Second City Works presents "Getting to Yes, And"

Margaret Andrews leads a popular class at Harvard University that she has turned into the book: “Manage Yourself to Lead Others: Why Great Leadership Begins with Self-Understanding.” https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7818568/7818568_2025-11-18-032408.64kmono.mp3 “Leadership is ultimately about relationships.”  “Each new level of leadership requires a new level of us.”  “Leadership is, in many ways, a creative act.” Recent Posts Second City Works presents “Getting to Yes, And” Margaret Andrews – ‘Lessons in Leadership’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Tania Richard – ‘Black Girl from a White Suburb’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Andrew Robertson – Creativity Unlocked .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Muriel Wilkins – ‘Leadership Unblocked’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Anne Libera – ‘Funnier: Live from The Second City’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Click for more

Kelly has a powerful conversation with longtime friend and Second City colleague Tania Richard, whose new book “Black Girl from a White Suburb” looks at race, a life in theatre, loss and finding resilience along the way. https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7808377/7808377_2025-11-11-050917.64kmono.mp3 “People think actors are good liars. We aren’t.” “We believe what we need to get by.”  “There is no other feeling like holding for applause.”  Recent Posts Second City Works presents “Getting to Yes, And” Margaret Andrews – ‘Lessons in Leadership’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Tania Richard – ‘Black Girl from a White Suburb’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Andrew Robertson – Creativity Unlocked .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Muriel Wilkins – ‘Leadership Unblocked’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Anne Libera – ‘Funnier: Live from The Second City’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Click for more

Kelly connects with longtime BBDO CEO Andrew Robertson to talk about his new book: “The Creative Shift: How to Power Up Your Organization by Making Space for New Ideas.”  https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7797861/7797861_2025-11-04-171601.64kmono.mp3 “Every new idea represents a risk.”  “Creativity happens in leaps, not steps.”  “All great ideas sound great – in retrospect.” 

Kelly talks to Muriel Wilkins, host of the award-winning Harvard Business Review podcast, Coaching Real Leaders. Her latest book is called “Leadership Unblocked: Break Through the Beliefs That Limit Your Potential.”  https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7781617/7781617_2025-10-27-031317.64kmono.mp3 “Lasting change comes from within.”  “I want to be clear that coaching is not a substitute for therapy.”  “Our reluctance to engage in self-reflection is often also rooted in fear.” 

Anne Libera, Director of Comedy Studies at The Second City, shares insights from her new book, 'Funnier.' She emphasizes the importance of analyzing comedy for growth and the idea that comedy is a craft that can be taught. Libera defines five key components of comedy and discusses the universal appeal of character-driven humor. She also highlights the ethics of comedy and the need for comedians to develop their unique voice while considering audience sensitivity. Plus, her personal journey of humor amid family hardship adds a heartfelt touch.

Kelly welcomes Richard Thaler, the 2017 recipient of the Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences, to the podcast along with his co-author, Professor Alex Imas, to talk about their updated version of Thaler’s seminal book “The Winner’s Curse.” https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7776933/7776933_2025-10-23-033133.64kmono.mp3 “Rationality is an assumption in economics, not a demonstrated fact.”  “People are not thinking enough about what everyone else is thinking.”  “Roughly speaking, losses hurt us about twice as much as gains.” Recent Posts Second City Works presents “Getting to Yes, And” Margaret Andrews – ‘Lessons in Leadership’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Tania Richard – ‘Black Girl from a White Suburb’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Andrew Robertson – Creativity Unlocked .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Muriel Wilkins – ‘Leadership Unblocked’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Anne Libera – ‘Funnier: Live from The Second City’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Click for more

Kelly welcomes the always provocative Tomas Chamorro-Premuzic back to the podcast to talk about his new book: “Don’t Be Yourself: Why Authenticity is Overrated (and What to Do Instead).” https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7769841/7769841_2025-10-20-020541.64kmono.mp3 “By all means, keep it real – just don’t make everyone else suffer for it.” “Everybody loves change until they have to do it themselves.”  “Most of us inhabit multiple selves.”  Recent Posts Second City Works presents “Getting to Yes, And” Margaret Andrews – ‘Lessons in Leadership’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Tania Richard – ‘Black Girl from a White Suburb’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Andrew Robertson – Creativity Unlocked .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Muriel Wilkins – ‘Leadership Unblocked’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Anne Libera – ‘Funnier: Live from The Second City’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Click for more

Kelly connects with Berkely Professor Toby Stuart to discuss his fascinating new book, “Annointed: The Extraordinary Effects of Social Status in a Winner-Take-Most World.”  https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7759652/7759652_2025-10-14-150352.64kmono.mp3 “Many of us resent where we sit in the food chain.”  “Status begets status.”  “Luck is enshrined in social hierarchies.”  Recent Posts Second City Works presents “Getting to Yes, And” Margaret Andrews – ‘Lessons in Leadership’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Tania Richard – ‘Black Girl from a White Suburb’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Andrew Robertson – Creativity Unlocked .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Muriel Wilkins – ‘Leadership Unblocked’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Anne Libera – ‘Funnier: Live from The Second City’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Click for more

Kelly welcomes the always-inspiring Morgan Housel back to the podcast to discuss his new book, “The Art of Spending Money: Simple Choices for a Richer Life.” https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7746225/7746225_2025-10-06-141525.64kmono.mp3 “All behavior makes sense with enough information.” “Be careful judging how other people spend their money.”  “The best measure of wealth is what you have minus what you want.”  Recent Posts Second City Works presents “Getting to Yes, And” Margaret Andrews – ‘Lessons in Leadership’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Tania Richard – ‘Black Girl from a White Suburb’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Andrew Robertson – Creativity Unlocked .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Muriel Wilkins – ‘Leadership Unblocked’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Anne Libera – ‘Funnier: Live from The Second City’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Click for more

Colin Fisher, an Associate Professor at University College London, shares insights from his book, *The Collective Edge*. He discusses how categorizing people limits relationships and collaboration, echoing themes from the Harry Potter sorting hat. Fisher emphasizes the importance of building trust through task-focused collaboration rather than mere exercises. He critiques both traditional leadership structures and individualism, advocating for shared leadership and open communication to enhance group effectiveness. His research underscores how social sensitivity plays a crucial role in team success.