

The Deep Dive
Philip McKenzie
The Deep Dive is a culture and insights podcast with Philip McKenzie, an anthropologist who uses his expertise in culture to advise organizations on how best to thrive in an increasingly challenging and uncertain environment. Every week, Philip goes below the surface with the people who matter the most.
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Dec 30, 2021 • 36min
Episode 92: Solidarity & North Stars - A Conversation for 2022
It is a special end of year episode and Philip is joined by several former guests and friends of The Deep Dive.
Each contributor answers two questions about building solidarity and community and their “North Star” for 2022.
It is an opportunity to listen to a diverse gathering of thinker and leaders sharing their ideas and inspirations as we head into a new year.
Jahan Marin
Lina Srivastava
Anjali Enjeti
Tim Stock
Alberto Barreiro
Ed Morrison
Rebecca Taylor
Francesca Birks
Dowshan Humzah
Marcela Sabino
Sanjay KhannaSpecial Guests: Alberto Barreiro, Anjali Enjeti , Dowshan Humzah, Ed Morrison, Francesca Birks, Jahan Mantin, Lina Srivastava, Marcela Sabino, Rebecca Taylor, Sanjay Khanna , and Tim Stock.

Dec 16, 2021 • 57min
Episode 91: A Life Lived Wild: A Conversation w/ Rick Ridgeway
In this conversation, Philip talks to outdoor adventurer, writer and advocate for sustainability and conservation initiatives Rick Ridegway. Rick is formerly VP of Environmental Affairs and then VP of Public Engagement at Patagonia, Inc. Philip and Rick discuss his new book Life Lived Wild: Adventures at the Edge of the Map and what lessons Rick has learned and in turn shared during his life living deeply with nature and wild spaces.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop: The Beatles Get Back (Disney+)
Rick’s Drop: Letters on Ethics – Seneca Special Guest: Rick Ridgeway.

Dec 9, 2021 • 60min
Episode 90: Rethinking Design & Shaping the Future: A Conversation w/ Dr. Lesley-Ann Noel
In this conversation, Philip talks to Dr. Lesley-Ann Noel, Assistant Professor, Dept. of Design Studies at North Carolina State. They discuss Dr. Noel’s career, her perspective on design, the need to decolonize the field, and how designers can rethink our current systems and structures.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
The Long Deep Grudge – Toni Gilpin
Lesley-Ann’s Drop:
Aurora Levins Morales
Medicine Stories
Pluriversal Book Club Special Guest: Dr. Lesley-Ann Noel.

Dec 2, 2021 • 57min
Episode 89: The Promise of Access: A Conversation w/Daniel Greene
In this conversation, Philip talks to Daniel Greene, Assistant Professor of Information Studies at the University of Maryland and the author of The Promise of Access: Technology, Inequality, and the Political Economy of Hope, Philip and Daniel discuss his new book and how our generally accepted ideas about technology as a poverty solve and the digital divide continue to drive our public policy and political imagination.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop: Seal https://open.spotify.com/artist/5GtMEZEeFFsuHY8ad4kOxv?si=ThtDcoSySgmOtxwZ9GxnfA
Daniel’s Drop: Big Love (HBO/HBO Max) https://www.hbo.com/big-love

Nov 26, 2021 • 55min
Episode 88: The Case for Post Growth: A Conversation w/ Tim Jackson
In this conversation, Philip talks ecological economist and writer Tim Jackson. Tim is the author of Post Growth- Life After Capitalism. Philip and Tim discuss his work against the backdrop of increasing social and financial precarity. They examine how viable future(s) can exist as an alternative to capitalism and what it takes to get there.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop: Emergence Magazine
Tim’s Drop: Tao Te Ching (A Book About the Way)– Lao Tzu Special Guest: Tim Jackson.

Nov 22, 2021 • 56min
Episode 87: Tending the Chef’s Garden: A Conversation w/Farmer Lee Jones
In this conversation, Philip talks to Farmer Lee Jones, the owner of the Jones family farm and author of The Chef’s Garden cookbook. The discuss his family’s journey in farming, adapting and using regenerative techniques to tend to the soil and grow bountiful crops and the importance of looking back to find new innovations.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop: In The Mood for Love
Farmer Lee Jones’s Drop: The Grapes of Wrath Special Guest: Lee Jones.

Nov 18, 2021 • 1h 5min
Episode 86: Welcome to the Raging 2020s: A Conversation w/ Alec Ross
In this conversation, Philip talks to New York Times bestselling author and former Senior Advisor for Innovation to the Secretary of State during the Obama administration Alec Ross. Philip and Alec discuss his new book The Raging 2020s and what growing unrest and anger means for the decade ahead and beyond.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop: Only Murders in the Building (available via Hulu)
Hip Hop at the End of the World Ernest Paniccioli -
Alec’s Drop: The Leopard Giuseppe Tomasi di Lampedusa Special Guest: Alec Ross.

Nov 11, 2021 • 55min
Episode 85: Talking About Nice White Ladies: A Conversation w/ Jessie Daniels
In this conversation, Philip talks to Jessie Daniels, the author of White Lies and the new book Nice White Ladies: The Truth about White Supremacy, Our Role in It, and How We Can Help Dismantle It. Over the course of the show they wrestle with the historical legacy of white supremacy, gender and its present day manifestation via white feminism, Karen’s and more.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop: What We Do In the Shadows
Jessie’s Drop: We’re Here
Nicole Sealey “Legendary (1)” Special Guest: Jessie Daniels.

Nov 4, 2021 • 1h 5min
Episode 84: Shoutin’ in the Fire: A Conversation w/Dante Stewart
In this conversation, Philip talks to author, scholar and speaker Dante Stewart. They dissect Dante’s work Shoutin’ in the Fire and trace his personal journey through church, identity and race and the broader messages for Blackness and America.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop:
Video Music Box --->
Video Music Box Wikipedia
Whoudini – Five Minutes of Funk
Dante’s Drop: Words of wisdom for creators and writers

Oct 28, 2021 • 1h 5min
Episode 83: Rethinking Nostalgia and Organizing the Future: A Conversation w/ Anjali Enjeti
In this conversation, Philip talks to journalist, author and organizer Anjali Enjeti. They discuss the power and potential in community organizing, the corrosive nostalgia of the South and why we have to build multi-racial coalitions in opposition to empire.
The Drop – The segment of the show where Philip and his guest share tasty morsels of intellectual goodness and creative musings.
Philip’s Drop: Blood In The Water – Heather Ann Thompson
Anjali’s Drop: My Name is Pauli Murray Special Guest: Anjali Enjeti .