Coming Out Late

Can somatic healing help us on our coming out late journey? Check out part 2 of this week's episode where Robin discusses somatic healing and its benefits with somatic healing expert Lynn Fraser. If you missed part 1, you can catch it here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/coming-out-late/id1589128068?i=1000714770443In this episode, you will learn . . .  What effect has the HIV/AIDS crisis had on the closeted and ‘out’ LGBTQ+ community?Healing from shame and guilt: learn how to regulate our own nervous system; come back into awareness of our own humanity; breathing and somatic inquiry; connection in community like our Coming Out Late Community, and building a strong mind and resilient nervous system.Shame is just another part of our nervous system. We are meant to have an intense experience with shame because the purpose of shame  was to stop us from doing something that will get us kicked out of the tribe.Every culture  has taboos of what you don't do. If you do that, you're gonna get kicked out. Utilize somatic inquiry and ask ourselves: When do I feel shame? What are my experiences with shame?Wanna support your “Coming Out Late” podcast? Then please consider buying Robin a “virtual” coffee as a sign of your appreciation. Simply go to: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglassLINKS to RESOURCES:LYNN FRASER  (she, they). To learn more about Lynn Fraser, her offerings and classes, check her out here:Website: “Somatic Mindfulness Inquiry”,  https://lynnfraserstillpoint.com/Blog: https://lynnfraserstillpoint.com/blogInsight Timer App: https:// insighttimer.com  (Search for Lynn Fraser) Resources and links;  Access to my books and courses; RadicalRecoverySummit and, Join us for Daily Practice 8AM EasternSUPPORT GROUPS:MESSY MIDDLE MONDAYS: EVERY Monday, 75 mins; 8pm EST, Zoom, $10 pp each week via Buy Me A Coffee. Register each week using this link: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglass/e/165736THE GENDER EXPANSIVE EDITION: EVERY Tuesday, 75 mins; 8pm EST, Zoom, $10 pp each week via Buy Me A Coffee. Register each week using this link: https://buymeacoffee.com/robindouglass/e/253374NOT-STRAIGHT SUPPORT GROUP: ON HIATUS UNTIL SEPT. 17th2025 COMING OUT LATE RETREATS:To attend either of these retreats, email Robin: Comingoutlater@gmail.com.PHILADELPHIA, PA: July 25-27, and, GRAND JUNCTION, CO: Sept. 5-8

How can somatic healing help us on our coming out late journey? In this two-part episode Robin discusses somatic healing and trauma, and its benefits with somatic healing expert Lynn Fraser.In this episode, you will learn . . .  What is somatic healing?  Trauma is stored in our bodies as sensations and energy with associated memories, thoughts.How can somatic healing help us on our coming out late journey?Why we’re uncomfortable to go back into our bodies and feel?  We discuss the question: “How can I become more aware-of and familiar-with the sensations and energy in my body?” When inquiring within our bodies,  we can: welcome the sensations and energy in our own body; get to know ourselves on a very deep level, and that our nervous system is always trying to protect us. Somatic Healing has everything to do with being comfortable and knowing what's going on in our body and we, we can release and heal the stored trauma in a safe way by doing that. Wanna support your “Coming Out Late” podcast? Then please consider buying Robin a “virtual” coffee as a sign of your appreciation. Simply go to: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglassLINKS to RESOURCES:LYNN FRASER: (she, they). To learn more about Lynn Fraser, her offerings and classes, check her out here.Website: “Somatic Mindfulness Inquiry”,  https://lynnfraserstillpoint.com/Blog: https://lynnfraserstillpoint.com/blogResources and links;  Access to my books and courses; RadicalRecoverySummit and, Join us for Daily Practice 8AM EasternThe prequel to this week’s episode, dropped last week - have a listen:#185: The Evolution- and Acceptance-of Trauma In Our Societyhttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/coming-out-late/id1589128068?i=1000713694721 SUPPORT GROUPS:MESSY MIDDLE MONDAYS: EVERY Monday, 75 mins; 8pm EST, Zoom, $10 pp each week via Buy Me A Coffee. Register each week using this link: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglass/e/165736THE GENDER EXPANSIVE EDITION: EVERY Tuesday, 75 mins; 8pm EST, Zoom, $10 pp each week via Buy Me A Coffee. Register each week using this link: https://buymeacoffee.com/robindouglass/e/253374NOT-STRAIGHT SUPPORT GROUP: EVERY Wednesday, 75 mins; 12:30pm EST, Zoom, $10pp each week via Buy Me A Coffee. Register each week using this link: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglass/e/931352025 COMING OUT LATE RETREATS:To be put on the email list for these retreats, email Robin: Comingoutlater@gmail.com.-PHILADELPHIA, PA: July 25-27-GRAND JUNCTION, CO: Sept. 4-8

Our coming out journey can be fraught with challenges, loss, little victories, followed up with more stress, anxiety, shame and guilt. What does our society think about these kinds of feelings and reactions? Are they considered trauma-responses? Or are we supposed to just ‘get over it’ or cope with it, independently.In this episode, you will learn . . .  About the differences between Big “T” and Little “t” trauma.How both Big “T” and Little “t” trauma were perceived decades ago, as compared to how society views and distinguishes them ‘today’.What were the few things that were considered Big “T” trauma?What is ‘trauma-informed care’?What does it mean if someone suffers from ‘cumulative stressors’? Holistic & integrated approaches to the rescue! Wanna support your “Coming Out Late” podcast? Then please consider buying Robin a “virtual” coffee as a sign of your appreciation. Simply go to: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglassLINKS to RESOURCES:SOMATIC HEALING w/ChrisTake Care of Your Healing and Self-Care journey by purchasing a packet of 6 sessions of Chris’ Somatic Healing Series. It will be offered six times on Saturdays, (at 10am EST), beginning June 28, and six Tuesdays, (at 12 noon EST), beginning July 1st. Purchasing a 6-pack of sessions for $120, allows you to attend any six sessions listed. To Register, email Chris at: Genderexpansiveyogi@gmail.comSUPPORT GROUPS:MESSY MIDDLE MONDAYS: EVERY Monday, 75 mins; 8pm EST, Zoom, $10 pp each week via Buy Me A Coffee. Register each week using this link: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglass/e/165736THE GENDER EXPANSIVE EDITION: EVERY Tuesday, 75 mins; 8pm EST, Zoom, $10 pp each week via Buy Me A Coffee. Register each week using this link: https://buymeacoffee.com/robindouglass/e/253374NOT-STRAIGHT SUPPORT GROUP: EVERY Wednesday, 75 mins; 12:30pm EST, Zoom, $10pp each week via Buy Me A Coffee. Register each week using this link: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglass/e/931352025 COMING OUT LATE RETREATS:To be put on the email list for these retreats, email Robin: Comingoutlater@gmail.com.-PHILADELPHIA, PA: July 25-27-GRAND JUNCTION, CO: Sept. 4-8

In this week’s episode, Robin talks about the keys to living a serene and fulfilling life. Robin puts on her philosophical beret and covers topics such as “acceptance”, “surrendering”, “expectations” and “letting go” and what in the world does that have to do with coming out late?Give yourself permission to ‘think’ and ‘do’ differently; because we can!Nothing changes if nothing changes.We ALWAYS have options and choices to ‘think’ and ‘do’ differently.It’s how we respond to adversity, to challenge, that defines our character.We must accept we have no control over people, places, things & situations.The key to life, to serenity, and to living a fulfilled life is ACCEPTANCE.We learn how to accept by learning how to surrender; we learn how to surrender by learning how to LET GO.We need to learn how to let go of - and live free-from - ‘desired outcomes’ and ‘expectations’.The myth about chasing ‘ideal outcomes’. What’s the probability of catching our ‘desired outcomes’? What’s the cost of chasing our desired outcomes?We’re not in the CONTROL business - that’s codependency’s job!Wanna support our “Coming Out Late” podcast? Then please consider buying Robin a “virtual” coffee as a sign of your appreciation. Simply go to: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglassLINKS to RESOURCES:SUPPORT GROUPS:MESSY MIDDLE MONDAYS: EVERY Monday, 75 mins; 8pm EST, Zoom, $10 pp each week via Buy Me A Coffee. Register each week using this link: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglass/e/165736THE GENDER EXPANSIVE EDITION: EVERY Tuesday, 75 mins; 8pm EST, Zoom, $10 pp each week via Buy Me A Coffee. Register each week using this link: https://buymeacoffee.com/robindouglass/e/253374NOT-STRAIGHT SUPPORT GROUP: EVERY Wednesday, 75 mins; 12:30pm EST, Zoom, $10pp each week via Buy Me A Coffee. Register each week using this link: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglass/e/931352025 COMING OUT LATE RETREATS:To be put on the email list for these or future retreats, email Robin: Comingoutlater@gmail.com.-PHILADELPHIA, PA: July 24-27-GRAND JUNCTION, CO: Sept. 4-7

In this Part 2 episode, Robin continues her conversation about the importance of developing a money mindset in our lives; especially before, during and after our coming out late journeys. Together Robin and Sabrina, another late bloomer themselves, share their own beginner’s knowledge and personal experiences, not from any kind of ‘expert’ stance. Whether you are in a contractual relationship, a marriage, partnered or non-partnered, it is critical that we late bloomers have a sense of money matters, know our financial rights and have a better understanding of our financial position in our world.In this episode you will learn… What IS a “Money Mindset”? And how/why does that affect YOU?Three steps in budgeting: (1) try to save 10% of your income, (2) know what your monthly fixed expenses are and try to keep them at 50-60% of your income, and (3) put aside about 30% for “spending” or your “fun money”.You can only cut-back your expenses so much, but, can you renegotiate your big, big fixed expenses, (i.e., auto insurance, homeowners insurance, your mortgage to a lower interest rate, rent, etc.); the next question is, can you increase your income at all?Whether you’re a stay-at-home mom, work part time, or even full time, know what value you bring to your marriage and be willing to fight for your value!Know what the rental market is in your area and determine what your income needs to be in order to move out and live on your own.If neither you and/or your spouse cannot afford to move out, then you both need to ask the question, “...how can we meet our needs within the marriage. Are you ok with me seeing someone else and you seeing someone else…?” (a.k.a., ethical non-monogamy).Whether or not you stay in the marriage, there will always be trade-offs. The questions are: What are you financially able to trade-off? And, what are you comfortable trading-off?Wanna support our “Coming Out Late” podcast? Then please consider buying Robin a “virtual” coffee as a sign of your appreciation. Simply go to:https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglassLINKS to RESOURCES:SUPPORT GROUPS:MESSY MIDDLE MONDAYS: EVERY Monday, 75 mins; 8pm EST, Zoom, $10 pp each week via Buy Me A Coffee. Register each week using this link: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglass/e/165736THE GENDER EXPANSIVE EDITION: EVERY Tuesday, 75 mins; 8pm EST, Zoom, $10 pp each week via Buy Me A Coffee. Register each week using this link: https://buymeacoffee.com/robindouglass/e/253374NOT-STRAIGHT SUPPORT GROUP: EVERY Wednesday, 75 mins; 12:30pm EST, Zoom, $10pp each week via Buy Me A Coffee. Register each week using this link: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglass/e/931352025 COMING OUT LATE RETREATS:To be put on the email list for these retreats, email Robin: Comingoutlater@gmail.com.-PORTLAND, ME: June 19-22, 2025 - ONE SPOT STILL REMAINING-PHILADELPHIA, PA: July 25-27-GRAND JUNCTION, CO: Sept. 4-7

Robin has a casual but critical conversation with late bloomer, Sabrina, about the importance of developing a money mindset; especially as late bloomers on our coming out late journeys. Whether in a contractual relationship, a marriage, partnered or non-partnered, it is critical that we late bloomers have a sense of money matters, know our financial rights and have a better understanding of our financial position in our world.In this episode you will learn… What is a “money mindset”? How do you develop a mindset around money? How does it affect you and your future?What's your relationship with money? What has your journey with money been throughout your life? How did your relationship with money first get formed? Do you think you are capable of handling money?What are the 'stories' you tell yourself, [surrounding money], and the automatic reactions you have in your body, [as it relates to money matters.]To develop a healthy money mindset, we must first go through three steps: 1. bring awareness-to our own beliefs around money; what are we telling ourselves about money? 2. Where do my beliefs around money come from? How did your parents talk about money? Were they spenders or savers? 3. Then ask yourself, "Are those beliefs still serving me in my life now?"Improving your money mindset, and becoming proactive about your awareness and understanding of money matters can incrementally impact your future financial security.Wanna support our “Coming Out Late” podcast? Then please consider buying Robin a “virtual” coffee as a sign of your appreciation. Simply go to:https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglassLINKS to RESOURCES:SUPPORT GROUPS:MESSY MIDDLE MONDAYS: EVERY Monday, 75 mins; 8pm EST, Zoom, $10 pp each week via Buy Me A Coffee. Register each week using this link: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglass/e/165736THE GENDER EXPANSIVE EDITION: EVERY Tuesday, 75 mins; 8pm EST, Zoom, $10 pp each week via Buy Me A Coffee. Register each week using this link: https://buymeacoffee.com/robindouglass/e/253374NOT-STRAIGHT SUPPORT GROUP: EVERY Wednesday, 75 mins; 12:30pm EST, Zoom, $10pp each week via Buy Me A Coffee. Register each week using this link: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglass/e/931352025 COMING OUT LATE RETREATS:To be put on the email list for these retreats, email Robin: Comingoutlater@gmail.com.-PORTLAND, ME: June 19-22, 2025 - ONE SPOT REMAINING-PHILADELPHIA, PA: July 25-27-GRAND JUNCTION, CO: Sept. 4-7A NEW COMING OUT LATE OFFERING:“Quieting the Mind & Finding Stability in Your Coming Out Late Process”.A gentle, body-centered somatic healing series, led by Chris, our seasoned Somatic Worker & Yoga Therapist. TWO Saturdays remain.Saturdays: May 31, and June 7. 10am-11am EST.Drop-In Fee: $25/class.Use this links to sign-up: https://buymeacoffee.com/robindouglass/e/398482

In this episode, Robin announces her upcoming celebration of not only another trip around the sun, but also her 10-year Gay-Aversary! Robin can’t believe it’s already been 10 years since coming out to herself over Memorial Day weekend in 2015. You’ll hear about 10 things that Robin learned over the course of these past 10 years and share some personal stories with you as well. In this episode, you will learn . . .  We are not the same person we were when we first came out to ourselves.We are going to make mistakes and have heartache along the way.The importance of “Strategy” and “Timing” on the Coming Out Late journey.Why creating a “Dream Team” is integral to your safety and sanity!Why “Navigating Family Dynamics” and “Boundaries” are important.Education, Self-Acceptance, and Timing are key factors on this journey.  Wanna support your “Coming Out Late” podcast? Then please consider buying Robin a “virtual” coffee as a sign of your appreciation. Simply go to: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglassLINKS to RESOURCES:A NEW COMING OUT LATE OFFERING:“Quieting the Mind & Finding Stability in Your Coming Out Late Process”.A gentle, body-centered group yoga series,, led by Chris, our seasoned Yoga Therapist.6-Consecutive Saturdays: May 3, 10, 17, 24, 31, and June 7. 10am-11am EST.Cost: $120/person for 6-week series; PLUS: Bonus 1:1 Intake Assessment w/Chrisor Drop-In Fee: $25/class.Use this links to sign-up:-Drop-In Link: ($25pp/session)https://buymeacoffee.com/robindouglass/e/398482  SUPPORT GROUPS:MESSY MIDDLE MONDAYS: EVERY Monday, 75 mins; 8pm EST, Zoom, $10 pp each week via Buy Me A Coffee. Register each week using this link: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglass/e/165736THE GENDER EXPANSIVE EDITION: EVERY Tuesday, 75 mins; 8pm EST, Zoom, $10 pp each week via Buy Me A Coffee. Register each week using this link: https://buymeacoffee.com/robindouglass/e/253374NOT-STRAIGHT SUPPORT GROUP: EVERY Wednesday, 75 mins; 12:30pm EST, Zoom, $10pp each week via Buy Me A Coffee. Register each week using this link: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglass/e/931352025 COMING OUT LATE RETREATS:To be put on the email list for these retreats, email Robin: Comingoutlater@gmail.com.-PORTLAND, ME: June 19-22, 2025-PHILADELPHIA, PA: July 24-27-GRAND JUNCTION, CO: Sept. 4-7

In this Part 2 episode, Robin continues her conversation with a coming out late compadre, Jennifer. Jennifer talks about her early upbringing where she not only dealt with extraordinary life challenges but also became acutely aware of her attraction to girls. Social conditioning, compulsory heterosexuality, religion, and other factors greatly impacted Jennifer’s conscious or unconscious decision to ‘shove it,  [her attraction to womyn], down.In this Part 2 episode, you will hear Robin and Jennifer discuss . . .  What it was like; what happened, and what is life like now?conversion therapy disguised as ‘counseling’growing up LDS, (Latter Day Saints)Trusting our inner voice - our intuition.“How do I kill this [attraction for women] without it killing me!”Wanna support your “Coming Out Late” podcast? Then please consider buying Robin a “virtual” coffee as a sign of your appreciation. Simply go to: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglassLINKS to RESOURCES:A NEW COMING OUT LATE OFFERING:“Quieting the Mind & Finding Stability in Your Coming Out Late Process”.A gentle, body-centered group yoga series,, led by Chris, our seasoned Yoga Therapist.6-Consecutive Saturdays: May 3, 10, 17, 24, 31, and June 7. 10am-11am EST.Cost: $120/person for 6-week series; PLUS: Bonus 1:1 Intake Assessment w/Chrisor Drop-In Fee: $25/class.Use these links to sign-up:-6-Week Series Link: ($120pp/6-sessions) + BONUS Comp. Assessment`https://buymeacoffee.com/robindouglass/e/398385-Drop-In Link: ($25pp/session)https://buymeacoffee.com/robindouglass/e/398482  SUPPORT GROUPS:MESSY MIDDLE MONDAYS: EVERY Monday, 75 mins; 8pm EST, Zoom, $10 pp each week via Buy Me A Coffee. Register each week using this link: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglass/e/165736THE GENDER EXPANSIVE EDITION: EVERY Tuesday, 75 mins; 8pm EST, Zoom, $10 pp each week via Buy Me A Coffee. Register each week using this link: https://buymeacoffee.com/robindouglass/e/253374NOT-STRAIGHT SUPPORT GROUP: EVERY Wednesday, 75 mins; 12:30pm EST, Zoom, $10pp each week via Buy Me A Coffee. Register each week using this link: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglass/e/931352025 COMING OUT LATE RETREATS:To be put on the email list for these retreats, email Robin: Comingoutlater@gmail.com.-PORTLAND, ME: June 19-22, 2025-PHILADELPHIA, PA: July 24-27-GRAND JUNCTION, CO: Sept. 4-7

In this Part 1 episode, Robin spends time talking with a coming out late compadre, Jennifer. Jennifer talks about her early upbringing where she not only dealt with extraordinary life challenges but also became acutely aware of her attraction to girls. Social conditioning, compulsory heterosexuality, religion, and other factors greatly impacted Jennifer’s conscious or unconscious decision to ‘shove it,  [her attraction to womyn], down.In this Part 1 episode, you will hear Robin and Jennifer discuss . . .  the effects of familial mental illnessgrowing up LDS, (Latter Day Saints)growing up with no LGBTQ+ representation, at allabout divorce, deceit and moving to another country at the age of 13“How do I kill this [attraction for women] without it killing me!”Wanna support your “Coming Out Late” podcast? Then please consider buying Robin a “virtual” coffee as a sign of your appreciation. Simply go to: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglassLINKS to RESOURCES:A NEW COMING OUT LATE OFFERING:“Quieting the Mind & Finding Stability in Your Coming Out Late Process”.A gentle, body-centered group yoga series,, led by Chris, our seasoned Yoga Therapist.6-Consecutive Saturdays: May 3, 10, 17, 24, 31, and June 7. 10am-11am EST.Cost: $120/person for 6-week series; PLUS: Bonus 1:1 Intake Assessment w/Chrisor Drop-In Fee: $25/class.Use these links to sign-up:-6-Week Series Link: ($120pp/6-sessions) + BONUS Comp. Assessment`https://buymeacoffee.com/robindouglass/e/398385-Drop-In Link: ($25pp/session)https://buymeacoffee.com/robindouglass/e/398482  SUPPORT GROUPS:MESSY MIDDLE MONDAYS: EVERY Monday, 75 mins; 8pm EST, Zoom, $10 pp each week via Buy Me A Coffee. Register each week using this link: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglass/e/165736THE GENDER EXPANSIVE EDITION: EVERY Tuesday, 75 mins; 8pm EST, Zoom, $10 pp each week via Buy Me A Coffee. Register each week using this link: https://buymeacoffee.com/robindouglass/e/253374NOT-STRAIGHT SUPPORT GROUP: EVERY Wednesday, 75 mins; 12:30pm EST, Zoom, $10pp each week via Buy Me A Coffee. Register each week using this link: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglass/e/931352025 COMING OUT LATE RETREATS:To be put on the email list for these retreats, email Robin: Comingoutlater@gmail.com.-PORTLAND, ME: June 19-22, 2025-PHILADELPHIA, PA: July 24-27-GRAND JUNCTION, CO: Sept. 4-7

In this Episode, “Quieting the Mind & Finding Stability in Your Coming Out Late Process”, Robin invites Chris Blais on to talk about a new offering to Robin’s Coming Out Late Community.When you sign up for Chris’ 6-week yoga series, you will learn . . .  the difference between yoga and yoga therapythe importance of self-regulating and how to find stabilityhow to quiet the mind and develop emotional regulation toolshow to regulate catastrophic thinking by connecting our mind & bodies the importance of routine + regularity + repetitionWanna support your “Coming Out Late” podcast? Then please consider buying Robin a “virtual” coffee as a sign of your appreciation. Simply go to: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglassLINKS to RESOURCES:A NEW COMING OUT LATE OFFERING:“Quieting the Mind & Finding Stability in Your Coming Out Late Process”.A gentle, body-centered group yoga series,, led by Chris, our seasoned Yoga Therapist.6-Consecutive Saturdays: May 3, 10, 17, 24, 31, and June 7. 10am-11am EST.Cost: $120/person for 6-week series; PLUS: Bonus 1:1 Intake Assessment w/Chrisor Drop-In Fee: $25/class.Use these links to sign-up:-6-Week Series Link: ($120pp/6-sessions) + BONUS Comp. Assessment`https://buymeacoffee.com/robindouglass/e/398385-Drop-In Link: ($25pp/session)https://buymeacoffee.com/robindouglass/e/398482  Chris Blais: Genderexpansiveyogi@gmail.comRobin Douglass: Comingoutlater@gmail.comSUPPORT GROUPS:MESSY MIDDLE MONDAYS: EVERY Monday, 75 mins; 8pm EST, Zoom, $10 pp each week via Buy Me A Coffee. Register each week using this link: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglass/e/165736THE GENDER EXPANSIVE EDITION: EVERY Tuesday, 75 mins; 8pm EST, Zoom, $10 pp each week via Buy Me A Coffee. Register each week using this link: https://buymeacoffee.com/robindouglass/e/253374NOT-STRAIGHT SUPPORT GROUP: EVERY Wednesday, 75 mins; 12:30pm EST, Zoom, $10pp each week via Buy Me A Coffee. Register each week using this link: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/RobinDouglass/e/931352025 COMING OUT LATE RETREATS:To be put on the email list for these retreats, email Robin: Comingoutlater@gmail.com.-PORTLAND, ME: June 19-22, 2025-PHILADELPHIA, PA: July 24-27-GRAND JUNCTION, CO: Sept. 4-7