
School of War
This podcast seeks to learn what war teaches. There has been a steady decline in the study of military history and its associated theoretical discipline, strategy.This podcast seeks to fill that gap through in-depth interviews on military and diplomatic history. Our guests have included former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, the Cold War historian John Lewis Gaddis, and former China Select Committee chairman Mike Gallagher. We discuss the battlefield commanders, diplomats, strategists, policymakers, and statesmen who have had to make wartime decisions in the ancient and modern eras. The subject of an episode may be an historical battle, campaign, or conflict; the conduct of policy in the course of a major international incident; the work of a famous strategist; the nature of a famous weapon; or the legacy of an important military commander or political leader. Aaron MacLean is a senior fellow at Hudson Institute. He has worked as a foreign policy advisor and legislative director to Sen. Tom Cotton of Arkansas and spent seven years in the U.S. Marine Corps.Visit our Substack for episode transcriptsFollow along on Instagram
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Sep 3, 2024 • 43min
Ep 141: Matt Pottinger on the Defense of Taiwan (Boiling Moat #1)
Matt Pottinger, a distinguished visiting fellow at the Hoover Institution and Chairman of FDD's China Program, dives into the urgent defense of Taiwan. He analyzes how a potential conflict could ignite and the crucial need for deterrence against China. Pottinger draws historical parallels, discussing military preparedness and its paradoxical effects on peace. He warns against the myth of accidental wars, emphasizing that leadership decisions shape conflicts. The conversation highlights Taiwan's strategic importance in global supply chains and the necessity for coordinated defense among allies.

Aug 27, 2024 • 24min
Ep 140: Roger Wicker on Defense Spending and Peace through Strength
Roger Wicker, a U.S. Senator from Mississippi and ranking member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, shares insights from his military background and current defense priorities. He advocates for increasing U.S. defense spending to 5% of GDP and stresses the significance of military readiness in a changing global landscape. Wicker emphasizes the need for modernizing the nuclear arsenal, reforming procurement processes for better equipment, and strengthening alliances, particularly in the Indo-Pacific and Europe, to counter rising threats.

Aug 20, 2024 • 41min
Ep 139: Kenneth F. McKenzie Jr. on CENTCOM
General Kenneth F. McKenzie Jr., a retired USMC general and former commander of U.S. Central Command, shares insights on military strategy in the Middle East. He discusses the evolution of CENTCOM and the challenges of balancing resources in a changing geopolitical landscape. McKenzie elaborates on the rising tensions between Israel and Iran, highlighting the implications for regional security. He also reflects on the importance of a liberal arts education in developing strategic thinking and the emotional impact of military service.

Aug 13, 2024 • 49min
Ep 138: Joshua S. Treviño on the Southern Border Crisis
Joshua S. Treviño, Chief of Intelligence and Research at the Texas Public Policy Foundation, discusses the pressing issues surrounding the U.S. southern border. He emphasizes that immigration isn't the root problem but rather a symptom of broader security concerns. The conversation touches on historical conflicts in Texas and their ongoing impact on border dynamics. Treviño also highlights cartels as quasi-state actors and suggests reevaluating U.S.-Mexico relations through integrated security measures, citing historical cases like the Caroline Affair.

Aug 6, 2024 • 58min
Ep 137: Richard Frank on Hiroshima, Nagasaki, and World War II’s Endgame
Richard Frank, a historian and author renowned for his works on World War II, delves into the weighty legacy of the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. He discusses the staggering human cost, shedding light on the often overlooked casualties in China. The conversation explores the strategic military decisions leading to unconditional surrender and the contrasting approaches taken by the U.S. Army and Navy. Frank also addresses the complexities behind the bombings, urging a comprehensive understanding of their profound impact on both Japan and beyond.

Aug 2, 2024 • 43min
Ep 136: Ronald C. White on Joshua Chamberlain
Ronald C. White, a Senior Fellow at the Trinity Forum and author specializing in Joshua Chamberlain, delves into the heroic life of this Civil War leader. He discusses Chamberlain's pivotal role at Little Round Top and his unique leadership style that rallied soldiers of the 20th Maine. The podcast examines Chamberlain's remarkable courage, contrasting him with fellow leader William Oates, and explores his post-war transition from academia to political prominence. White highlights the enduring legacy of Chamberlain's values and the importance of adaptability in leadership.

Jul 30, 2024 • 53min
Ep 135: Rich Goldberg on Israel‘s Northern Crisis
Rich Goldberg, a senior advisor at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, provides insights into the Israel-Iran conflict. He discusses the escalating tensions, particularly between Israel and Hezbollah, and examines the tragic civilian fallout. The conversation dives into Iran’s strategic maneuvers and the implications for U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East, arguing for a unified approach. Rich emphasizes the need for a stronger American stance to navigate the complexities of regional alliances and the potential threat of a nuclear-capable Iran.

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Jul 23, 2024 • 50min
Ep 134: Michael Sobolik on China’s Geostrategy
Michael Sobolik, Senior Fellow in Indo-Pacific Studies at the American Foreign Policy Council, discusses China's geostrategy. Topics include Belt and Road Initiative, Chinese imperialism, historical geopolitical theories, and strategies for countering China. The podcast explores China's expansion in key regions, the implications of BRI, and debates on deterring war with China in the Western Pacific.

Jul 19, 2024 • 44min
Ep 133: James Holland on World War II in Italy, 1943
Author James Holland, known for The Savage Storm, discusses the Allied campaign in Italy. Topics include the decision to invade Italy, the mission to Rome, battles at Baytown and Salerno, and reevaluating Mark Clark's leadership.

Jul 16, 2024 • 48min
Ep 132: Michael Kofman on the Battlefield in Ukraine (War in Ukraine #4)
Michael Kofman, Senior Fellow at Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, discusses operational phases of the war in Ukraine - 'Two Wars,' assumptions, contingency, structure, field challenges, cyber overhype, and achieving favorable outcomes
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