The Secrets of Statecraft

Caroline Stanley, Countess of Derby, is an English aristocrat and art historian. Affectionately called 'Cazzy,' she shares riveting tales about her illustrious family's 600-year history, including connections to William Shakespeare. They discuss her late husband's travels in North America and the complex dynamics of slavery in the British Empire. The conversation also touches on historical battles and their hypothetical consequences, while revealing fascinating discoveries at Noseley Hall, enhancing our understanding of literature and history.

Joining the discussion is Bret Stephens, a prominent New York Times columnist and founder of the journal Sapir. He passionately argues that defending Ukraine is crucial to U.S. interests. Bret highlights the dangers of the West’s flirtation with authoritarianism and the potential ripple effects of a compromised Ukraine, including emboldened aggression from China toward Taiwan. He also critiques recent U.S. foreign policy, examining the moral implications of relationships with authoritarian regimes while emphasizing the urgent need for capable leadership.

Daniel Samet, the George P. Schultz Fellow at the Ronald Reagan Institute and author of a new book on U.S. defense policy towards Israel, dives deep into the intricate U.S.-Israeli relationship. He highlights how strategic interests often overshadow shared values, examining the historical context of U.S. aid to Israel and its evolving dynamics. Samet also addresses the shifting landscape of Congressional attitudes influenced by younger voters and examines the significant power that weaker nations, like Israel, can exert over stronger allies.

Mitch Daniels is the former Director of the Office of Management and Budget under Ronald Reagan, the former Governor of Indiana, and the former President of Purdue University. He discusses his life, his influences, and his passion for hogs (of the Harley-Davidson variety). Recorded on March 21, 2025.

Richard Dannatt, the former head of the British Army, sheds light on the often-overlooked Korean War, discussing its roots and pivotal moments. He details early North Korean successes and General MacArthur's strategic counterattack that turned the tide. The conversation dives into the British government's choices during the war and how they resonate with current conflicts, especially in Ukraine. Dannatt emphasizes the importance of international cooperation, military investment, and the historical lessons that shape modern defense strategies.

Jon Meacham, a renowned presidential historian and author, dives into the motivations behind iconic U.S. presidents like Jefferson, Lincoln, and FDR. He unpacks Jefferson's complex legacy on slavery and Jackson's populism amid controversies. The discussion also highlights Lincoln's blend of humility and political power during the Civil War and the deep bond between FDR and Churchill in facing global challenges. Meacham even speculates on a counterfactual scenario involving Hannibal Hamlin's presidency and its potential impacts on civil rights.

Ayaan Hirsi Ali, an activist and author renowned for her advocacy of free speech and women's rights, dives into critical issues facing the West. She discusses the influence of tribalism on identity in Somalia and the hurdles women face there. Hirsi Ali critiques the West's missteps in Afghanistan, emphasizing the clash of civilizations. She also explores the need for reform within Islam and shares her personal journey from atheism to Christianity. The conversation covers the implications of immigration policies and challenges posed by contemporary ideologies.

Richard Langworth, a leading expert on Winston Churchill and senior fellow at the Hillsdale Churchill Project, dives deep into Churchill's legacy. They discuss the surprising lack of criticism surrounding Churchill's 150th birthday and his enduring relevance in today's social media landscape. Langworth also explores Churchill's complex decisions during pivotal moments like the Bengal famine and his evolving stance on women's suffrage, with thoughts on the broader implications of these legacies and the exciting project digitizing his writings.

General James Mattis, a former U.S. Secretary of Defense and expert strategist, reflects on modern global instability, drawing parallels to the post-World War II era. He discusses the urgent need to adapt to rapid societal and technological changes while forming alliances to tackle threats. Mattis warns about the 'coalition of the malevolent' among authoritarian states and examines the evolving U.S.-India military partnership amidst rising tensions with China. He also delves into South Africa's shifting alliances and the historical implications of alternate scenarios in American history.

Radek Sikorski, Poland's foreign minister and former war correspondent, provides candid insights into global geopolitics. He discusses the precarious situation in Ukraine, highlighting the threat of nuclear escalation and examining unexpected military successes. Sikorski reflects on Poland's defense strategies amid growing threats from Russia and Belarus, while also addressing the implications of frozen Russian assets on Ukraine’s recovery. He further critiques the diminishing bipartisanship affecting U.S. support for Ukraine and emphasizes the resilience required to maintain democratic integrity in Eastern Europe.