This is Fine! A podcast about resilience engineering and software

Fred Hebert, Staff SRE at Honeycomb.io and technical author, brings a wealth of knowledge in resilience and distributed systems. He discusses the impact of the DORA report on software engineering and workplace culture. The conversation delves into the nuances of burnout, emphasizing self-care amidst rapid technological change. They analyze the complexities of AI adoption in the workplace, highlighting trust issues and leadership styles that can enhance employee well-being. Fred also critiques how corporate interests can skew data interpretation in assessing productivity metrics.

Vanessa Huerta Granda, a technology manager passionate about resilience engineering, shares her insights on navigating metrics in incident management. She discusses the challenges of code freezes and the importance of adaptable metrics. Vanessa emphasizes the significance of context when analyzing Mean Time to Recovery (MTTR) and how it can lead to meaningful insights. The conversation also highlights the necessity for better communication between tech teams and executives to ensure effective decision-making based on accurate data.

John Allspaw, a pioneer in resilience engineering known for his impactful work at Etsy and in the DevOps movement, dives into crucial discussions about safety in software. He addresses how traditional safety concepts clash with software development realities. The conversation highlights the necessity of psychological safety for innovation and explores narrative control's role in software perception. They also examine the dynamics of change management in development, including the risks associated with code freezes and fostering open communication during deployments.

In this engaging discussion, the hosts dive into the world of resilience engineering, sharing personal anecdotes that highlight its significance. They tackle the complexities of maintaining uptime and the common misconceptions surrounding it. The conversation turns to navigating job loss, where the importance of empathy and communication shines through during crises. There's also a call for community involvement, inviting listeners to join the conversation and share their experiences in fostering resilience in the workplace.