
The Evolving Wellness Podcast with Sarah Kleiner Wellness
Sarah Kleiner Wellness challenges preconceived notions about modern health + wellness by breaking down scientific research into digestible, actionable actionable information to help people live genuinely healthy lives. We dive deep into circadian health, quantum health, hormone health, nutrition, and more.
As a certified Nutrition + Quantum Health Coach, I provide instructor-led and self-led workshops and programs that allow people to regain control and intention over their wellness journey and health outcomes.
Latest episodes

Jun 11, 2025 • 1h 4min
The Truth About Methylene Blue: Mood, Mitochondria + More | Dr. Scott Sherr
In this enlightening discussion, Dr. Scott Sherr, a physician specializing in chronic complex illnesses, unpacks the powerful benefits of Methylene Blue. He explores its effects on mitochondrial health, brain function, and overall vitality, while addressing common misconceptions about safety. Listeners will learn about its potential to enhance energy and clarity, as well as crucial safety considerations for those on SSRIs. Dr. Sherr emphasizes the importance of proper dosing and personalizing treatment, making a compelling case for Methylene Blue as an underrated health intervention.

Jun 4, 2025 • 1h 6min
Challenging the Protein Paradigm, Rethinking Health Essentials | Dr. Vincent Esposito
In this episode, I’m joined by Dr. Vincent Esposito for a thought-provoking conversation that explores both our differences and shared values in the health space. While we don’t align on every aspect of nutrition, we absolutely agree on the importance of questioning conventional wisdom, especially when it comes to antibiotics, hormone health, and taking ownership of your well-being. We explore topics like high-protein diets, the impact of artificial light on sleep, and why a one-size-fits-all approach to health often falls short. Topics Discussed: What are the risks of a high-protein diet?How does artificial light affect sleep and circadian rhythms?Why is it important to question mainstream narratives about estrogen and hormone health?What role do antibiotics play in long-term health and gut function?How can personal accountability improve your overall wellness journey?Sponsored By: Bon Charge | Click here & use code for SARAHKLEINER for 15% off storewide.Black Lotus Shilajit | Visit: www.blacklotusshilajit.com and Use Code: SARAHK for 15% the entire site!Timestamps: 00:00:00 - Introduction 00:04:56 - Chiropractic school journey + weight loss00:08:10 - Nutrition & dietary shifts00:10:17 - Seed oils, processed food & eating out00:11:59 - Whole food sources vs. macro tracking00:14:44 - Dangers of high-protein diets00:19:57 - Carnivore diet content & lab results00:27:03 - Heart disease, statins & nutrition00:29:50 - Estrogen, hormone health & HRT00:33:42 - Sleep quality & effects of artificial light00:37:53 - Common sleep disruptors00:38:55 - Tips for improving sleep naturally00:40:30 - Sleep patterns & wake-up timing00:41:59 - Seasonal affective disorder (SAD)00:43:35 - Navigating conflicting health advice00:46:26 - Children's health00:48:59 - Why personal health responsibility matters00:51:10 - Aging well 00:54:09 - Building real connections in wellness00:58:04 - Estrogen myths Further Listening: The Biggest Health and Fitness Mistakes People Make in the New Year with Coach Rob JacobsCheck Out Dr. Vincent Esposito: InstagramYouTubeinsideouthealthwellness.com This video is not medical advice & as a supporter to you and your health journey - I encourage you to monitor your labs and work with a professional!________________________________________My free product guide with all product recommendations and discount codes:https://s3.amazonaws.com/kajabi-storefronts-production/file-uploads/sites/2147573344/themes/2150788813/downloads/eac4820-016-b500-7db-ba106ed8583_2024_SKW_Affiliate_Guide_6_.pdfCheck out all my courses to understand how to improve your mitochondrial health & experience long lasting health! (Use code PODCAST to save 10%) - https://www.sarahkleinerwellness.com/coursesSign up for my newsletter to get special offers in the future! https://www.sarahkleinerwellness.com/contact

May 28, 2025 • 1h 14min
The Pineal Gland, Chronic Illness, + The Science of Healing | Veronica Leslie Panagopoulos
In this episode, Sarah is joined by agricultural scientist and naturopathic doctor Veronica Leslie Panagopoulos for a deep dive into the pineal gland’s role in chronic illness and trauma. Together, they explore how this often-overlooked part of the brain connects to our intuition, healing capacity, and even neurodivergence.Veronica explains the science behind pineal gland calcification, melatonin production, and mitochondrial health, offering both practical tools and theoretical insights. This conversation blends cutting-edge research with holistic wisdom to help you better understand your body’s natural rhythms and innate ability to heal.Get your lifewave patch nowTopics Discussed: How does the pineal gland affect chronic illness and trauma recovery?What causes calcification of the pineal gland, and how can it be reversed?Is there a connection between pineal melatonin and mitochondrial health?Can healing the pineal gland improve intuition and emotional regulation?What role does the pineal gland play in neurodivergence and nervous system health?Timestamps: 00:00:00 – Introduction 00:02:15 – Veronica’s background00:06:15 – Pineal gland & neurodivergence00:10:15 – Chronic illness & trauma00:14:53 – Pineal calcification00:17:12 – Melatonin & the brain00:22:54 – Mitochondria & HRT00:26:27 – Effects of calcification00:28:57 – What calcifies the pineal gland00:32:01 – Stressful media & burnout00:36:51 – Decalcifying the pineal00:39:37 – Reconnecting with humanity00:44:31 – Natural rhythms00:46:06 – Melatonin risks00:51:49 – Supplements vs. pharma00:53:25 – How the Alavida patch works00:57:35 – When to use Alavida00:59:41 – Reverse aging01:03:29 – Glutathione & patches01:06:49 – Pineal gland & illnessSponsored By: Troscriptions | There’s a completely new way to optimize your health. Give it a try at troscriptions.com/SARAHK, or enter SARAHK at checkout for 10% off your first order.Check Out Veronica: Get your lifewave patch nowInstagramWebsite This video is not medical advice & as a supporter to you and your health journey - I encourage you to monitor your labs and work with a professional!________________________________________My free product guide with all product recommendations and discount codes:https://s3.amazonaws.com/kajabi-storefronts-production/file-uploads/sites/2147573344/themes/2150788813/downloads/eac4820-016-b500-7db-ba106ed8583_2024_SKW_Affiliate_Guide_6_.pdfCheck out all my courses to understand how to improve your mitochondrial health & experience long lasting health! (Use code PODCAST to save 10%) - https://www.sarahkleinerwellness.com/coursesSign up for my newsletter to get special offers in the future! -https://www.sarahkleinerwellness.com/contact

May 21, 2025 • 56min
Healing From Mold + A Heart Attack In His 30s | Dr. John Kim
The mold conversation is deeply confusing—especially for people trying to navigate chronic symptoms and figure out where to start. On today’s episode, I’m joined by my friend Dr. John Kim, who shares his powerful personal story of mold toxicity, including how it contributed to a heart attack in his 30s.This conversation goes way beyond the usual detox and supplement talk. We dig into what most practitioners miss: the foundations of circadian biology, quantum biology, and the body’s terrain—especially at the mitochondrial level. Dr. Kim shares how he healed himself and how he now helps clients approach mold illness from a truly root-cause perspective.Check Out Dr. Kim’s Mold Course: https://www.kimwellness.co/SARAHKLEINER & use code: SARAH - $250 off the course Topics Discussed:Can mold exposure cause a heart attack or serious cardiovascular issues?How does mold toxicity impact mitochondrial function and energy levels?What is the connection between circadian rhythm, sunlight, and mold recovery?What supplements and lifestyle changes support healing from mold illness?How can trauma and nervous system dysregulation make mold symptoms worse?Sponsored By: Viva Rays | Go to vivarays.com & use code: YOGI to save 15%Bon Charge | Click here & use code for SARAHKLEINER for 15% off storewide.Black Lotus Shilajit | Visit: www.blacklotusshilajit.com and Use Code: SARAHK for 15% the entire site!Timestamps: 00:00:00 - Introduction 00:05:13 - Dr. John’s mold induced heart attack 00:10:21 - Childhood trauma & cardiovascular health 00:12:30 - Understanding symptoms 00:13:20 - Disregulated nervous system00:14:48 - Nervous system work & cold plunge 00:16:16 - Supplementation and mold 00:23:04 - Circadian health00:24:51 - Vitamin D supplementation00:31:48 - Creatine 00:34:31 - Heart coherency breathing & HRV 00:35:56 - Health basics, HRT, & cortisol 00:39:28 - Thyroid and mitochondrial dysfunction 00:42:04 - The enCORE method00:43:59 - Wellness devices and hacks 00:46:25 - Sunlight and mitochondria 00:50:38 - Listening to your body 00:52:25 - Orthorexia & enjoying your lifeCheck Out Dr John: Check Out Dr. Kim’s Mold Course: https://www.kimwellness.co/SARAHKLEINER & use code: SARAH - $250 off the course Instagram This video is not medical advice & as a supporter to you and your health journey - I encourage you to monitor your labs and work with a professional!________________________________________My free product guide with all product recommendations and discount codes:https://s3.amazonaws.com/kajabi-storefronts-production/file-uploads/sites/2147573344/themes/2150788813/downloads/eac4820-016-b500-7db-ba106ed8583_2024_SKW_Affiliate_Guide_6_.pdfCheck out all my courses to understand how to improve your mitochondrial health & experience long lasting health! (Use code PODCAST to save 10%) - https://www.sarahkleinerwellness.com/coursesSign up for my newsletter to get special offers in the future! -https://www.sarahkleinerwellness.com/contact

May 19, 2025 • 26min
DOES CARNIVORE CASUE HISTAMINE INTOLERANCE: 7 Root Causes Beyond Diet
Delve into the complex world of histamine intolerance and its surprising links to diet and lifestyle. Discover how the carnivore diet can impact histamine levels and uncover additional factors like circadian rhythms and mitochondrial health. The discussion offers practical solutions, including a health alchemy bundle aimed at boosting resilience in the body. Tune in for personal stories and insights that highlight the holistic approach to overcoming these health challenges.

May 14, 2025 • 1h 9min
Understanding Mold Testing, Remediation Confusion, + A Special Giveaway | Brian Karr From The Dust Test
Struggling to understand mold testing and remediation? You’re not alone. In this episode, I’m joined by Brian from The Dust Test to break down how to accurately test your home for mold, what testing methods actually work (and which don’t), and how mold exposure can impact your health. We cover mold-related symptoms like fatigue, weight gain, and inflammation, and explore how mold toxicity can be linked to chronic illness, anxiety, and even neurological conditions. If you’ve been confused by petri dishes, ERMI reports, or faulty DIY kits, this episode will help you cut through the noise.We’re also hosting a dust test giveaway now through May 24th! The dust test giveaway Or Get Your Dust Test Now from We InspectTopics Discussed:How can I accurately test my home for mold exposure?What are the health symptoms linked to mold toxicity and mold-related illness?Are petri dishes and ERMI reports reliable methods for mold testing?What are the best steps for mold remediation and recovery?How does mold exposure affect weight gain, fatigue, and inflammation?Sponsored By: Viva Rays | Go to vivarays.com & use code: YOGI to save 15%Timestamps: 00:00:00 – Introduction 00:02:55 – Mold at my daughter’s school00:04:06 – Autism, PANDAS & mold link00:06:14 – Mold-related anxiety00:08:02 – Mold sensitivity signs00:11:18 – Chronic illness & healing00:13:25 – Building post-mold resilience00:15:34 – Mold myths & facts00:19:02 – Bad mold removal methods00:21:59 – Dust + home toxins00:23:55 – Where mold hides00:29:20 – Mold remediation steps00:30:28 – Mold, weight gain & leptin00:31:45 – Mold toxicity symptoms00:36:28 – Sickness from mold exposure00:39:05 – EZ water & mitochondria00:41:12 – Petri dish test issues00:45:10 – Dust testing benefits00:47:45 – Best time to test00:49:36 – Medical tests & detox00:55:10 – Breathing & inflammation00:58:16 – After a positive test00:59:50 – Mold industry scamsShow Links: We’re also hosting a dust test giveaway now through May 24th! Get Your Dust Test Now from We InspectCheck Out Brian:The dust test giveaway www.yesweinspect.comSchedule Your Free Consultation TodayThis video is not medical advice & as a supporter to you and your health journey - I encourage you to monitor your labs and work with a professional!________________________________________Get all my free guides and product recommendations to get started on your journey!https://s3.amazonaws.com/kajabi-storefronts-production/file-uploads/sites/2147573344/themes/2150788813/downloads/eac4820-016-b500-7db-ba106ed8583_2024_SKW_Affiliate_Guide_6_.pdfCheck out all my courses to understand how to improve your mitochondrial health & experience long lasting health! (Use code PODCAST to save 10%) - https://www.sarahkleinerwellness.com/coursesSign up for my newsletter to get special offers in the future! -https://www.sarahkleinerwellness.com/contactFree Guide to Building your perfect quantum day (start here) -https://www.sarahkleinerwellness.com/opt-in-9d5f6918-77a8-40d7-bedf-93ca2ec8387fMy free product guide with all product recommendations and discount codes:https://www.sarahkleinerwellness.com/resource_redirect/downloads/file-uploads/sites/2147573344/themes/2150788813/downloads/84c82fa-f201-42eb-5466-0524b41f6b18_2024_SKW_Affiliate_Guide_1_.pdfMy Circadian App - AppleMy Circadian App - AndroidMy Circadian App - Youtube

May 12, 2025 • 29min
SAFE SUN EXPOSURE: What the internet isn't telling you (Bonus Episode)
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May 7, 2025 • 1h 14min
Hydrogen Bottles, Tablets & Red Flags: What You Need to Know | Mateo Johnson
The biohacking space is booming—but with PEMF machines, red light therapy, and hydrogen products flooding the market, it’s tough to separate science from sales. In this episode, I sit down with Mateo from Axiom to break down what actually matters when it comes to hydrogen therapy. We cover how to test hydrogen water, what to look for in machines and tablets, and some red flags to watch out for when evaluating these products.I also share an update on how hydrogen has been helping my daughter therapeutically. Go to https://axiomh2.com/ref/6/ and Code sarahspring, for tablets - code SarahK Topics Covered: What should I look for when buying a hydrogen water machine or bottle?How can I test the quality and effectiveness of hydrogen water at home?What’s the difference between hydrogen tablets and hydrogen machines?Is hydrogen therapy safe and effective for kids or therapeutic use?How do PEMF, red light therapy, and hydrogen tech compare in biohacking?Timestamps: 00:00:00 - Introduction 00:05:54 - Axiom updates 00:08:41 - Pro sports & other collaborations 00:10:39 - Sarah’s daughter & hydrogen 00:12:16 - Comparing hydrogen machines 00:16:28 - Hydrogen bottles & tablets 00:21:53 - Testimonials 00:27:28 - Brown’s gas & oxyhydrogen 00:33:05 - UV & ozone filters00:35:21 - Mold & maintenance 00:36:57 - Axiom’s hydrogen bottle 00:41:28 - Bubbles & hydrogen water 00:45:41 - Cumulative run time 00:47:45 - Alkalinity & testing 00:51:35 - Hydrogen hype & fear tactics 00:59:55 - Chemical & heavy metal leaching 01:02:49 - At home testing 01:06:10 - Hydrogen tablets 01:08:10 - Drywater Show Links: Sarah’s Hydration Course Further Listening: Alkaline Water Dangers, Hydrogen Healing, + Pro Protocols for Peak Health | Mateo JohnsonHydrogen Myths Busted By World’s Leading Scientist | Dr. Tyler LeBaronSponsored By: Viva Rays | Go to vivarays.com & use code: YOGI to save 15%Bon Charge | Click here & use code for SARAHKLEINER for 15% off storewide.Black Lotus Shilajit | Visit: www.blacklotusshilajit.com and Use Code: SARAHK for 15% the entire site!Check Out Mateo: Go to https://axiomh2.com/ref/6/ and Code sarahspring, for tablets - code SarahK Instagram This video is not medical advice & as a supporter to you and your health journey - I encourage you to monitor your labs and work with a professional!________________________________________Get all my free guides and product recommendations to get started on your journey!https://s3.amazonaws.com/kajabi-storefronts-production/file-uploads/sites/2147573344/themes/2150788813/downloads/eac4820-016-b500-7db-ba106ed8583_2024_SKW_Affiliate_Guide_6_.pdfCheck out all my courses to understand how to improve your mitochondrial health & experience long lasting health! (Use code PODCAST to save 10%) - https://www.sarahkleinerwellness.com/coursesSign up for my newsletter to get special offers in the future! -https://www.sarahkleinerwellness.com/contactFree Guide to Building your perfect quantum day (start here) -https://www.sarahkleinerwellness.com/opt-in-9d5f6918-77a8-40d7-bedf-93ca2ec8387fMy free product guide with all product recommendations and discount codes:https://www.sarahkleinerwellness.com/resource_redirect/downloads/file-uploads/sites/2147573344/themes/2150788813/downloads/84c82fa-f201-42eb-5466-0524b41f6b18_2024_SKW_Affiliate_Guide_1_.pdfMy Circadian App - AppleMy Circadian App - AndroidMy Circadian App - Youtube

May 4, 2025 • 1h 1min
Is hydrogen therapy dangerous? FAQs and Protocols - BONUS episode
Discover the transformative impact of hydrogen therapy on health, with personal anecdotes highlighting its benefits for conditions like autoimmune issues and seizures. Learn about the fascinating science behind hydrogen's action and its safety as a wellness tool. The podcast also dives into practical advice on hydrogen-rich water and innovative product features. Explore family experiences using hydrogen therapy daily and hear testimonies encouraging informed exploration of this rapidly growing holistic approach.

Apr 30, 2025 • 57min
Med School to Mystery Illness: How Nervous System & Mitochondrial Healing Helped | Dr. Jaban Moore
Dr. Jaban Moore joins me to share his journey from being a strong, healthy med student to facing debilitating illness that conventional medicine couldn’t explain. His experience led him to explore deeper layers of health, focusing on mitochondrial function, nervous system regulation, and terrain-based healing.Now, Dr. Moore helps people of all ages build true resilience by optimizing cellular and nervous system health. In this episode, we talk about simplifying wellness, customizing care, and navigating everything from circadian rhythms to GLP-1s and hormone support.Topics Discussed: What causes mitochondrial dysfunction and how can it affect overall health?How does nervous system retraining support healing from chronic illness?What are terrain resets and why are they important for long-term wellness?How can personalized health protocols improve outcomes compared to standard treatments?What role do GLP-1 medications and hormone support play in functional medicine?No Timestamps: 00:00:00 - Introduction 00:03:34 - Dr. Jaban’s backstory 00:08:03 - Mitochondrial health 00:12:14 - Understanding the nervous system 00:15:18 - Nervous system retraining 00:17:57 - The work to support the nervous system 00:20:22 - Terrain resets 00:26:19 - Fad diets & finding what works for you 00:30:02 - Simplifying health 00:34:45 - Importance of custom care 00:36:13 - Circadian health 00:38:51 - Hormonal health00:44:02 - HRT 00:47:14 - GLP1s & supplementation 00:52:17 - Creating health protocols 00:55:48 - Where to find Dr. Jaban Sponsored By: Viva Rays | Go to vivarays.com & use code: YOGI to save 15%Check Out Dr. Jaban: https://www.redefiningwellnesscenter.com/dr-jabanInstagram Facebook This video is not medical advice & as a supporter to you and your health journey - I encourage you to monitor your labs and work with a professional!________________________________________My free product guide with all product recommendations and discount codes:https://s3.amazonaws.com/kajabi-storefronts-production/file-uploads/sites/2147573344/themes/2150788813/downloads/eac4820-016-b500-7db-ba106ed8583_2024_SKW_Affiliate_Guide_6_.pdfCheck out all my courses to understand how to improve your mitochondrial health & experience long lasting health! (Use code PODCAST to save 10%) - https://www.sarahkleinerwellness.com/coursesSign up for my newsletter to get special offers in the future! -https://www.sarahkleinerwellness.com/contact