In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy and Josh Hunter are joined by Christy Nockels who is a wife, mother, podcaster, and worship leader for global movements like Passion Conferences and IF:Gathering. And she is also now an author with her debut book The Life You Long For. During their conversation, they discuss how to rest in God as a leader, how to protect ourselves from comparison, and the benefits of collaboration in leadership. QUOTES FROM EPISODE 53: “I was living for God, but I found myself in a place where I didn’t know how to live from God.” “We need to learn to live from a heart of rest, and when I say rest, I don’t just mean weekly Sabbath. I mean a soul rest.” “Resting in God is a posture of trusting God to make a way for us and not hustling for it on our own.” “When you live from your own belovedness, you lead from a place for contending and fighting for it in others.” “As leaders, it is easy to “yes” ourselves into exhaustion.” “I’ve tried to view social media as a place of serving others instead of feeding my soul.” “It is a gift to be able to collaborate with others.” RESOURCES MENTIONED The Pursuit of God by A.W. Tozer Abiding in Christ by Andrew Murray The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry by John Mark Comer The Birkman Personality Test

In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy and Josh Hunter are joined by JT English who is the lead pastor at Storyline Church in Colorado. Before that, he was a pastor at the Village Church where he led The Village Institute. He also co-hosts the Knowing Faith podcast and is the author of his new book Deep Discipleship. During their conversation, they discuss how to grow in discipleship, how to get constant feedback from those you are leading, and what it was like taking over a church in the midst of a global pandemic. QUOTES FROM EPISODE 51: “We should not have to leave the church in order to lead in the church.” “I had this conviction that what if we were to take the best that a seminary has to offer and offer it to every day Christians in the local church. Because Christians really want to grow.” “We typically ask the question, “What do disciples want,” instead of asking the better questions of, “What do disciples need.”” “It is never too early to start reading the Bible.” “There is nothing more off-putting about a leader than overconfidence. If we are calling ourselves Christian leaders, the only leader who could have been overconfident is Jesus. That’s not how Jesus leads.” “If your priority list is your email, then you are probably not leading well. You are being led by your email.” “Leaders need to maintain a soft heart and a firm spine.” RESOURCES MENTIONED Deep Discipleship by J.T. English Dwell App Frederick Douglass: Prophet of Freedom by David W. Blight

In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy and Josh Hunter are joined by Dianne Jago who is a military wife and mother of three residing in Pensacola, Florida. She is the founder and chief editor of Deeply Rooted Magazine, where she works with her team to encourage, inspire, and equip women to be deeply rooted in Christ alone. She is also the author of A Holy Pursuit .  During their conversation, they discuss how to lead a remote team, how to bring a dream to a reality, and how to lean into our weakness as leaders. QUOTES FROM EPISODE 50: “When leading a remote team, I learned we had to clearly communicate the vision and set clear expectations.” “I needed to make sure I was leading my kids and leading in my home first before my business.” “Oftentimes leaders desire influence and they want to change the world, and that really starts in the home.” “I wish early on I had the ability to delegate. I was a perfection, and now I’m a recovering perfection.” “God’s grace is sufficient and his power is made perfect in our weakness, even in our weakness as leaders.” RESOURCES MENTIONED Deeply Rooted Magazine A Holy Pursuit by Dianne Jago Discipline by Elisabeth Elliot Checklist Manifesto by Atul Gawande Do More Better: A Practical Guide to Productivity by Tim Challies Be Still My Soul by Elisabeth Elliot

In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy and Josh Hunter are joined by Barnabas Piper who is on staff at Immanuel Church in Nashville, TN. He is also the author of The Pastor's Kid and Help My Unbelief AND He co-hosts the popular Happy Rant podcast. Exciting news…..he also just released a new book called Hoping for Happiness. During their conversation, they discuss how to wait on the Lord in your work, growing in humility as a leader, and  living up to expectations as a pastor’s kid. QUOTES FROM EPISODE 49: “Happiness is not promised to us in our work. Go back and read Genesis 3. Genesis 3 basically says our work is going to be a pain, often.” “Keep the room clean where you are until God opens the door to the next place.” “Every time I have ever tried hard to change my work situation, I’ve screwed it up. When I’ve decided to faithfully work where I am and God handles the transition, I’ve been put in a spot that is clearly the best spot for me to be in.” “To be humble takes a profound amount of security in the Lord. Because you are volunteering to be lower than other people.” “More is expected of leaders. That’s part of the job.” “I liked passing the buck and taking the credit, which is the opposite of leadership.” “If we are marked by the things that we are trying to avoid, we are aimless.” RESOURCES MENTIONED 5LQ Episode 1: John Piper Hoping for Happiness by Barnabas Piper Gentle and Lowly by Dane Ortlund Ragamuffin Gospel by Brennan Manning The Son by Philipp Meyer Working by Robert A. Caro

In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy and Josh Hunter are joined by Dorena Williamson who is a proud mother, a passionate teacher, and a devoted bridge-builder. She is also the author of ColorFull, ThoughtFull, and GraceFull, which are children’s books that celebrate God’s diverse kingdom. During their conversation, they discuss what it means to be a bridge-builder, the necessity of listening and learning from others, and how to focus on pleasing God more than people. QUOTES FROM EPISODE 48: “Oftentimes, bridgebuilders get walked on because that is what bridges were designed for.” “The ultimate bridge builder was Jesus the Messiah. He gave his life to create a bridge for us to God.” “We must posture ourselves as listeners and learners.” “We need to do what we are called to do and that is not to please people, that is to aim to please God.” “Support and loyalty are not always the same thing.” “If someone is more loyal to me than they are to Christ, then I have failed them.” RESOURCES MENTIONED Designed to Lead by Eric Geiger and Kevin Peck Healing Racial Trauma: The Road to Resilience by Sheila Wise Rowe

In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy and Josh Hunter are joined by Matt Chandler who is the lead pastor of teaching at The Village Church in Dallas, Texas, and the president of Acts 29. He has authored several books, including To Live Is Christ to Die Is Gain, Creature of the Word, and The Explicit Gospel. During their conversation, they discuss how Matt was diagnosed with brain cancer as a young leader, how to understand yourself as a leader, and how to create an ideal week and schedule your days. QUOTES FROM EPISODE 47: “I’m all gas and no brakes. So I needed some brakes around me. Or we were going to do 6,000 things and none of them well.” “As leaders, we need to flank our weakness and bolster our strengths with the people around us.” “The biggest pivotal moment that changed my life was when I got brain cancer, and honestly, it was both the scariest and coolest season of my life.” “My heart when coming to the Village Church was that I didn’t want to make it my church.” “What’s going on inside of me is a question leaders don’t pay attention to often enough.” “Without repetition, there is no formation.” - Jon Tyson “As a young leader, I had the misconception that people would just do what I said.” “There is a game we play of winning over people and learning to take an idea from our head and to its inception and not destroy people along the way.” RESOURCES MENTIONED Essentialism: The Disciplined Pursuit of Less by Greg McKeown The Ride of a Lifetime by Robert Iger

In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy and Josh Hunter are joined by Alexandra Hoover who is a wife, mother, Bible teacher, and writer. She has the privilege of serving on staff at Transformation Church as the Assistant Director of Equipping. She’s passionate about communicating the love of Jesus, whether it be through writing or speaking. During their conversation, they discuss how to lead up to older leaders, how to lead those who have hurt you, and how to root our identity in Christ, not our role. QUOTES FROM EPISODE 46: “Often as leaders, especially young leaders in our culture, we think success is microwavable.” “Our identity has to be so rooted in Christ and who he is so that changes and transitions and challenges don’t throw us but grow us.” “We should be working from a place of love not for a place of love.” “We need to constantly be asking ourselves, “Am I being pushed by fear or pulled by love?” “When I think about leadership, I think about humility.” “We must practice humility even with those who are wrong and even with those who hurt you.” “The biggest flex in the kingdom of God is when you are able to love those who have hurt you.” “Remember that your identity is not defined by your role.” RESOURCES MENTIONED The Next Right Thing by Emily P. Freeman How to Lead When You are Not in Charge by Clay Scroggins When to Walk Away: Finding Freedom from Toxic People by Gary Thomas

In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy and Josh Hunter are joined by Ben Mandrell who is the former Senior Pastor of Inglewood Baptist Church and the founding planter of Storyline Fellowship in Arvada, CO. He is now the President and CEO of Lifeway Christian Resources. During their conversation, they discuss the link between teaching and leadership, productivity tips to stay organized as a leader, and Ben’s transition from church planting to Lifeway. QUOTES FROM EPISODE 45: “A mark of a great leader is that we are always learning and growing and nobody has it all together.” “Words create worlds.” “The words you choose to communicate create culture more than anything else.” “As we become more churchy, we become less interesting to the unchurched.” “Child-like faith is something that we never graduate from.” “Your head is for having ideas, not for holding them.” “The more clear and the more strong and more bold you are in a general direction, the more haters you will have.” “Don’t be overconfident in what you can accomplish in a year, and don’t be under confident in what you can accomplish in five years.” RESOURCES MENTIONED Great Leader, Great Teacher by Gary J. Bredfeldt Getting Things Done by David Allen When by Daniel Pink Sacred Pathways by Gary Thomas

In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy and Josh Hunter are joined by Brad Barnett who is the Senior Manager of Events for Lifeway Students. He helps lead and oversee over 125,000 students and kids that come to camp every summer. During their conversation, they discuss how to understand yourself as a leader, how to explore your calling, and how to lead as an introvert. QUOTES FROM EPISODE 44: “Leadership intentionality with others trumps any kind of leadership knowledge.” “We can’t lead everyone the same. We have to lead people differently along the way.” “God is more concerned about the work that he is doing in us than the work he is doing through us.” “Leadership is hard. There is a heaviness and a burden you are signing up to carry on behalf of those you lead.” “God places unique things in our lives that lead to opportunities that wouldn’t be there otherwise.” “Giving feedback is caring. Withholding feedback is uncaring.” RESOURCES MENTIONED Every Good Endeavor by Timothy Keller How to Lead When You are Not in Charge by Clay Scroggins

In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy and Josh Hunter look back on the first year of the Unseen Leadership podcast and reflect on what they have learned while interviewing 40+ leaders. During their conversation, they answer the following questions: What are 2-3 of the most impactful quotes that we have heard on the podcast? After 40+ interviews, what are 2-3 words or ideas that have stuck out the most to you? What has been your personal favorite moment on this podcast? What were 2-3 of the most interesting stories you have heard on the podcast? What was the most impactful book you have read that was discussed on the podcast? If you could grab coffee with 1 guest that we have had on, who would it be and why? Who is your bucket list guest? Meaning if we could get one guest on here, who would it be? Which question is your favorite that we ask? YOUNG LEADER LIBRARY GIVEAWAY: In connection with this podcast episode, we are giving away a young leader library that includes 15 of the most recommended books from year 1 of the podcast. To enter the giveaway, just share about the Unseen Leadership podcast on Instagram through a regular post or on your story and make sure to tag @unseenleadership. When you share, you’ll be entered to win the Young Leader Library, which is valued at over $175.