

Leading Learning Podcast
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The market for continuing education, professional development, and lifelong learning is large and evolving rapidly. Competition is growing and learners have more options than ever. The Leading Learning Podcast is for learning business professionals who want to thrive in this new landscape. In each episode, co-hosts Jeff Cobb and Celisa Steele provide actionable insights based on their own deep experience and expertise or invite in experts and practitioners to share their perspectives.
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May 14, 2024 • 37min
409: Using Data to Drive Decision-Making
There are many ways to look at data. Two views that can be clarifying for learning businesses are the performance view and the potential view. You can use data to understand how you’re doing currently. How is your learning business performing? You can and should also use data to understand possibilities. How could you be doing? What products and services might you add or sunset or change? In this episode of the Leading Learning Podcast, number 409, co-hosts Jeff Cobb and Celisa Steele discuss using data in decision-making. Show notes and a downloadable transcript are available at https://leadinglearning.com/episode409.

May 7, 2024 • 27min
408: Authenticity in Marketing with Michelle Brien
Effective marketing is integral to a learning business’s success. But doing marketing well requires care and thought. In this episode, number 408, Leading Learning Podcast co-host Celisa Steele talks with Michelle Brien, vice president of marketing at Matchbox, who approaches her work with care and thought and authenticity. Celisa and Michelle talk about how Michelle defines marketing, the central role value plays in marketing, the rise of digital and content marketing, the potential for generative AI in marketing, and the fundamental importance of understanding your audience. Show notes and a downloadable transcript are available at https://www.leadinglearning.com/episode408.

Apr 30, 2024 • 28min
407: Adding Value With Guides
The third sector of education can be difficult for learners to navigate, and pathways can help learners. Having guides along the pathways can help even more. In this episode of the Leading Learning Podcast, number 407, co-hosts Jeff Cobb and Celisa Steele draw on a recent guided trekking experience to offer six takeaways about the value of guides that learning businesses might apply as they work to better serve their learners. Show notes and a downloadable transcript are available at https://www.leadinglearning.com/episode407.

Apr 23, 2024 • 31min
406: Nondisruptive Creation, Part II
In the Tagoras Learning Business Maturity Model, strategy is one of the five fundamental domains learning businesses need to work on and in to mature and be successful. To help with your essential strategy work, in this episode of the Leading Learning Podcast, number 406, co-hosts Jeff Cobb and Celisa Steele talk about “Part Two: How to Realize Nondisruptive Creation” of Beyond Disruption: Innovate and Achieve Growth Without Displacing Industries, Companies, or Jobs by W. Chan Kim and Renée Mauborgne. Show notes and a downloadable transcript are available at https://www.leadinglearning.com/episode406.

Apr 16, 2024 • 31min
405: The Science of Engagement with Clark Quinn
We often hear learning businesses say they want to better engage their learners. But what is engagement, and how does it work? In this episode, Leading Learning Podcast co-host Jeff Cobb digs into those questions with Clark Quinn, executive director of Quinnovation and author of Make It Meaningful: Taking Learning Design from Instructional to Transformational. Jeff and Clark talk about engagement and motivation; learners’ cognitive, affective, and conative involvement; and how the cognitive aspect gets more than its fair share of emphasis. They also talk about the role of emotion in learning, about practice and feedback, and about how the ability to make better decisions is ultimately the desired outcome of most learning experiences. Show notes and a downloadable transcript are available at https://www.leadinglearning.com/episode405.

Apr 9, 2024 • 35min
404: Nondisruptive Creation, Part I
Strategy is one of the five fundamental domains in the Learning Business Maturity Model. And most learning business leaders know that strategy is important. But truly understanding strategy and formulating intelligent strategy? That’s trickier. To help with that understanding and formulation, in this episode of the Leading Learning Podcast, number 404, co-hosts Jeff Cobb and Celisa Steele offer an audio book report on Beyond Disruption: Innovate and Achieve Growth Without Displacing Industries, Companies, or Jobs by W. Chan Kim and Renée Mauborgne of blue ocean fame. Show notes and a downloadable transcript are available at https://www.leadinglearning.com/episode404.

Apr 2, 2024 • 25min
403: Who or What Is Tagoras?
You can think of this episode of the Leading Learning Podcast as an origin story. Co-hosts Jeff Cobb and Celisa Steele talk about the relationship between Leading Learning and Tagoras, about what Tagoras is and does, and about the start of Leading Learning. Along the way they touch on the kinds of things that learning businesses need to be able to do, whether through the skills and knowledge of their internal team or by looking for outside support. Show notes and a downloadable transcript are available at https://www.leadinglearning.com/episode403.

Mar 26, 2024 • 49min
402: A Curious Conversation About AI with Julian Stodd
Join guest Julian Stodd in a thought-provoking discussion on generative AI, exploring its philosophical depth and societal implications. Discover insights on working out loud, embracing failure, and the impact of AI on knowledge creation. Dive into 'Engines of Engagement' to explore the intersection of AI and learning science, sparking debates on societal and organizational impacts. Uncover how AI enhances learning experiences and supports lifelong learning, while maintaining authenticity in the writing process.

Mar 19, 2024 • 27min
401: Developing Business for a Learning Business
Explore the essential role of business development skills in a successful learning business. Learn about the benefits of strategic partnerships and relationship cultivation for sustainable growth. Discover the importance of nurturing customer relationships and adopting a consultative approach. Dive into the advantages of collaborative partnerships with academic programs and other sectors. Understand the significance of investing in business development for maximizing reach and impact.

Mar 12, 2024 • 29min
400: 20 x 20 Vision for Lifelong Learning
We’re at an important point in time for lifelong learning. Much is shifting and unsettled in how humans live and work. That unsettledness means opportunity if your learning business is willing to grapple with the uncertainty and shape a vision for its role in the lifelong learning market. In this episode of the Leading Learning Podcast, co-hosts Jeff Cobb and Celisa Steele look at the current lifelong learning landscape, near-future trends, and the implications—and opportunities—for learning businesses. Show notes and a downloadable transcript are available at https://www.leadinglearning.com/episode400.