In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy and Josh Hunter are joined by Ben Mandrell who is the former Senior Pastor of Inglewood Baptist Church and the founding planter of Storyline Fellowship in Arvada, CO. He is now the President and CEO of Lifeway Christian Resources. During their conversation, they discuss the link between teaching and leadership, productivity tips to stay organized as a leader, and Ben’s transition from church planting to Lifeway. QUOTES FROM EPISODE 45: “A mark of a great leader is that we are always learning and growing and nobody has it all together.” “Words create worlds.” “The words you choose to communicate create culture more than anything else.” “As we become more churchy, we become less interesting to the unchurched.” “Child-like faith is something that we never graduate from.” “Your head is for having ideas, not for holding them.” “The more clear and the more strong and more bold you are in a general direction, the more haters you will have.” “Don’t be overconfident in what you can accomplish in a year, and don’t be under confident in what you can accomplish in five years.” RESOURCES MENTIONED Great Leader, Great Teacher by Gary J. Bredfeldt Getting Things Done by David Allen When by Daniel Pink Sacred Pathways by Gary Thomas