
*Philip’s Drop: *Inglorious Empire: What the British Did to India – Shashi Tharoor
Jonathan’s Drop: Against the Gods: The Remarkable Story of Risk Peter L. Bernstein
The Price of Peace: Money, Democracy and the Life of John Maynard Keynes
The Chef’s Garden: A Modern Guide to Common and Unusual VegetablesSpecial Guest: Jonathan Brill.

Jul 29, 2021 • 1h 1min
Episode 73: Black Protest, Sports and The Kaepernick Effect: A Conversation w/ Dave Zirin
In this conversation, Philip talks to Dave Zirin, Sports Editor at The Nation Magazine and the author of The Kaepernick Effect. Philip and Dave discuss his new book and how Colin Kaepernick’s protest forms a bridge between the social activism of the past and a new generation of athletes using protests to shine the light on injustice.
*The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings. *
Philip’s Drop: Under the Influence of Giants – Self Titled
Dave’s Drop: Don Scavone “Willie On Glock” Special Guest: Dave Zirin.