
School of War
This podcast seeks to learn what war teaches. There has been a steady decline in the study of military history and its associated theoretical discipline, strategy.This podcast seeks to fill that gap through in-depth interviews on military and diplomatic history. Our guests have included former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, the Cold War historian John Lewis Gaddis, and former China Select Committee chairman Mike Gallagher. We discuss the battlefield commanders, diplomats, strategists, policymakers, and statesmen who have had to make wartime decisions in the ancient and modern eras. The subject of an episode may be an historical battle, campaign, or conflict; the conduct of policy in the course of a major international incident; the work of a famous strategist; the nature of a famous weapon; or the legacy of an important military commander or political leader. Aaron MacLean is a senior fellow at Hudson Institute. He has worked as a foreign policy advisor and legislative director to Sen. Tom Cotton of Arkansas and spent seven years in the U.S. Marine Corps.Visit our Substack for episode transcriptsFollow along on Instagram
Latest episodes

Jul 9, 2024 • 55min
Ep 131: Thomas Mahnken on Strategic Fallacies (War in Ukraine #3)
Thomas Mahnken, President of CSBA, discusses strategic fallacies in warfare focusing on rationality, Hitler's actions, and dangers of under/overestimating adversaries. He challenges war being solely irrational, emphasizing the need for accurate strategic assessments.

Jul 2, 2024 • 59min
Ep 130: John Spencer on Israel’s Unprecedented War (or, Urban Warfare 101)
John Spencer, an expert in urban warfare, discusses Israel's unique war against Hamas with a focus on justice and humanity. The conversation delves into changes in urban warfare, the significance of terrain, learning on the ground, the battle of Manila, and outthinking the enemy with innovative strategies like tunnels.

Jun 25, 2024 • 53min
Ep 129: Frank Gavin on Nuclear Strategy and Ukraine (War in Ukraine #2)
Frank Gavin, a nuclear strategy expert, discusses the role of nuclear weapons in the Ukraine war. Topics include invasion insurance, Putin's potential use of nuclear weapons, and the effectiveness of saber-rattling. Gavin highlights historical contexts and the impact of nuclear strategies on global politics.

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Jun 18, 2024 • 59min
Ep 128: Stephen Kotkin on Russia and Ukraine (War in Ukraine #1)
Stephen Kotkin discusses the war in Ukraine, major victories, regime change in Russia, and the cultural identity of Europe. Topics include Ukraine's defense, revitalizing NATO, humiliating Russia, and maintaining alliances during negotiations with authoritarian regimes like China.

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Jun 11, 2024 • 54min
Ep 127: Robert Blackwill & Richard Fontaine on the Failed Pivot to Asia
Authors Robert Blackwill & Richard Fontaine discuss America's failed pivot to Asia, challenges in US trade policy, navigating strategy towards China, US values-based approach, and Henry Kissinger's views on US-China relations.

Jun 4, 2024 • 50min
Ep 126: Michel Paradis on D-Day and Eisenhower
Michel Paradis—litigator, national security law scholar, and author of The Light of Battle: Eisenhower, D-Day, and the Birth of the American Superpower—joins the show to talk about D-Day and the man behind the invasion, Dwight Eisenhower.▪️Times • 01:49 Introduction • 01:56 “Wildly under appreciated” • 05:17 Upbringing • 11:40 Seeing the world as it is • 15:01 Not that long ago • 22:14 British vs American plans • 32:50 Using strategic advantages • 36:03 Designing D-Day • 46:58 Planning for failureFollow along on InstagramFind a transcript of today’s episode on our School of War SubstackFollow the link to buy the book - The Light of Battle: Eisenhower, D-Day, and the Birth of the American Superpower

May 28, 2024 • 53min
Ep 125: Nick Bunker on America and the Early Cold War
Journalist and author Nick Bunker discusses America's early Cold War era, including Truman, Stalin, nuclear thinking, and the need to defend Korea. The podcast draws parallels between historical events and current US-China relations, focusing on Asia and Europe.

May 21, 2024 • 46min
Ep 124: Shane Brennan on Xenophon and Leadership
Shane Brennan, Associate Professor of History and Classics, discusses Xenophon's Anabasis and leadership. Topics include Xenophon's journey, Cyrus the Younger, Matterhorn, exile, and lessons on leadership from ancient Greek military history.

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May 14, 2024 • 50min
Ep 123: Sergey Radchenko on Soviet Motivations in the Cold War
In this engaging discussion, Sergey Radchenko, a professor at Johns Hopkins and author of "To Run the World," analyzes Soviet motivations during the Cold War. He dives into how the USSR sought global recognition over ideology, using newly declassified documents to reshape our understanding of the era. The conversation also explores Stalin's quest for legitimacy and the complexities of Cold War détente, highlighting the stark contrasts between past and present attitudes towards nuclear weapons and the economic lessons for China from the Soviet experience.

May 7, 2024 • 37min
Ep 122: Mike Gallagher and Matt Pottinger on a Victory Strategy for China
Mike Gallagher and Matt Pottinger discuss the need for a victory strategy in America's cold war with China. They explore why detente isn't working, the importance of real statesmanship, and propose a strategy of rearm, reduce, and recruit. The podcast highlights the urgency of reevaluating tactics in dealing with China and acknowledges recent legislative success in China competition.
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