In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy and Josh Hunter are joined by JT English who is the lead pastor at Storyline Church in Colorado. Before that, he was a pastor at the Village Church where he led The Village Institute. He also co-hosts the Knowing Faith podcast and is the author of his new book Deep Discipleship. During their conversation, they discuss how to grow in discipleship, how to get constant feedback from those you are leading, and what it was like taking over a church in the midst of a global pandemic. QUOTES FROM EPISODE 51: “We should not have to leave the church in order to lead in the church.” “I had this conviction that what if we were to take the best that a seminary has to offer and offer it to every day Christians in the local church. Because Christians really want to grow.” “We typically ask the question, “What do disciples want,” instead of asking the better questions of, “What do disciples need.”” “It is never too early to start reading the Bible.” “There is nothing more off-putting about a leader than overconfidence. If we are calling ourselves Christian leaders, the only leader who could have been overconfident is Jesus. That’s not how Jesus leads.” “If your priority list is your email, then you are probably not leading well. You are being led by your email.” “Leaders need to maintain a soft heart and a firm spine.” RESOURCES MENTIONED Deep Discipleship by J.T. English Dwell App Frederick Douglass: Prophet of Freedom by David W. Blight