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Jul 1, 2025 • 0sec
Getting to Yes, And… | Rob Acton – ‘Discovering the Right Cause for You’
Kelly talks to Rob Acton, who pairs businesspeople with non-profit boards and offers excellent advice on making the most of the cause you choose. His book is called “Becoming a Causie: Champion Your Cause Through Nonprofit Board Leadership.”
https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7499930/7499930_2025-07-01-022430.64kmono.mp3
“I think everyone is a potential causie.”
“Passion for the mission is necessary but not sufficient.”
“Notable board service often happens outside the four walls of the boardroom.”

Jun 17, 2025 • 0sec
Getting to Yes, And… | Robert Bordone and Joel Salinas – ‘The Improvised Art of Negotiation’
Kelly sits across the table from Robert Bordone and Dr. Joel Salinas who have written the new book “Conflict Resilience: Negotiating Disagreement Without Giving Up or Giving In.”
https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7475528/7475528_2025-06-17-025528.64kmono.mp3
“The hard truth is that conflict isn’t the problem. We are.”
“Conflict resilience is not comfortable.”
“Implicit bias – kills our curiosity and blunts our ability to listen well.”
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Rob Acton – ‘Discovering the Right Cause for You’
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Getting to Yes, And… | ‘The Improvised Art of Negotiation’
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Steve Magness – “From Whistleblowing to Winning”
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Daisy Auger-Dominguez – ‘Burnt Out to Lit Up’
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Christopher DiCarlo – The Ethics of AI
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Jun 10, 2025 • 0sec
Getting to Yes, And… |Steve Magness – “From Whistleblowing to Winning”
Steve Magness was one of the whistleblowers who brought down Nike’s Alberto Salazar. It was a decision that would cost Steve a decade of his life. It also led him to study the true science of great performance. Kelly talks to Steve about his terrific new book, “Win the Inside Game: How to Move from Surviving to Thriving, and Free Yourself Up to Perform.”
https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7458197/7458197_2025-06-06-180037.64kmono.mp3
“Whistleblowing was miserable.”
“We now occupy a world that is too big for our minds to handle.”
“If we let it, failure brings clarity.”

Jun 3, 2025 • 0sec
Getting to Yes, And… | Daisy Auger-Dominguez – ‘Burnt Out to Lit Up’
Kelly connects with Daisy Auger-Dominguez who once held the position of Global Chief People Officer at Vice Media Group. Her new book is called, “Burnt Out to Lit Up: How to Reignite the Joy of Leading People.”
https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7445519/7445519_2025-06-01-231619.64kmono.mp3
“Everybody wants to manage people until they have to manage people.”
“Management is like a high-wire act of care.”
“Lousy managers equal lousy work vibes.”
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Rob Acton – ‘Discovering the Right Cause for You’
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Getting to Yes, And… | ‘The Improvised Art of Negotiation’
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Steve Magness – “From Whistleblowing to Winning”
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Daisy Auger-Dominguez – ‘Burnt Out to Lit Up’
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Christopher DiCarlo – The Ethics of AI
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May 27, 2025 • 0sec
Getting to Yes, And… ‘Christopher DiCarlo – The Ethics of AI’
Kelly has a fascinating conversation with University of Toronto professor Christopher DiCarlo where they discuss his new book: “Building a God: The Ethics of Artificial Intelligence and the Race to Control It.”
https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7434695/7434695_2025-05-27-021335.64kmono.mp3
“Let me be very clear: the threat from AI of existential risk and annihilation to humanity is very real.”
“The word ‘robot’ is derived from a Czech word for forced labor.”
“AI is only as good as the data sets it is trained on.”
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Second City Works presents “Getting to Yes, And”
Rob Acton – ‘Discovering the Right Cause for You’
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Getting to Yes, And… | ‘The Improvised Art of Negotiation’
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Steve Magness – “From Whistleblowing to Winning”
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Daisy Auger-Dominguez – ‘Burnt Out to Lit Up’
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Christopher DiCarlo – The Ethics of AI
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May 23, 2025 • 0sec
Getting to Yes, And… | Sarah Ruhl – ‘Lessons From My Teachers’
Kelly welcomes renowned playwright, poet and teacher Sarah Ruhl back to the podcast. Sarah is a two-time Pulitzer Prize finalist, a Tony Award nominee, and the recipient of the MacArthur Genius Fellowship. She has a new book, it’s called “Lessons from My Teachers.”
https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7431361/7431361_2025-05-23-032401.64kmono.mp3
“Our phones can give us facts but not story; information, but not relation.”
“Sometimes the teacher is wrong, and you should refuse to do their assignment.”
“Theatre folk exist in a state of perpetual emergency. And yet, it’s almost never really an emergency.”
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Second City Works presents “Getting to Yes, And”
Rob Acton – ‘Discovering the Right Cause for You’
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Getting to Yes, And… | ‘The Improvised Art of Negotiation’
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Steve Magness – “From Whistleblowing to Winning”
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Daisy Auger-Dominguez – ‘Burnt Out to Lit Up’
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Christopher DiCarlo – The Ethics of AI
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May 20, 2025 • 0sec
Getting to Yes, And… | Rosalind Chow – ‘The Doors You Can Open’
Kelly opens the door for Rosalind Chow, an associate professor of organizational behavior and theory at Carnegie Mellon University. Her new book is called “The Doors You Can Open: A New Way to Network, Build Trust, and Use Your Influence to Create a More Inclusive Workplace.”
https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7424276/7424276_2025-05-20-032116.64kmono.mp3
“Mentors talk to you; sponsors talk about you.”
“The key to effective sponsorship is trust.”
“Performance is not the driver of who gets promoted; perceived potential is.”
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Second City Works presents “Getting to Yes, And”
Rob Acton – ‘Discovering the Right Cause for You’
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Getting to Yes, And… | ‘The Improvised Art of Negotiation’
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Steve Magness – “From Whistleblowing to Winning”
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Daisy Auger-Dominguez – ‘Burnt Out to Lit Up’
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Christopher DiCarlo – The Ethics of AI
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May 13, 2025 • 0sec
Getting to Yes, And… | Zach Mercurio – ‘The Power of Mattering’
Kelly speaks with Zach Mercurio, a positive leadership and organizations researcher and Honorary Fellow of Psychology in the Center for Meaning and Purpose at Colorado State University. He has a new book: The Power of Mattering: How Leaders Can Create a Culture of Significance.
https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7412622/7412622_2025-05-12-203922.64kmono.mp3
“We can’t have healthy organizations with unhealthy people.”
“Noticing is an ongoing practice that takes skill.”
“Schedule your good intentions.”
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Second City Works presents “Getting to Yes, And”
Rob Acton – ‘Discovering the Right Cause for You’
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Getting to Yes, And… | ‘The Improvised Art of Negotiation’
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Steve Magness – “From Whistleblowing to Winning”
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Daisy Auger-Dominguez – ‘Burnt Out to Lit Up’
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Christopher DiCarlo – The Ethics of AI
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May 12, 2025 • 0sec
Getting to Yes, And… | Melody Wilding – ‘Managing Up’
Kelly speaks to Melody Wilding, an executive and leadership coach, licensed social worker and a former researcher at Rutgers University. She is a professor of Human Behavior at Hunter College and is a contributor to Harvard Business Review, Forbes, and Business Insider. She has a new book, “Managing Up: How to Get What You Need from the People in Charge.”
https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7397914/7397914_2025-05-05-035014.64kmono.mp3
“Before you can align with others, you have to know what you want.”
“Be fully present during your conversation.”
“You’ll be more successful by listening more than you talk.”
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Second City Works presents “Getting to Yes, And”
Rob Acton – ‘Discovering the Right Cause for You’
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Getting to Yes, And… | ‘The Improvised Art of Negotiation’
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Steve Magness – “From Whistleblowing to Winning”
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Daisy Auger-Dominguez – ‘Burnt Out to Lit Up’
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Christopher DiCarlo – The Ethics of AI
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Apr 29, 2025 • 0sec
Getting To Yes, And… | Sandra Matz – Mindmasters – Big Data and Behavior Change
Kelly connects with Columbia Business School professor Sandra Matz to discuss her new book “Mindmasters: The Data-Driven Science of Predicting and Changing Human Behavior.”
https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7389448/7389448_2025-04-29-140448.64kmono.mp3
“We are fighting for attention. We want to be seen.”
“Behavioral residues are the by-product of our lives.”
“Each of us comes in many different versions.”
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Second City Works presents “Getting to Yes, And”
Rob Acton – ‘Discovering the Right Cause for You’
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Getting to Yes, And… | ‘The Improvised Art of Negotiation’
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Steve Magness – “From Whistleblowing to Winning”
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Daisy Auger-Dominguez – ‘Burnt Out to Lit Up’
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Christopher DiCarlo – The Ethics of AI
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