
Bitcoin Takeover Podcast S17 E3: Zano Devs on Private Tokenization
Jan 19, 2026
03:54:48
Andrey Sabelnikov and Valeriy Pisarkov are the core devs of Zano: a privacy network which enables users to create tokens with privacy. The project's mix of Cryptonote and Zarcanum protocols can also enable private transfers of bridged BTC.
In this episode, we talk about how this system works and we inquire about the tradeoffs involved.
Time stamps:
00:01:51 – Introduction & Setting the Record Straight
00:02:51 – Val & Andre’s Backgrounds, CryptoNote Origins
00:03:53 – Problems with Bytecoin & Monero’s Launch
00:05:28 – Zano’s Strategic Directions & AI Security Challenges
00:08:51 – Val’s Role in Zano & Technical Evolution
00:13:45 – Network-Level Privacy Incident
00:19:15 – Proof-of-Work vs. Proof-of-Stake Privacy
00:24:11 – Zano vs. Monero: Not a Fork
00:29:22 – Monero Community Criticism & Scam Allegations
00:40:44 – Boolberry Project & Coin Swap
00:43:36 – Premine & Staking Controversy
00:48:29 – Tribalism & Ideology in Privacy Coins
00:53:21 – Differences Between Boolberry and Zano
00:57:32 – Wallet Support vs. Exchange Listings
01:01:03 – Exchange Listing Challenges & Gateway Addresses
01:04:20 – Gateway Addresses & Hard Fork 6
01:11:52 – Upcoming Roadmap: Proof-of-Stake & Full Chain Membership Proofs
01:17:40 – Bridging Bitcoin & Confidential Assets
01:27:52 – Asset Whitelisting & Stablecoin Risks
01:41:01 – Confidential Layer Bridge & Multi-Party Computation
01:51:21 – Zano’s Scalability, Throughput, and Future Vision
01:59:08 – Full Chain Membership Proofs & Quantum Resistance
02:09:17 – Tech Stack Choices & Adaptability
02:27:07 – Why Be Bullish on Zano?
02:54:48 – DeFi Listings, Gateway Addresses, and Privacy Trade-offs
03:19:59 – Network-Level Privacy, Dandelion, and Mixnets
03:26:46 – VPNs, Network Privacy Tools, and Community Integration
03:44:03 – Personal Stories, Early Computing, and Closing Remarks
