Bitcoin Takeover Podcast

Vlad Costea
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Oct 24, 2025 • 1h 48min

S16 E52: Paul Sztorc on Bitcoin's Culture Wars

While the Bitcoin Core v30 vs Knots debate went on, Paul Sztorc was hard at work building the Drivechains software. However, this doesn't meant that he doesn't have any opinions about the recent events and their greater significance. Time stamps: 00:01:30 - Welcome to the Bitcoin Takeover Podcast and Paul's Second Appearance This Season 00:02:28 - Bitcoin Civil War: Core v30 vs Knots Debate 00:03:02 - Nick Szabo Joining the Debate and Ties to Samson Mow's Company 00:04:11 - Op Return Limit Silliness and Historical Bitcoin Uncensored Humor 00:05:21 - Shift in Bitcoin Community: From Subversive to Suit Coiner Route 00:06:02 - Resistance Money, Privacy, and Black/Gray Markets 00:09:18 - Rambling Due to Sickness/Jetlag and Software Demo Tease 00:09:29 - LayerTwo Labs Software Overview and Download Instructions 00:11:55 - Tweet on Turning Transactions into JPEGs 00:13:00 - Bit Window Software Explanation vs Bitcoin Knots 00:15:31 - Bit 300 Activator vs Bitcoin Core Pull Requests 00:17:25 - No More Soft Forks in Bitcoin and Activation Challenges 00:18:23 - CTV Almost Activated, Shift to Filter Debates 00:19:10 - Bitcoin's Potential Death from Complacency 00:19:36 - Derangements of Bitcoin Post and Lightning as Sacred Cow 00:20:02 - Tabconf Presentation on Lightning Network Issues 00:22:52 - Lightning Network Blackpill Article and Updates 00:24:40 - Lightning Cult and Misunderstandings 00:26:24 - Promoting Chaumian Ecash and Human Rights Foundation 00:27:03 - Funding R&D: Ecological Impacts and Bad Ideas 00:29:02 - Maginot Line Example: Funding Bad Defenses 00:30:16 - Drivechains Activation on Litecoin Progress 00:31:58 - Next Tests: Testnet 4 and Forknet Realism 00:32:58 - Litecoin Activation Process and Differences 00:34:49 - Dogecoin Merged Mining and Potential Activation 00:35:26 - Sky Doge as First Drivechain Chain 00:36:50 - Bit Window Advantages Over Knots 00:37:25 - Views on Mining Pools and Game Theory 00:40:05 - Critique of Luke Dash Jr.'s Ideas on Pools 00:41:05 - Transaction Relay Policies and Miner Incentives 00:41:47 - Emotional Manipulation in Debates 00:43:13 - Raising Funding and Different Approaches vs Luke 00:44:02 - Marketing: Funny Videos and Memes 00:45:05 - Luke Dash Jr.'s Character and Expertise 00:46:05 - Experts vs Elites in Bitcoin 00:48:08 - Testing LayerTwo Labs Software on OSes 00:48:38 - Windows/Linux Discussion and Preferences 00:59:30 - ZK Rollups and Data Availability on Bitcoin (Post-Truncation) 01:00:06 - Non-Miner L2s Have No Future 01:01:47 - Drivechain as Minimal, Optional Soft Fork 01:02:55 - Tom Cruise Party Analogy for Bitcoin Upgrades 01:03:08 - Derangements of Bitcoin Post Recommendation 01:03:50 - Viewer Comment: Layer 2s Bad, More Altcoins Needed 01:04:03 - Importance of Competition in Crypto 01:07:02 - Altcoins as Regression Due to Switching Costs 01:08:33 - Sponsor Plugs: LayerTwo Labs, SideShift, Bitcoin.com, NoOnes 01:09:07 - Questions: Why Zcash for Fungibility Sidechain? DAGs? 01:13:35 - Prediction Market L2 and Ambitious Design 01:14:24 - Truthcoin History and Inspiration for Others 01:16:34 - Robin Hanson as Prediction Market OG 01:17:23 - Zcash vs Monero: Code Forks and Privacy Comparison 01:21:30 - Privacy via Decoys vs Pools in Zcash/Monero 01:24:10 - Zcash Advantages for Sidechains 01:26:30 - Zcash Drawbacks Ideal for Sidechain Rollovers 01:27:42 - Zcash as Research Lab for Bitcoin/Ethereum 01:28:07 - R&D as Creative Endeavor Over Funding 01:30:19 - Zcash Launch Story and Roger Ver's Influence 01:31:08 - Truthcoin Parallels and Sidechain Intent 01:32:03 - Maximalist Sacrifices for Bitcoin 01:32:31 - Blockstream's Failure and Altcoin Rise 01:34:29 - Thoughts on DAGs (e.g., Kaspa, Quai) 01:36:20 - SPV Importance and Satoshi's Vision 01:39:05 - SPV Balances Security and Convenience 01:39:59 - DAGs Not Solving Key Scaling Problems 01:42:42 - Shitcoin Definition: Outdated Dichotomy 01:43:53 - Optimism for Bitcoin's Future Choice 01:45:32 - One Coin to Rule Them All Analogy 01:45:38 - Thanks, Wrap-Up, and Jay Berg Recommendation 01:46:54 - Future Live Demo Tease 01:47:16 - Join Drivechain Insiders Telegram Group 01:48:41 - Closing and Thanks
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Oct 18, 2025 • 3h 40min

S16 E51: Sean Bowe on Bitcoin, Zcash & Scaling Privacy with Tachyon

Sean Bowe is a cryptographer and engineer who is best known for revolutionizing Zcash. After cooperating to fix the inflation bug in the first version of the network, he built Halo to remove the trusted setup – basically obliterating the main reason why Bitcoin did not activate the Zerocash soft fork in 2013. More recently, Sean Bowe announced project Tachyon: an ambitious initiative to scale ZK SNARKs (the technology enabling shielded transactions) to billions of users. Time stamps: 00:01:19 - Sean Bowe's Work on Zcash and Hidden Inflation Bug Fix 00:01:36 - Introduction to Halo and Halo 2: Eliminating Trusted Setup 00:01:51 - Overview of Project Tachyon for Scaling ZK-SNARKs 00:02:43 - Zcash Price Pump and Dance Celebration 00:04:48 - Using Zcash for Encrypted Messages via Zashi Wallet 00:05:42 - Comparing Zcash Messaging to Signal 00:07:17 - Sean Bowe's Early Involvement in Zcash and Bitcoin 00:10:34 - Sean Bowe's Age and Start in Cryptography at 21 00:11:13 - Discovering Bitcoin in 2011 and Privacy Needs 00:13:42 - Contributing to BIP 39 with Slush and Trezor 00:14:19 - Realizing Bitcoin's Lack of Privacy 00:17:50 - Privacy vs. Deniability in Bitcoin and Banks 00:20:23 - Wasabi Wallet and CoinJoins Limitations 00:21:46 - Optional Privacy in Zcash and Wallet Defaults 00:23:16 - Viewer Question: Source of Sean Bowe's Smartness 00:24:47 - Viewer Question: Ideas from Scaling Bottlenecks 00:27:09 - Viewer Quote from Oscar Wilde on Privacy 00:28:07 - Viewer Question: Zcash Network State Meaning 00:30:00 - Viewer Question: Timeline for Tachyon Success 00:33:15 - Chronological Approach to Interview and Tachyon 00:37:33 - Differences Between Zerocoin (Firo) and Zerocash (Zcash) 00:39:55 - Greg Maxwell's CoinJoin and Zerocoin Views 00:42:57 - Moon Math and Cryptographic Assumptions 00:46:33 - Sponsor: Citrea ZK Rollup with BitVM 00:47:19 - Sponsor: Layer2 Labs ZSide Drive Chain 00:49:01 - Sponsor: Bitcoin.com News 00:50:16 - Zcash Leads Crypto Rally News 00:58:49 - Bitcoin's Constraints and Creativity like BitVM 01:05:00 - Zcash Contributors and Zebra Rust Node 01:14:00 - Friendly Forks in Zcash 01:31:00 - Monero Hater Comments and Zcash Anonymity 02:23:00 - Superhero Backstory Tease 02:26:14 - Bitcoin Talk Username and Early ASIC Mining 02:28:35 - Pessimism on Bitcoin Development Speed 02:50:41 - Shielded Zcash Dust Problem 02:52:11 - Quantum Resistance and Self-Transfers 02:53:00 - Long-Term Storage Pool for Quantum Safety 02:54:56 - Avalanche Pre-Consensus like eCash 02:55:04 - Tachyon and Oblivious Synchronization 02:58:56 - Scaling to Billions: Math and No Bottlenecks 03:02:12 - Solving Privacy-Scaling Trilemma 03:04:51 - Off-Chain Secrets and Payment Protocols 03:06:24 - Tachyon as New Privacy Pool 03:12:56 - Wallet Syncing with Tachyon Servers 03:14:50 - Shielded Aggregation in Tachyon 03:17:00 - Tachyon Team Size and Hiring Rust Engineers 03:18:41 - ETA for Tachyon: Next Year 03:23:15 - Greg Maxwell Paper Citation Story 03:25:11 - Explaining ZK-SNARKs to Polkadot Cryptographers 03:31:01 - Zcash Governance and No Benevolent Dictator 03:35:06 - Memos Bloating Blockchain and Anonymity Boost 03:38:06 - Zcash Compatibility with Bitcoin Privacy 03:39:01 - Following Sean Bowe: X Account and Blog
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Oct 13, 2025 • 1h 46min

S16 E50: Ray Youssef on Why Paxful's Terminated

On October 1st 2025, Paxful announced the decision to "wind down operations" and blamed the "misconduct" of co-founder Ray Youssef for the company's trajectory. But Ray Youssef had already moved on since 2023, building NoOnes as a non-US entity which better serves the peer to peer needs of the Global South. In this episode, Ray explains what's going on and what he's planning to do next. Time stamps: 00:01:08 - Introducing Ray Youssef 00:01:15 - Discussion on Paxful Termination and NoOnes as a Better Alternative 00:01:29 - Ray Youssef Accused of Undermining Paxful 00:02:54 - Paxful Press Release on Winding Down Operations 00:03:31 - Ray Youssef's Response and Exit from Paxful 00:03:46 - Warnings About Paxful's 3,000 Bitcoin in Cold Storage 00:04:29 - American Regulations Impacting Paxful 00:05:15 - New Indian Team at Paxful 00:05:27 - BitGo as Former Custodian for Paxful 00:05:53 - Dormant Tax Introduced by Paxful (Taxful Pun) 00:08:36 - Ray Youssef's Beard and Hair Discussion 00:09:23 - Expulsion from Bitcoin Church and Fatwa by High Priests 00:10:07 - Bitcoin as Financial and Monetary System 00:10:44 - NoOnes Replacing Financial Pillar for Global South 00:10:49 - Economic Apartheid Concept 00:11:15 - Ray Youssef Homeless When Starting Paxful 00:11:20 - Ex-Co-Founder (Artur Schaback Implied) as Business Partner Warning 00:11:50 - Executive Team Letters Against Ex-Co-Founder 00:12:03 - Attempt to Shut Down Paxful and Handle 3,000 Bitcoin 00:12:47 - Lawsuit by Ex-Co-Founder on Martin Luther King Day 00:13:03 - Accusations and Projections by Ex-Co-Founder 00:13:27 - Fintech Company Without Engineers During Lawsuit 00:14:23 - Ex-Co-Founder Incompetent as CPO 00:15:05 - $1.6 Million from Ray Youssef to Unfreeze Funds 00:15:29 - Delaware Law Firm Handling Paxful 00:15:35 - New Indian CEO Removing Paxful from LinkedIn Bio 00:16:00 - Ray Narrative on BitcoinMagazine.com 00:16:17 - Ex-Co-Founder Raiding Estonian Office 00:18:32 - Kate Grazic Back for NoOnes Partner Program 00:18:57 - LocalBitcoins Traders at NoOnes 00:19:03 - Paxful Family Reunited at NoOnes 00:19:27 - NoOnes Structure Outside the West 00:21:07 - 3,000 Bitcoin Worth $360 Million 00:24:56 - Own Account Bitcoin Disappeared from Paxful 00:24:59 - Solana Contract Issue in January 00:25:04 - Nick Carter Calling Ray Youssef a Clown 00:25:11 - Ari David Paul Accusing Scamming with NoOnes 00:25:24 - Support for Gaza and Palestine 00:25:30 - Nick Carter and Ari David Paul as Zionists 00:26:19 - Hack During Hajj in Medina 00:27:34 - Solana Bug Leading to Hack 00:28:09 - Ray Youssef Driving a Mini Cooper 00:30:42 - Muy from Ghana as Top Advocate at NoOnes 00:33:07 - Victor Schauberger's Work on Water 00:35:43 - WeChat of the Global South (NoOnes Vision) 00:36:27 - Silk Road Comparison (Clean Version) 00:37:28 - CivKit Project 00:37:34 - Nicholas Gregory (CivKit Collaborator) 00:37:41 - Commerce Block 00:38:29 - DarkFi Project 00:38:34 - Amir Taaki (Narodism) as Original Bitcoin Developer 00:42:38 - Roger Ver Attacked by Trolls 00:44:21 - Michael Saylor Meeting 00:45:58 - Adam Back as Skinny Twerp 00:59:18 - Tokenization Experiments by Ray Youssef 01:04:09 - Shelby Cobra 3D-Printed Car Project 01:04:34 - Water Bottle Structuring Water (Victor Schauberger Inspired) 01:06:17 - Malcolm X, Muammar Gaddafi, African Heroes on Wall 01:18:06 - Bitcoin.com News 01:18:43 - Roger Ver Quoted 01:20:06 - Roger Ver as Hero 01:21:03 - Bitcoin Cash 01:23:00 - Lunar the Silver Star (Sega CD Game) 01:23:14 - Garsh Hellcream (Warcraft Reference) 01:24:37 - XMR Bazaar (Monero Marketplace) 01:25:32 - Layer 2 Labs (Drivechains) 01:26:05 - Zcash Sidechain 01:26:12 - Thunder (Big Block Bitcoin Sidechain) 01:27:25 - Citrea (ZK Rollup for Bitcoin) 01:32:57 - Litecoin and MWEB (Mimblewimble Extension Block) 01:33:10 - Bitcoin Cash 01:33:17 - Monero 01:34:12 - Age of Empires (Priest Rush Invented by Ray Youssef) 01:35:52 - Sandy Peterson (Age of Empires Designer) 01:36:06 - USA Stablecoin Act 01:37:02 - Monerotopia Event 01:37:39 - Vitalik Buterin (In Photo) 01:40:17 - Val Venis (WWE Wrestler) 01:41:10 - Taxes Abolished in New World 01:45:15 - Sideshift (Swap Platform)
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Oct 10, 2025 • 4h 15min

S16 E49: Jay Berg on Bitcoin, SidePit & Maximalism

Jay Berg joined Bitcoin in 2010 and became the first person to tweet about BTCUSD when the price hit a new high of $12. In this episode, he talks about why most Bitcoiners are wrong in their recent filter debate and how SidePit aims to fix trading. Time stamps: 00:01:57 - Hot take: Maxis wrong, shitcoining new Bitcoining 00:03:00 - Bitcoin kernel: Litecoin, Ethereum, Zcash, Lightning, Liquid 00:03:23 - Bitcoin failed as P2P cash 00:04:09 - Filters vs. OP_RETURN debate 00:05:18 - Luke Dash Jr. fork prediction 00:05:45 - Original sin: No OP_CTV (BIP 119) 00:06:47 - 2017 civil war: Gavin Andresen, Mike Hearn 00:07:45 - Craig Wright conspiracy 00:08:42 - Wright intro: Bitcoin Belle, Gavin signing (2015) 00:09:32 - Debate with Nick Szabo 00:10:02 - Szabo denies Satoshi; Hal Finney, John Nash possibles 00:11:05 - Civil war apology 00:12:08 - Shitcoiner as new maxi 00:12:42 - Code over 21M meme 00:13:58 - Jay's background: Bloomberg, EURUSD 00:14:49 - 1998 digital cash, double spend 00:15:39 - Fortress HFT 00:17:03 - Bitcoin discovery (2009) 00:18:36 - BTCUSD tweets: Newberg Consulting 00:20:00 - 2010-2014 decentralized era 00:21:10 - Roger Ver adoption (2011) 00:21:30 - BitMEX on 2010 data debates 00:22:01 - OP_RETURN war: Counterparty, Omni 00:22:34 - Ethereum rise 00:23:13 - CP FUD on chain 00:23:36 - Cognitive dissonance 00:24:30 - Ethereum wars: Jimmy Song, Samson Mow 00:25:01 - Ethereum scales Bitcoin tweet 00:27:11 - Plebs control post-2017 00:28:05 - 21M changeable 00:29:06 - BIP 42: Pieter Wuille 00:30:23 - Security budget FUD 00:30:57 - Ethereum VM anti-pattern 00:32:25 - Rock-paper-scissors example 00:35:03 - MEV in DeFi 00:38:12 - Ethereum scales post-war 00:38:45 - Roger Ver buy Core attempt 00:38:52 - Luke Jr. block increase 00:39:38 - OP_CTV from no two-way peg 00:40:05 - Blocked by Adam Back 00:41:36 - Full RBF issue 00:42:10 - Sponsor: Layer2 Labs, Paul Sztorc, Drivechain (BIP 300) 00:42:35 - Sidechains: Thunder, Zside, BitAsset, EthSide 00:43:45 - Litecoin BIP 300 test 00:44:26 - Lightning not Bitcoin 00:45:44 - Sponsor: Citrea ZK rollup 00:46:02 - DeFi, Tornado Cash on Bitcoin 00:47:29 - OP_RETURN bytes need 00:50:02 - Lightning custodians 00:50:58 - Lightning as Bitcoin how? 03:26:01 - Zcash soft fork (2013) 03:26:42 - Trump Ethereum: World Liberty 03:27:50 - BIP 300, OP_CTV excitement 03:28:38 - Stubborn fork potential 03:28:49 - Stamp JPEG issue 03:29:11 - Luke Jr. denial 03:30:28 - No real JPEGs 03:32:24 - Gloria Zhao attack 03:32:54 - Matthew Kratter channel 03:33:21 - Mechanic handler theory 03:34:38 - Luke lost Bitcoin 03:35:48 - Richard Heart Hex debate 03:37:20 - Maxi used ETH 03:37:51 - Gresham's law 03:38:56 - Jason Lowery defense 03:40:31 - Naka, David Bailey 03:41:34 - Maxi cycle 03:42:23 - Cult elements 03:42:52 - Hypocrisy: Dogecoin, Litecoin 03:43:30 - Freedom Index: Monero, Zcash, Pirate, Zano, Nym 03:45:43 - Nym mixnet 03:46:44 - Zano tokens, FUSD 03:48:23 - Roger Ver Zano 03:49:40 - Saberhagen Cryptonote 03:51:55 - Alpha vs beta 03:55:10 - Ethereum leveraged BTC 03:56:21 - Opportunity 03:58:21 - Dorsey funding 03:58:51 - Renaissance or burn 03:59:30 - Number up vs fundamentals 04:00:28 - Success/failure 04:02:17 - Laszlo Pizza fear 04:03:00 - Swaps 04:03:24 - Lightning failure 04:04:30 - Platforms differences 04:05:56 - Shitcoiners new 04:07:20 - No blockchain solve? 04:08:49 - 2010-14 decentralized 04:09:40 - Mt. Gox exchanges 04:10:59 - SidePit swaps 04:11:18 - Follow: sidpit.com, JAYBNY 04:11:51 - Launch Q404:15:01 - Next: Sean Bowe Tachyon 04:15:13 - Sponsors: SideShift, Citrea, LayerTwo Labs, Bitcoin dot com News, Noones
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Oct 7, 2025 • 2h 47min

S16 E48: Christopher Smith on Quantus, Bitcoin & Quantum Resistance

Christopher Smith (aka Yuvi Lightman, aka Ganesha 1024) is the founder of the Quantus network: an mbitious quantum-zk blockchain which he proudly built with his team in just 6 months, with a budget of $500k. In this episode we talk about the threat of quantum computing, how quantum resistant cryptography works, and how Bitcoin can be saved from a potential disaster. Time stamps: 00:01:31 - Introducing Christopher Smith (Yuvi Lightman), known on Soundcloud Music as Ganesha1024 00:02:22 - Quantis: Zero-Knowledge Quantum-Resistant Blockchain 00:02:39 - Christopher's Background, Early Bitcoin Involvement 00:03:41 - Current Views on Bitcoin, All-Time High at $125K 00:04:19 - Discovering Bitcoin in 2012, Contributions to BitcoinJ 00:04:36 - Founding BitMesh: Micropayments via Payment Channels 00:04:42 - Mike Hearn and Payment Channels 00:05:17 - Bitcoin Whitepaper Praise, Satoshi's Genius 00:05:55 - Essence of Money, Overcomplication Critique 00:06:49 - Bitcoin's Corporate Takeover, Cultural Ethos 00:08:38 - SegWit Changes, Big Block Debate 00:09:45 - Bitcoin Cash Sympathy, Shift to Ethereum 00:10:41 - Vitalik Buterin and Gavin Wood as Geniuses 00:10:53 - Lunar Startup: Blockchain Wikipedia with ICO 00:11:08 - Bitcoin Threats: Throughput, Privacy, Quantum Security 00:11:29 - Child Porn Blackmail Tactics in Debates 00:12:18 - Social Bottlenecks in Coordination 00:13:09 - BTC Token vs Network Separation via ETFs 00:14:06 - Proof of Keys Day by Trace Mayer 00:15:23 - No Trusted Third Parties Philosophy 00:16:04 - Cryptography as Military Tech 00:18:04 - Open Source Importance, ERC20 Simplicity 00:19:21 - BlackRock as Central Bank, Cult of Saturn Symbolism 00:20:17 - Bitcoin Threats: Throughput with Shai Reference 00:22:50 - Privacy and Zcash Praise 00:23:32 - Quantus as Bitcoin Fork with Falcon Signatures 00:24:50 - Solana as Big Blocker Inheritor 00:25:04 - Overton Window Constraints 00:26:41 - Quantus Timelines Skepticism, PsiQuantum Investment 00:28:14 - Ethereum Proof of Stake, Stablecoin Control 00:29:27 - Catholic Church Analogy, Satoshi's Time-Buying Quote 00:30:04 - Weaponized Schizophrenia Concept 00:31:09 - Schizophrenia as Catch-All, LSD Benefits 00:32:21 - False Positives/Negatives in Machine Learning 00:33:34 - Arbitrary Thresholds in Science/Medicine/Physics 00:34:46 - Autistic Definitions, Bitcoin Redefinition 00:36:25 - Douglas Hofstadter's Godel Escher Bach Inspiration 00:37:32 - Ads: Bitcoin.com News 00:38:39 - Citrea: ZK Rollup on Bitcoin 00:40:21 - BIP300 Drivechains by Paul Sztorc 00:41:53 - Hacker Ethos, L2 Complexity Critique 00:43:27 - Lightning Network Failures 00:44:22 - Open Source vs Closed Source Thought Experiment 00:47:00 - Check Phrase for Security 01:00:00 - Quantum Mechanics Wave Function Collapse 02:02:17 - Chris Doesn't Sound Like Typical Founder 02:02:50 - Quantus Features: Reversible Transactions 02:05:23 - Check Phrase Innovation 02:07:29 - HD Wallets for Lattice Cryptography, QIPs 02:08:46 - Pro-Social to Industry, Ethereum Ethos 02:09:00 - Ross Ulbricht on Blockchain Decentralization 02:10:00 - Bitcoin Maximalism Critique 02:10:34 - Satoshi on ZK Proofs Efficiency 02:11:01 - Grin Fair Launch, Kaspa DAG Innovation 02:12:16 - Zcash Innovations, ZK Snarks 02:13:25 - Libraries from Zcash, Fluffy Pony Dismissal 02:14:07 - Zcash Made ZK Practical 02:15:36 - Ethereum Net Positive Despite Mess 02:16:04 - Stablecoins as Freezable CBDCs 02:18:19 - Eye-Openers: Iran Banking Struggles, Argentina Tether Use 02:20:40 - COVID Psychology Lessons 02:22:27 - QE Money Printing Realization 02:23:33 - Legal vs Moral, COVID Non-Compliance 02:25:13 - Forgetting COVID Coercion 02:26:36 - Psychedelic Community Enforcement 02:27:47 - Nature's Cruelty 02:28:55 - Vaccine Divisions 02:30:02 - Each Vaccine Unique, Pavlov's Association 02:31:03 - Freedom License Concept 02:32:01 - Agency and Responsibility 02:34:05 - Frustrated Developers, Utility Missed 02:35:07 - User Adoption Challenges 02:36:01 - Funnel for Adoption, Co-Founder Complement 02:37:38 - Check Phrase for Wallets 02:39:04 - Plato on Politics 02:39:46 - Habeas Corpus History 02:40:40 - Optimism: Sunlight, World Complexity 02:41:36 - Manifesting Intentions 02:42:28 - Soundcloud Recommendation, Quantus Docs 02:43:02 - Music Like Pink Floyd's Great Gig in the Sky 02:44:47 - Amir Taaki 7-Hour Record 02:45:43 - Zooko's 6-Hour Interview 02:46:47 - WeaponizedSchizophrenia.com Blog 02:47:00 - Closing Words
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Oct 2, 2025 • 4h 3min

S16 E47: Max Hillebrand on White Noise & Private Messaging on Nostr

Max Hillebrand makes his 8th appearance on the Bitcoin Takeover Podcast in order to talk about his latest project: White Noise, a private messaging application for Nostr. We also talk about Core v30 vs Knots, Bitcoin layer 2s & other bull market topics. Time stamps: 00:01:07 - Max Hillebrand's Background 00:02:47 - Post-Wasabi Wallet Era and Privacy Challenges 00:04:28 - Nostr Protocol Overview 00:05:58 - Early Nostr Experiences and Key Loss 00:08:51 - Nostr Client Progress and Edge Cases 00:09:58 - Nostr's Relation to Bitcoin 00:13:53 - Hardware Wallets for Nostr Keys 00:18:06 - Nostr Key Backups and Security 00:21:53 - Nostr Search and Web of Trust 00:24:21 - Ads: Bitcoin.com News and NoOnes.com 00:26:12 - White Noise Protocol Introduction 00:27:52 - NIP 44 and Gift Wraps for Encryption 00:30:20 - Signal Protocol and MLS Evolution 00:32:16 - MLS Protocol Details 00:33:23 - Nostr Privacy Limitations 00:35:17 - Trusted Relays and Metadata 00:37:25 - Nostr as Data Delivery Layer 00:38:41 - Self-Authentication in MLS 00:40:02 - Group Creation and Key Packages 00:42:38 - MLS vs. Major League Soccer Joke 00:42:53 - Diffie-Hellman and Scaling to Millions 00:44:24 - MLS Key Tree Structure 00:46:59 - Scalability Benefits of MLS 01:18:00 - Marmot and Nostr Tools 01:25:30 - The Zcash Pump Dance 03:09:25 - Angor Protocol for Recurring Payments 03:14:02 - Bitcoin Script and Smart Contracts 03:15:32 - Great Script Restoration Proposal 03:21:03 - Builder Spirit in Bitcoin vs. Ethereum 03:25:19 - Bills of Exchange and Peer-to-Peer Credit 03:33:09 - Historical Finance and Farming 03:38:35 - Starting Bitcoin Meetups 03:41:43 - Localizing Bitcoin Content 03:44:17 - Recommended Podcasts 03:47:48 - Podcast Benefits and Guest Interactions 03:54:39 - Audience Quality and Impact 03:55:36 - White Noise Future and Building Freedom Tech 03:58:51 - AI Coding and Proof of Concepts 04:00:38 - Nym Mixnet Integration 04:01:54 - Closing Remarks and Future Sessions
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Sep 30, 2025 • 4h 33min

S16 E46: Val Venis on Bitcoin, Liberty & Wrestling

Back in 2013, former WWE Intercontinental Champion Val Venis bought 24 bitcoins for $80 each. Today, he is a big advocate for freedom, privacy, and the right to benefit from the product of your own labor without extortion. In this episode, we talk about libertarianism, his love for private internet money, and his WWE stories. Time stamps: 00:00:00 - Intro: Val Venis Entrance & Attitude Era Reflections 00:01:51 - Hello Biological Ladies: Modern PC Culture & Twitter Feuds 00:02:46 - Wrestling Eras: From Attitude to Ruthless Aggression & PG Shift 00:03:30 - Political Outspokenness: Why No Hall of Fame Yet? 00:04:35 - Importance of Politics: Social & Financial Impacts on Society 00:05:13 - Val Venis Character: Porn Star Gimmick Ahead of Its Time 00:05:36 - Right to Censor Storyline: Mocking the PTC & Censorship Trends 00:09:51 - Libertarian Roots: Pro-Free Speech Evolution in Wrestling 00:10:03 - Early Political Views: From Socialist Leanings to Awakening 00:11:32 - Tax Trauma at 17: First Encounter with Government Overreach 00:15:13 - Taxation as Immoral: Due Process Failures & Slanted Courts 00:18:45 - Wikipedia Misrepresentation: Beyond Cannabis Advocacy 00:20:02 - Cannabis as Rebellion: Fighting Malum Prohibitum Laws 00:24:24 - Privacy Coins & Freedom: Using Cannabis to Push Liberty 00:30:05 - Slanted Courts & Tyranny: Presumptions Over Facts in Taxation 00:33:30 - Discovering Bitcoin: From Federal Reserve Critique to White Paper 00:35:12 - Money as Bankers' Tool: Inflation as Value Theft via Fiat 00:38:00 - Bitcoin's Appeal: Decentralized, Fixed Supply & Cryptography 00:41:47 - Pizza Purchase Milestone: Bootstrapping Bitcoin to Fiat 00:43:57 - First Bitcoin Buy: 24 BTC in 2013 at ~$80 Each 00:47:48 - Bitcoin as Speculation vs. Fiat Alternative 00:49:38 - Wrestling & Bitcoin Parallels: Value Creation & Sovereignty 01:20:00 - Monero & Privacy: Evading Surveillance in Transactions 01:45:00 - Roger Ver Case: Libertarian Views on Tax Evasion & Justice 02:10:00 - Wrestling Highlights: Val Venis in Video Games & Stats 02:48:00 - Mount Rushmore: Vince McMahon, Hulk Hogan, Stone Cold, The Rock 03:00:00 - Chris Benoit's Legacy: Wrestling Prowess Despite Tragedy 03:15:00 - Shawn Michaels Character Shift: From Annoying to Faithful 03:30:00 - Undertaker's Success: Vince's Protection & Longevity 03:45:00 - Triple H: Business Savvy Over In-Ring Dominance 04:00:00 - Hall of Fame Hopes: Focus on Liberty Over Induction 04:10:00 - One Last Match: vs. Cody Rhodes for Cancel Culture Feud 04:18:07 - Induction Choice: Vince McMahon or Vince Russo 04:20:19 - Bridging Communities: Bitcoin in Wrestling & Fan Demands 04:25:40 - Storyline Ideas: Libertarian Manager & Bitcoin Matches 04:30:20 - Closing: Social Media, Zcash Wallet Setup & Privacy Push
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Sep 25, 2025 • 8h 29min

S16 E45: Shai Wyborski on Bitcoin, Kaspa & Proof of Work Research

Shai Wyborski is one of the three co-authors of the GHOSTDAG paper, and a man who takes pride in his independent thinking and divergent approach to research. As a PhD in quantum cryptography, he's got lots of knowledge to share. But by virtue of his involvement in Bitcoin and Kaspa, he's got stories to tell too. What does the future of Proof of Work look like? Let's find out! Time stamps: 00:01:09 - Welcoming Shai Wyborski 00:01:28 - Dig into GhostDAG; most interesting PoW scaling tech. 00:04:44 - Shai's BTC opinions over time 00:05:21 - How Shai spent BTC on "creativity fuel" (undisclosed). 00:06:31 - Disenchantment: Steam drops BTC (congestion/volatility); SegWit "tyranny" births BCH. 00:10:47 - Rejects SoV; BTC as "decentralized vault" for eternal data archiving. 00:15:44 - BTC probs: Low TPS; LN fails. 00:16:15 - Kaspa suite: Beyond TPS/confirmations. 00:16:59 - Tradeoff: High throughput → no audit; pruning for 10-30yr trust. 00:18:40 - GhostDAG multi-ledger: Parallel processing, flexible tx order. 00:19:45 - Miners: Partial info cuts selfish mining/MEV. 00:20:42 - Enables auctions/oracles (Elliot Mabe block-voting). 00:21:40 - Debunks PoW myths: BTC artifacts (congestion for fees). 00:22:15 - Kaspa: Paradigm shift proof; lessons from protocols. 00:23:24 - Flaw: Fast emission + fair launch = whale buyout. 00:23:49 - Fair ≠ community; coercion w/o social contract. 00:25:10 - Whales fund → control; monetary world nature. 00:27:46 - Balance: Incentives, explicit contracts. 00:30:31 - Mining phases: CPU/GPU/ASIC stages; ultra-ASIC decen lock. 00:32:22 - ASIC-friendly: Cheap/low-power scale. 00:32:47 - Emission: Heavy early; ASICs 80-90% pre-retail. 00:34:29 - Full supply lifetime; tail short?00:35:28 - BTC emission extend 2-4x for social good. 00:37:27 - Kaspa whales: 3 hold 6% ($100M), foundation collusion. 00:38:27 - Kaspa emission: 60% in 1.5yrs emulates BTC adjusted for fast adoption. 00:41:16 - Guitar jam & sponsors.SideShift.ai: KYC-free swaps. NoOnes.com: P2P global south, "lions" mission. Bitcoin.com News: global views. LayerTwo Labs: Drivechains, ETH/Zcash sides. 00:46:49 - Kaspa drivechain?; WBTC custody risks. 00:48:33 - Citrea: ZK-rollup BTC DeFi. 00:49:27 - Alts: Quai grant, Kadena parallels. 00:50:47 - Parallel sec dilution. 00:52:03 - Quai: Selfish mining fixes, Monero 28% vuln. 00:53:01 - Monero RandomX ASIC-hostility. 00:54:02 - PoW specialized non-wasteful. 01:00:00 - Myths: Scalable, non-congested, decentralization. 01:15:00 - Casino stifles ingenuity; hype vs depth (IOTA rush). 01:30:00 - Funding: Retail quick vs VC long (Mobileye 20yr $80B). 01:45:00 - Game theory: Mechanism design incentives. 02:00:00 - Kaspa risks: Whale control, docs issues. 07:00:00 - Music: Beatles Sgt. Pepper post-Pet Sounds. 07:15:00 - McCartney bass; prog Floyd/Crimson.07:30:00 - Pet Sounds "God Only Knows" acapella. 07:43:02 - Pop→exp; Helter Skelter metal. 07:45:36 - Metal thrash/extreme; stoner Pantheon I. 07:47:41 - HS Pantera/prog/funk.07:49:51 - Concerts: Aristocrats, AC/DC; Dylan regret. 07:52:39 - Misses: Jethro Tull/Motörhead; Bon Jovi meh. 07:55:16 - Grunge: Nirvana In Utero, Soundgarden. 07:58:11 - Smashing Pumpkins trilogy; Corgan drama. 08:00:00 - Timeless tees; Doors sloppy; Zep Moby Dick. 08:02:40 - Zappa Inca Roads/Stink-Foot. 08:07:19 - AI scans/drones; govt bans. 08:12:08 - Radical: Vault, SoV, ultra-ASIC. 08:14:02 - PoW scalable/non-wasteful.08:15:00 - Fair vs community; casino timing punish. 08:17:40 - Narratives over fundamentals; retail vs VC. 08:21:07 - Record 8h21m+; ramble praise. 08:21:50 - Q&A: Kaspa 10yr alive, adapt. 08:22:24 - Beatles Kaspa? Pruning no. 08:23:44 - Game theory mechanism design. 08:26:09 - Work: Consulting, patents, Tectonic quantum.08:29:23 - Quai edu grant, freelance. 08:31:17 - KAS +3% pump; past dumps. 08:31:58 - Quai minor pump; negative effects. 08:33:34 - First interview 0.15→0.5¢; 13 KAS dons. 08:34:21 - Jam: Theme rock, lag. 08:38:07 8h39m record! Sponsors recap. 08:40:00 - Next interview with Val Venis on Monero/WWF; banter.
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Sep 17, 2025 • 3h 19min

S16 E44: Abdel on ZK STARKs & Bitcoin Maximalism

Abdel is a Starkware engineer who, over the last 7 years, went from building EIP 1559 on Ethereum to becoming a Bitcoin maximalist who wants ZK STARKs to happen. In this episode, we talk about his journey & some of Bitcoin's cultural issues. Time stamps: 00:00:59 - Sponsors: Sideshift, Citrea, Bitcoin.com News, LayerTwo Labs, NoOnes.com 00:01:38 - Abdel's unique journey: From Ethereum core dev at ConsenSys to Bitcoin maximalism 00:02:17 - Early Bitcoin curiosity (2011-2012) vs Ethereum's "world computer" appeal 00:03:51 - Fintech background: Working for banks before fighting them 00:04:31 - Always a Bitcoin + Ethereum maxi: Building unstoppable systems 00:06:07 - North Star vs "Nostr": Unstoppable vs compromised systems 00:06:23 - Fintech to DeFi? Payments focus, not advanced trading 00:07:29 - First Ethereum contributions: Smart contracts 00:09:09 - Deep dive: Championing EIP-1559 (fee burn, ultrasound money) 00:11:03 - EIP-1559's governance risks: Changing monetary policy on the fly 00:11:16 - Ethereum's slippery slopes: DAO hard fork to fee burns 00:12:12 - Ethereum as anti-Bitcoin experiment: From colored coins to rollups 00:13:48 - Ethereum Classic hopes; market follows narratives, not fixed supply 00:14:28 - EIP-1559 process: 2+ years of debate vs Bitcoin's immutability 00:15:59 - Boiling frog with Vitalik: Accumulating compromises (trusted setups) 00:18:28 - Ethereum precedents: Premine, PoS migration, rushed upgrades 00:19:14 - Social layer strength: Protects core principles vs nation-states 00:19:41 - Non-tech users in governance: Better than dev-only control 00:22:32 - Educating the social layer: Privacy warnings in Bitcoin tools 00:24:26 - Risks: Bitcoin (tech obsolescence) vs Ethereum (social dilution) 00:26:49 - Bitcoin meetups: Ideology & tech vs Ethereum's builder focus 00:28:00 - Shocking anti-Bitcoin sentiment from Ethereum side 00:29:52 - PoW beauty: External entropy, fair distribution (not Ponzi) 00:31:44 - PoW vs PoS: Tolerating Ethereum's PoS for decentralization 00:34:20 - Bitcoin's privacy crisis: Needs scale + affordability 00:36:43 - Sponsor: Layer2 Labs (Drivechains for sidechains like Zcash fork) 00:38:02 - Sponsor: Citrea (ZK rollup on Bitcoin via BitVM2) 00:40:09 - Citrea drama: Unfair criticism amid filter wars 00:42:40 - Citrea vs Alpen: First-to-market wins (garbled circuits delay) 00:46:01 - Video game analogy: Duke Nukem Forever vs pragmatic launches 00:47:25 - Lesson from Ethereum: Optimistic rollups dominate despite ZK superiority 00:48:56 - Dev events vs mainstream: Bridging tech narratives to plebs 01:10:00 - Fragmentation in Bitcoin community, why plebs dismiss innovation 02:30:00 - Off-topic: Immigration in Europe (Romania/France parallels, economic pressures) 02:38:16 - Bitcoin as catalyst: Inflation from crises drives adoption 02:39:46 - Decentralization as development sign: Small-scale consensus 02:42:11 - New chains start centralized; trust incentives lacking in L2s 02:44:41 - Starkware as bridge to Bitcoin: Pre-existing interest 02:45:57 - Elevator pitch: STARK proofs for Bitcoin (open-source, battle-tested) 02:48:21 - Endgame: Verify STARKs on Bitcoin for programmability + privacy 02:49:52 - Meme magic: One STARK proof is smaller in size than a photo, costs less than a Big Mac, can be verified in a blink 02:52:29 - STARKs vs SNARKs: No trusted setup, quantum-secure, hash-based 02:54:31 - Experiments: Cashu with STARKs (private programmable e-cash) 02:58:37 - Nostr DVMS: Verifiable AI/services in permissionless marketplace 03:01:16 - Cashu origin story: Bar chat with Calle to Jack Dorsey endorsement 03:03:16 - Cashu honesty: Not scaling, but privacy bridge vs custodians 03:06:25 - Nihilism in Bitcoin: Mental gymnastics vs Ethereum's build-first ethos 03:07:48 - Permission culture: Asking nodes for ZK proofs/Lightning channels 03:08:27 - Event split: Dev confs (BTC++) vs narrative fests (BTC Prague) 03:10:29 - Why invest without understanding? Newbie wave acceleration 03:11:23 - Niche value: In-between content bridges extremes 03:13:48 - Who listens matters: Robin Linus' DM is more important than mass views 03:16:07 - Still early days: 16 years in, aim for 1B daily users 03:16:39 - Special word: "Grinta" (grit mindset) for full listeners 03:18:14 - Outro: Thanks & next: Shai on PoW improvements
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Sep 12, 2025 • 1h 49min

S16 E43: Vikrant Sharma on Cake Wallet, Bitcoin & Privacy

Vikrant Sharma, better known as Vik, is the CEO and founder of Cake Wallet: the first Bitcoin wallet to support both Silent Payments and PayJoins. In this episode, we talk about the wallet's Monero roots & what is next in terms of features. Time stamps: 00:01:05 - Introducing Vik 00:01:24 - Cake Wallet Features for Bitcoin and Monero 00:03:08 - Background Sync Improvements 00:03:49 - Monero.com Wallet Discussion 00:04:41 - Monero Community Insights 00:05:01 - Privacy in Monero Transactions 00:06:33 - Funding and Revenue Model 00:08:29 - Vik's Background in Steel and Tech 00:10:34 - Discovering Bitcoin and Privacy Apps 00:13:22 - Launching Cakewallet for Monero 00:14:23 - Why Start with Monero Over Bitcoin 00:15:35 - Origin of the Name "Cake Wallet" 00:17:36 - Order of Coins Added to Cake Wallet 00:19:09 - PayJoins and Silent Payments 00:21:11 - Citrea 00:22:34 - Layer 2 Labs and Drivechains 00:24:32 - Silent Payments Address Drama 00:25:35 - Qubic Mining Drama in Monero 00:30:42 - Monero's Resilience to Attacks 00:32:53 - Monero as a Stablecoin 00:33:41 - Use It to Win: Spending vs Hodling 00:36:38 - Treasury Company Plans 00:39:28 - Future of Privacy Coins 00:42:58 - SideShift.ai 00:44:20 - NoOnes.com 00:45:29 - Bitcoin.com News 00:46:37 - Taxes and Privacy Coins 00:48:42 - Layers of Privacy 00:59:00 - Zcash and Privacy Experiments 01:00:36 - Growing the Crypto Space 01:02:44 - Supported Coins: Ethereum 01:06:17 - Litecoin and MWEB Integration 01:08:43 - Dogecoin Addition 01:10:37 - Wownero for Monero Community 01:11:17 - Bitcoin Cash Support in Cake Wallet 01:13:30 - Polygon and Tron for Low Fees 01:15:44 - Nano for Feeless Payments 01:17:00 - Decred and Community Overlap 01:18:14 - Zano and Confidential Assets 01:20:06 - Lightning Network Plans 01:21:46 - Zcash Future Integration 01:23:02 - Cupcake Airgapped Wallet 01:26:00 - Considering Kaspa 01:29:56 - Dash Privacy Debate 01:32:20 - Network Effects and Wallet Choices 01:34:57 - Raven Coin Experiment 01:35:43 - Hiring Developers 01:36:18 - Custom Wallpapers and UI Overhaul 01:37:12 - One Seed for All Wallets 01:38:31 - How Many of the Supported Coins Will Survive? 01:39:46 - Multi-Coin Payment Services 01:40:32 - Pay Invoice Feature 01:42:03 - User Data and Privacy Policy 01:45:49 - Node Data Handling 01:47:04 - Advice on Self-Custody 01:48:17 - Where to Follow Vik and Cake Wallet 01:48:51 - Closing Remarks

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