
The Hard Way With Joe De Sena
Learn the Spartan mindset. Founder & CEO of Spartan Race and NY Times best-selling author, travels the globe seeking and answers authors, academics, athletes, adventurers, entrepreneurs, CEOs and thought leaders. It will shift your thinking, make you laugh and and give you the tools you need. He’s on a mission to find the secrets to success in all aspects of life. Not only does Joe interview epic people, he has brought together an amazing panel to break down and analyze every aspect of these interviews. We give you the ultimate blueprint and action steps to assimilating these powerful conversations into your own life.
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May 3, 2022 • 31min
Move the Body Heal the Mind / Joe De Sena & Jennifer Heisz, PhD
Your brain evolved to prevent you from moving, to conserve energy, because there was a time when humans needed a lot of energy to hunt and to gather food. We don't have to do that now, but the brain is still set up to conserve energy. But if you can overcome that resistance and MOVE you unlock the most powerful medicine in mental health. This episode explains how exercise can improve focus, memory, depression, anxiety and sleep. How much exercise you need to do. And some simple recommendations to encourage the release of the chemicals your brain wants more of. Joe De Sena, founder and CEO of Spartan is joined by Jennifer Heisz, PhD author “Move the Body, Heal the Mind” is an expert in brain health, associate professor in the Department of Kinesiology at McMaster University and directs the NeuroFit Lab. Dr. Heisz's research examines the effects of physical activity on brain function to promote mental health and cognition. LINKS: More about Dr. Jennifer Heisz https://www.jenniferheisz.com/ Move the Body Heal the Mind https://amzn.to/3y9IYaz 10 Rules for Resilience, Mental Toughness for Families https://amzn.to/3FbqwQ0 Spartan Up podcast is brought to you by Wild Health www.wildhealth.com Wondering which diet is right for you? What your optimal recovery routine is? How your sleep impacts performance? Wild Health will help you uncover all the answers to your health questions with a fully personalized, precision health plan, based on your DNA & bloodwork. Discover your truth - sign up at wildhealth.com with code SPARTAN10 for 10% off. AND by Athletic Brewing Company. Athletic Brewing Company’s innovative process allows them to brew great-tasting craft beer without the alcohol. Place an order today at athleticbrewing.com and get free shipping on two six packs or more. New customers can also get 10% off their entire order with code SPARTAN10. Limit one per customer. CREDITS: Producer – Marion Abrams, Madmotion.com Host: Joe De Sena © 2022 Spartan

Apr 30, 2022 • 18min
Are You Too Old? / CLASSIC
Marla Sweeney, Heather Gollnick, Jimmy Binns are going to let you know how they keep doing what they do as they get older, and with their advice, you’ll be able to keep competing and having fun actively until your 80s, 90s, maybe even into your 100s. We had the help of Amelia Boone interviewing Marla, and Kevin Gillotti interviewing Heather. Joe: Because they didn't want a 72 or 73 year old? Jimmy Binns: I think a part of it was that they didn't want people thinking that anybody can walk in there and just go through the police academy. Joe: But you would train. Jimmy: Yeah, but I mean, it's a very vigorous and rigorous program. You know, ain't nobody walking in there and completing it, trust me, unless you really are motivated. In this episode, you’ll learn: - How to run Spartan Races in your 70s - With competitive age comes wisdom IF you listen to your body - How Jimmy was able to complete the Police Academy at the age of 73 If you want to watch the full episodes: You're Never too old to Run - Marla Sweeney and Amelia Boone ep 185 - https://youtu.be/RY5bcqyHppQ Staying Fit as You Age with Heather Gollnick // Spartan ATHLETE 001 - https://youtu.be/3o45DV6GXTU 74 Year Old Motorcycle Cop Jimmy Binns is Never too Old for a Challenge ep.031 - https://youtu.be/SEyf8H8vVcc SPONSOR This episode of Spartan Up is brought to you by the EXOGEN ultrasound bone healing system. EXOGEN is a non-invasive treatment option that can help heal your broken bone in just 20 minutes a day in the comfort of your own home. If you or a loved one has broken a bone, talk to your doctor about EXOGEN. EXOGEN is indicated for the healing of nonunion fractures and for accelerating the healing of certain acute fractures, with no known contraindications. To learn more visit https://www.exogen.com/us/SPARTAN SUBSCRIBE: Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/SpartanUpShow YouTube: http://bit.ly/SpartanUpYT Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1pYBkk1T684YQg7CmoaAZt FOLLOW SPARTAN UP: Spartan Up on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/spartanuppodcast/ Spartan Up on Twitter https://twitter.com/SpartanUpPod CREDITS: Producer: Lake Watters Hosts: Johnny Waite, Joe De Sena Co-Hosts: Sefra Alexandra, Col. Nye Sr Producer: Marion Abrams © 2022 Spartan

Apr 28, 2022 • 26min
Set A Goal You Can’t Reach, Hans Florine pt 2 / DEKA
Hans Florine says, “That's what climbing is, is doing something that you couldn't previously do, whether it was last week or seconds ago. And so there's immediate reward in climbing for, 'Hey there's a problem in front of you, and it's just a problem.' And that's what life is. And we do something, change our body position, get another tool, and we move forward and we get past it.” Today, Yancy and Jarod talk with Hans about reaching for goals you can’t accomplish yet, and how having fun means you're at your best. Today, you’ll learn about: The people having the most fun are the best climbers Go out and find things to do and challenge yourself, because you can Finding something you can’t do, but want to do, and working and learning until you accomplish it Hans Florine is a speed climber, professional speaker, author and thought leader in speed and efficiency. Hans has repeatedly set and broken one of the most coveted speed records in the world: The Nose of El Capitan, a 2,900-foot monolith in Yosemite Valley. Connect with Hans and buy his book, On the Nose: On the Nose (Hardcover and Audiobook) -hansflorine.com/?page_id=252 Website - hansflorine.com/ Do Hard Things Challenge - dhtchallenge.com/ Facebook - facebook.com/HansFlorineclimbs Twitter - twitter.com/hansflorine Instagram - instagram.com/hansflorine YouTube - youtube.com/channel/UChfOZX5LDSuhZDJA4xa08Og/feed Stay at Hans’ homes -hansbasecamp.com/ Connect with Jarod and Yancy on social, and attend a DEKA event: -Jarod’s Social: @jarod_cogswell -Yancy’s Social: @YancyCulp -Race a DEKA Event: DEKA-FIT SPONSOR This episode of Spartan Up is brought to you by the EXOGEN ultrasound bone healing system. EXOGEN is a non-invasive treatment option that can help heal your broken bone in just 20 minutes a day in the comfort of your own home. If you or a loved one has broken a bone, talk to your doctor about EXOGEN. EXOGEN is indicated for the healing of nonunion fractures and for accelerating the healing of certain acute fractures, with no known contraindications. To learn more visit https://www.exogen.com/us/SPARTAN SUBSCRIBE: Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/SpartanUpShow YouTube: http://bit.ly/SpartanUpYT Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1pYBkk1T684YQg7CmoaAZt FOLLOW SPARTAN UP: Spartan Up on Instagram: @spartanuppodcast Spartan Up on Twitter: @SpartanUpPod CREDITS: Producer: Lake Watters Host: Jarod Cogswell and Yancy Culp Sr Producer: Marion Abrams © 2022 Spartan

Apr 26, 2022 • 26min
How to Find a Life Worth Living / Ryan “Birdman” Parrott & Joe De Sena
Feel a lack of motivation? Find a problem that needs to be solved. Ryan joins Spartan Race founder and CEO Joe De Sena to talk about it. He enlisted in the Navy after watching the Twin Towers fall on 9/11, and Parrott served eight years as a U.S. Navy SEAL completing three combat tours to Iraq before being assigned to Advanced Training Command as an Instructor. He saw the need for better burn care, he started Sons of the Flag. Today he sees a need for better physical education and he's starting the The Human Performance Project to dissect and share essentials of human physiology. The Tough Bible - the best information from Spartan Up all in one place Spartan.com/toughbible Be ready for ANYTHING - download the free book https://www.spartan.com/readyforanything Spartan Up podcast is brought to you by Wild Health www.wildhealth.com Wondering which diet is right for you? What your optimal recovery routine is? How your sleep impacts performance? Wild Health will help you uncover all the answers to your health questions with a fully personalized, precision health plan, based on your DNA & bloodwork. Discover your truth - sign up at wildhealth.com with code SPARTAN10 for 10% off. Race, recharge, recover. The #1 workout-recovery blend in America is now available with 200mg of clean caffeine. FITAID Energy is naturally sweetened with only 15 calories, no sucralose, no aspartame, and no compromises. This NATURALLY sweetened clean energy + sports recovery blend is now available in 4 electric flavors. Visit lifeaidbevco.com and save 20% when you sign up for a subscription today. Use code SPARTANENERGY at checkout for 20% off. CREDITS: Producer – Marion Abrams, Madmotion.com Host: Joe De Sena © 2022 Spartan

Apr 23, 2022 • 23min
3 Amazing Boston Marathon Stories / CLASSIC
Meb Keflezighi, Jeffrey Zeizel, and Kathrine Switzer each have experiences at the Boston Marathon that would seem unthinkable if they didn’t happen. Meb Keflezighi, the first American to win the boston Marathon after the tragic bombing, says, “In a marathon, you don’t break early. You know, you try to hold on, but sometimes you have to listen to your instincts and go for it. And I went for it. I was the fifteenth, or so, fastest guy in the race, but you know, you’ve got to do it that day, and I was so proud to be able to pull the victory for the United States.” In this episode, you’ll learn: - How Meb’s family embodying the American dream led to his glorious victory - Jeffrey’s experience being in the Marathon when the bomb went off and how he managed his situation - The lead up, the incident, and the after effects of Kathrine Switzer’s historical run where she was attacked by an official If you want to watch the full episodes: Meb Keflezighi tells Spartan why he wins Marathons - https://youtu.be/SDUU865MV4s Clinical Social Worker Shares Techniques to Overcome Any Obstacle ep.068 - https://youtu.be/1Jo1oEHVttY Kathrine Switzer Changed Marathons Forever, with host Joe De Sena - https://youtu.be/p7cjri0IX80 SPONSOR This episode of Spartan Up is brought to you by the EXOGEN ultrasound bone healing system. EXOGEN is a non-invasive treatment option that can help heal your broken bone in just 20 minutes a day in the comfort of your own home. If you or a loved one has broken a bone, talk to your doctor about EXOGEN. EXOGEN is indicated for the healing of nonunion fractures and for accelerating the healing of certain acute fractures, with no known contraindications. To learn more visit https://www.exogen.com/us/SPARTAN SUBSCRIBE: Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/SpartanUpShow YouTube: http://bit.ly/SpartanUpYT Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1pYBkk1T684YQg7CmoaAZt FOLLOW SPARTAN UP: Spartan Up on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/spartanuppodcast/ Spartan Up on Twitter https://twitter.com/SpartanUpPod CREDITS: Producer: Lake Watters Hosts: Johnny Waite, Joe De Sena Co-Hosts: Sefra Alexandra, Col. Nye Sr Producer: Marion Abrams © 2022 Spartan

Apr 21, 2022 • 36min
Get Clarity With Adventures, Hans Florine pt 1 / DEKA
Hans Florine talking about when he broke his legs 4 years ago, “I was out of view when I fell and broke my leg. He came around the corner and I was talking on the phone. And he's like, "What the F are you doing talking on the phone?" And I'm like, I'm talking to the Rangers. Why are you talking Rangers? We need a rescue. I've broken both of my legs, and he's just like, you you know, couldn't you, like, cry or scream or do something first before you just get to business of fixing it... I think he's one of the people who just said, like, I just started doing what I could do.” Today, Yancy and Jarod talk with Hans about finding peace with yourself through adventure. In this episode, you’ll learn about: - Don’t live life from the sideline - Get as much as you can out of what you love doing - How joy and proper safety outweigh fear - The bonds and trust you gain taking things on with others - Staying happy and doing what you can do Hans Florine is a speed climber, professional speaker, author and thought leader in speed and efficiency. Hans has repeatedly set and broken one of the most coveted speed records in the world: The Nose of El Capitan, a 2,900-foot monolith in Yosemite Valley. Connect with Hans and buy his book, On the Nose: On the Nose (Hardcover and Audiobook) -hansflorine.com/?page_id=252 Website - hansflorine.com/ Do Hard Things Challenge - dhtchallenge.com/ Facebook - facebook.com/HansFlorineclimbs Twitter - twitter.com/hansflorine Instagram - instagram.com/hansflorine YouTube - youtube.com/channel/UChfOZX5LDSuhZDJA4xa08Og/feed Stay at Hans’ homes -hansbasecamp.com/ Connect with Jarod and Yancy on social, and attend a DEKA event: -Jarod’s Social: @jarod_cogswell -Yancy’s Social: @YancyCulp -Race a DEKA Event: DEKA-FIT SPONSOR This episode of Spartan Up is brought to you by the EXOGEN ultrasound bone healing system. EXOGEN is a non-invasive treatment option that can help heal your broken bone in just 20 minutes a day in the comfort of your own home. If you or a loved one has broken a bone, talk to your doctor about EXOGEN. EXOGEN is indicated for the healing of nonunion fractures and for accelerating the healing of certain acute fractures, with no known contraindications. To learn more visit https://www.exogen.com/us/SPARTAN SUBSCRIBE: Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/SpartanUpShow YouTube: http://bit.ly/SpartanUpYT Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1pYBkk1T684YQg7CmoaAZt FOLLOW SPARTAN UP: Spartan Up on Instagram: @spartanuppodcast Spartan Up on Twitter: @SpartanUpPod CREDITS: Producer: Lake Watters Host: Jarod Cogswell and Yancy Culp Sr Producer: Marion Abrams © 2022 Spartan

Apr 19, 2022 • 30min
America’s Worst Mom / Lenore Seknazy & Joe De Sena
Today’s kids are smarter and stronger than our culture gives them credit for. Kids need independence to learn the skills they’ll need as adults. After her column "Why I Let My 9 Year Old Ride the Subway Alone" created a media firestorm, Lenore Skenazy founded the book, blog and movement, “Free-Range Kids.” Today she is president of Let Grow, the nonprofit making it easy, normal and legal to give kids back some independence. Learn More About Let Grow: https://letgrow.org/ “Free-Range Kids” https://amzn.to/3JWEd68 Joe De Sena’s Parenting book “10 Rules for Mental Toughness for Families” https://amzn.to/3JrN6oz The Tough Bible - the best information from Spartan Up all in one place Spartan.com/toughbible Spartan Up podcast is brought to you by Wild Health www.wildhealth.com Wondering which diet is right for you? What your optimal recovery routine is? How your sleep impacts performance? Wild Health will help you uncover all the answers to your health questions with a fully personalized, precision health plan, based on your DNA & bloodwork. Discover your truth - sign up at wildhealth.com with code SPARTAN10 for 10% off. This episode of Spartan Up is brought to you by the EXOGEN ultrasound bone healing system. EXOGEN is a non-invasive treatment option that can help heal your broken bone in just 20 minutes a day in the comfort of your own home. If you or a loved one has broken a bone, talk to your doctor about EXOGEN. EXOGEN is indicated for the healing of nonunion fractures and for accelerating the healing of certain acute fractures, with no known contraindications. To learn more visit https://www.exogen.com/us/SPARTAN/ CREDITS: Producer – Marion Abrams, Madmotion.com Host: Joe De Sena © 2022 Spartan

Apr 16, 2022 • 20min
Tactics to Overcome All Obstacles / CLASSIC
Earl Granville, Noah Currier, and Jonathan Lopez of Oscar Mike and Operation Enduring Warrior (OEW), author Alex Banayan, and Bai founder Ben Weiss are today’s experts for us to overcome all the different obstacles life throws at us.. Ben Weiss: You've got to be willing to take the path. For me, there's no shortcut. At the end of the day, you can't fail by working hard, you know, because your failures are still if you if they're rooted in hard work, somehow you lean on them, and then– Joe De Sena: You find a way out. Ben: Yeah, you’ll find success because there’s… Joe: You might find a door on the wall. Ben: Yes! In this episode, you’ll learn: - Find the grit, and the right people, to help you overcome obstacles - Practice and prepare for adversity - Finding “the third door” that no one knows about to get where you want - Going up against the tide in an already dominated industry, growing and navigating the infrastructure to stay relevant If you want to watch the full episodes: Three wounded Veterans want you to be unstoppable - Spartan Up Interview - https://youtu.be/tS2tukmRKMY There is always a way in through the third door | Alex Banayan - https://youtu.be/WUGED4UAHtg 152. Ben Weiss | Why should you unbelieve? - https://youtu.be/bo41sGjW-_w SPONSOR This episode of Spartan Up is brought to you by DUROLANE, a single injection that may provide up to six months 1 of relief from osteoarthritis knee pain. Risks can include general knee pain and pain at the injection site. You can see full prescribing information at DUROLANE.com. SUBSCRIBE: Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/SpartanUpShow YouTube: http://bit.ly/SpartanUpYT Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1pYBkk1T684YQg7CmoaAZt FOLLOW SPARTAN UP: Spartan Up on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/spartanuppodcast/ Spartan Up on Twitter https://twitter.com/SpartanUpPod CREDITS: Producer: Lake Watters Hosts: Johnny Waite, Joe De Sena Co-Hosts: Sefra Alexandra, Col. Nye Sr Producer: Marion Abrams © 2022 Spartan

Apr 14, 2022 • 37min
Don't Quit On Yourself, Brice Johnson / DEKA
Brice Johnson, Project Manager and Site Foreman at The Jericho Project, says, “Our form of spirituality is when you're doing so good, the next man is going to come up to you and ask you how you're doing that. No matter if it's cooking, in the gym at work, doing your homework, even folding your bed or doing your laundry. When the next man comes up and asks you, how are you doing that? That's our form of spirituality here.” Brice has been through a lot to get where he’s at today, and he’s made it his mission to help others like himself be the version of their self that they strive to be. Today, Yancy and Jarod talk with Brice about really wanting to be better and how you can focus on yourself. In this episode, you’ll learn: - You have to be dedicated to get better yourself, commit to yourself - Find the right support system - Be accountable and don't let negativity spread - Don’t let the people around you quit on themselves Connect with Jarod and Yancy on social, and attend a DEKA event: -Jarod’s Social: @jarod_cogswell -Yancy’s Social: @YancyCulp -Race a DEKA Event: DEKA-FIT SPONSOR This episode of Spartan Up is brought to you by DUROLANE, a single injection that may provide up to six months 1 of relief from osteoarthritis knee pain. Risks can include general knee pain and pain at the injection site. You can see full prescribing information at DUROLANE.com. SUBSCRIBE: Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/SpartanUpShow YouTube: http://bit.ly/SpartanUpYT Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1pYBkk1T684YQg7CmoaAZt FOLLOW SPARTAN UP: Spartan Up on Instagram: @spartanuppodcast Spartan Up on Twitter: @SpartanUpPod CREDITS: Producer: Lake Watters Host: Jarod Cogswell and Yancy Culp Sr Producer: Marion Abrams © 2022 Spartan

Apr 12, 2022 • 28min
Never Give Up Joe De Sena & Jericho Project's Chuck Etchison
Chuck Etchison founded the Jericho project after 20 years of heroin addiction and incarceration. Spartan Up host Johnny Waite was at our trail race, the Golden Gate classic in San Francisco, back in November. There was a group of guys, about 30 of them, all there to volunteer. He said these were interesting guys, these are hard guys, you could tell that they'd spent some time in trouble. But Johnny said he'd never seen such friendly, helpful, engaging, enthusiastic people. 30 of them did the work of 300. One of them told him about the Jericho project, that these are all guys who've been in prison, all guys who'd had addiction issues, all guys were on a track to spend the rest of their life doing that. But they all ended up in Chuck's program called the Jericho project. www.jerichoprojectca.org Joe De Sena’s Parenting book “10 Rules for Mental Toughness for Families” https://amzn.to/3JrN6oz The Tough Bible - the best information from Spartan Up all in one place Spartan.com/toughbible Spartan Up podcast is brought to you by Wild Health www.wildhealth.com Wondering which diet is right for you? What your optimal recovery routine is? How your sleep impacts performance? Wild Health will help you uncover all the answers to your health questions with a fully personalized, precision health plan, based on your DNA & bloodwork. Discover your truth - sign up at wildhealth.com with code SPARTAN10 for 10% off. This episode of Spartan Up is brought to you by DUROLANE, a single injection that may provide up to six months 1 of relief from osteoarthritis knee pain. Risks can include general knee pain and pain at the injection site. You can see full prescribing information at DUROLANE.com. CREDITS: Producer – Marion Abrams, Madmotion.com Host: Joe De Sena © 2022 Spartan
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