Second City Works presents "Getting to Yes, And"

Kelly welcomes the always-inspiring Morgan Housel back to the podcast to discuss his new book, “The Art of Spending Money: Simple Choices for a Richer Life.” https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7746225/7746225_2025-10-06-141525.64kmono.mp3 “All behavior makes sense with enough information.” “Be careful judging how other people spend their money.”  “The best measure of wealth is what you have minus what you want.”  Recent Posts Second City Works presents “Getting to Yes, And” Morgan Housel – ‘The Art of Spending Money’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Colin Fisher – ‘The Secret Power of Groups’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Maryellen MacDonald – ‘The Science of Talking’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Martin Dubin – ‘Leadership Blindspots’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Maya Smart – ‘The Reading Crisis in America’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Click for more

Colin Fisher, an Associate Professor at University College London, shares insights from his book, *The Collective Edge*. He discusses how categorizing people limits relationships and collaboration, echoing themes from the Harry Potter sorting hat. Fisher emphasizes the importance of building trust through task-focused collaboration rather than mere exercises. He critiques both traditional leadership structures and individualism, advocating for shared leadership and open communication to enhance group effectiveness. His research underscores how social sensitivity plays a crucial role in team success.

Maryellen MacDonald, Donald P. Hayes Professor Emerita of Psychology at the University of Wisconsin–Madison, dives into the intriguing world of psycholinguistics. She explains how talking sharpens our cognition and the unique flexibility of human language compared to animal calls. Exploring the power of self-talk, MacDonald highlights its role in focus and motivation. She also emphasizes active learning's importance and how children's interactions shape their development, challenging the notion that language change should be resisted. A captivating look at the science of conversation!

Kelly talks to Martin Dubin, a clinical psychologist, serial entrepreneur, business coach, and adviser to C-suite executives and Silicon Valley entrepreneurs, about his new book: “Blindspotting: How to See What’s Holding You Back as a Leader.” https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7711876/7711876_2025-09-16-023416.64kmono.mp3 “Things go well until they don’t.”  “We are not as self-aware as we believe.”  “Your identity is the least fixed part of you.”  Recent Posts Second City Works presents “Getting to Yes, And” Morgan Housel – ‘The Art of Spending Money’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Colin Fisher – ‘The Secret Power of Groups’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Maryellen MacDonald – ‘The Science of Talking’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Martin Dubin – ‘Leadership Blindspots’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Maya Smart – ‘The Reading Crisis in America’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Click for more

Kelly talks to educator Maya Smart about her new book “Reading for Our Lives: The Urgency of Early Literacy and the Action Plan to Help Your Child.” https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7700601/7700601_2025-09-09-031401.64kmono.mp3 “Alarms ring; they don’t teach. And often when an alarm rings for too long, we tune it out.”  “Spoken words are the precursor of all precursors to reading.”  “Praise the process.”  Recent Posts Second City Works presents “Getting to Yes, And” Morgan Housel – ‘The Art of Spending Money’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Colin Fisher – ‘The Secret Power of Groups’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Maryellen MacDonald – ‘The Science of Talking’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Martin Dubin – ‘Leadership Blindspots’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Maya Smart – ‘The Reading Crisis in America’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Click for more

Kelly digs in with author Keir Graff, who has written a new book about a legendary building in the Windy City, “Chicago’s Fine Arts Building: Music, Magic and Murder.”  https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7689385/7689385_2025-09-02-151125.64kmono.mp3 “All passes – Art alone endures.” “You’ll feel as you’ve just stepped out of a time machine.”  “Let the building haunt you; it’s a place where you can feel the energy of the past.”  Recent Posts Second City Works presents “Getting to Yes, And” Morgan Housel – ‘The Art of Spending Money’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Colin Fisher – ‘The Secret Power of Groups’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Maryellen MacDonald – ‘The Science of Talking’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Martin Dubin – ‘Leadership Blindspots’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Maya Smart – ‘The Reading Crisis in America’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Click for more

Kelly talks with psychologist Dr. Adam Dorsay about how connection is our path to a happy and meaningful life. Adam’s latest book is Super Psyched: Unleash the Power of the 4 Types of Connection and Live the Life You Love. https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7678934/7678934_2025-08-26-144234.64kmono.mp3 “Connection is vital for life.”  “Our brains are wired for fear.”  “Time is our most nonrenewable resource.”  Recent Posts Second City Works presents “Getting to Yes, And” Morgan Housel – ‘The Art of Spending Money’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Colin Fisher – ‘The Secret Power of Groups’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Maryellen MacDonald – ‘The Science of Talking’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Martin Dubin – ‘Leadership Blindspots’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Maya Smart – ‘The Reading Crisis in America’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Click for more

Kelly welcomes Shannon Watts back to the podcast. The founder of Moms Demand Action has a new book: “Fired Up: How to Turn Your Spark into a Flame and Come Alive at Any Age.”   https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7654093/7654093_2025-08-19-024333.64kmono.mp3 “Happiness is a temporary state, not a life goal.”  “Women’s desires are hijacked by their obligations.”  “Your fire starts where all your shoulds end.”  Recent Posts Second City Works presents “Getting to Yes, And” Morgan Housel – ‘The Art of Spending Money’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Colin Fisher – ‘The Secret Power of Groups’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Maryellen MacDonald – ‘The Science of Talking’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Martin Dubin – ‘Leadership Blindspots’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Maya Smart – ‘The Reading Crisis in America’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Click for more

Kelly talks to Gary Noesner, a legendary agent who changed the way hostage negotiation was taught and implemented at the FBI. His book is “Stalling for Time: My Life as an FBI Hostage Negotiator” https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7642858/7642858_2025-08-12-022458.64kmono.mp3 “Before we can influence others we must first listen and understand.”  “Listening is the cheapest concession we can ever make.”  “Managing a crisis properly depends on managing information.”  Recent Posts Second City Works presents “Getting to Yes, And” Morgan Housel – ‘The Art of Spending Money’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Colin Fisher – ‘The Secret Power of Groups’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Maryellen MacDonald – ‘The Science of Talking’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Martin Dubin – ‘Leadership Blindspots’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Maya Smart – ‘The Reading Crisis in America’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Click for more

Kelly connects with James Cordova, a Distinguished Professor of Psychology at Clark University. His new book is “The Mindful Path to Intimacy: Cultivating a Deeper Connection with Your Partner.”   https://serve.castfire.com/audio/7560511/7560511_2025-08-05-152611.64kmono.mp3 “Attention is the most basic form of love.”  “Vulnerability is not for the faint of heart.”  “Deep listening is a radically selfless act.”  Recent Posts Second City Works presents “Getting to Yes, And” Morgan Housel – ‘The Art of Spending Money’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Colin Fisher – ‘The Secret Power of Groups’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Maryellen MacDonald – ‘The Science of Talking’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Martin Dubin – ‘Leadership Blindspots’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Maya Smart – ‘The Reading Crisis in America’ .cls-7{fill:#fff;fill-rule:evenodd} Click for more