
Bitcoin Takeover Podcast
On the Bitcoin Takeover podcast you're going to hear the builders and innovators who make the Bitcoin project valuable. It's thanks to their work that the BTC price goes up, and it's their efforts that convince large investors that Bitcoin is the future of money. Here you will find the projects and ideas that will radically improve Bitcoin in the future, presented by the creators and innovators themselves. Time to learn!
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Apr 21, 2025 • 1h 6min
S16 E21: Filip Baturan on Tanari, Citrea & DeFi on Bitcoin
Filip Baturan is the CEO of Tanari – a decentralized finance application suite that's built on top of Citrea. With it, bitcoiners can enjoy the features and user experience from banking applications such as Revolut... but within a self-custodial and sovereign environment, where the user sets the rules.
The discussion centers around Tanari's vision to make Bitcoin more useful and replace the current financial system, contrasting it with projects that merely embed Bitcoin into existing structures. Baturan explains that Tanari aims to deliver on Bitcoin's promise of self-custody and financial system replacement, drawing inspiration from the ideal financial system rather than specific products like Revolut.
We talk about Tanari's features: including secure Bitcoin storage, spending capabilities, and integration with the Bitcoin ecosystem (Citrea, Bitcoin mainnet, Lightning Network). The platform prioritizes ease of use, employing Face ID/fingerprint authentication and social recovery methods. The interview also covers the potential for financial primitives like lending, borrowing, and Bitcoin-backed stablecoins, all within a transparent framework.
The discussion also addresses the challenges of balancing user-friendliness with privacy and security, particularly regarding usernames and potential transaction traceability. Filip Baturan emphasizes Tanari's commitment to open-source principles, sustainable business models, and integration with other Citrea applications. The interview concludes with Filip sharing his background in ZK rollups on Ethereum and his enthusiasm for building on Bitcoin with Citrea, highlighting the unique opportunities presented by this technology.
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Time stamps:
00:00:53 - Introducing Filip Baturan
00:02:04 - Tanari's Origin and Citrea
00:05:30 - Ease of Use and Recovery Methods
00:08:20 - Tanari's Features
00:11:04 - Open Sourcing and Fees
00:12:19 - Citrea Integration and Usernames
00:15:24 - On-Chain Interoperability
00:17:19 - Lightning Network Integration
00:19:02 - Business Solutions and Competitive Advantages
00:21:22 - Custody and Decentralization
00:24:48 - Reputation and Social Media Integration
00:29:22 - Filip's Background
00:37:53 - Scalability and Settlement Time
00:41:44 - Trade-offs and Self-Ownership
00:48:00 - Swapping Services
00:51:46 - Future of Bitcoin and Tanari
01:02:10 - Tanari's Name and Meaning

Apr 18, 2025 • 1h 36min
S16 E20: Felix Billbert on Wave Space & Spending Bitcoin
Felix Billbert is the Chief Maximalist at Wave Space: a European company which specializes in making bitcoin easy to spend. They offer a Visa debit card, a swapping service for BTC/EUR pair, Lightning network support... all of which is wrapped inside a non-custodial environment.
The conversation explores the challenges of building a Bitcoin business in Europe, particularly navigating regulations like MiCA. Felix explains how Wave Space partners with a licensed entity to handle KYC/AML compliance, including the complexities of verifying the source of funds for Lightning Network transactions. The discussion touches on the competitive landscape, comparing Wave Space to services like Relai, and highlighting its focus on enabling Bitcoin spending and future plans for Bitcoin-backed loans.
The podcast delves into the philosophical aspects of Bitcoin adoption, addressing the "never sell" ethos and the role of fiat currency in the Bitcoin ecosystem. Felix emphasizes Wave Space's goal of bridging the gap between traditional finance and Bitcoin, providing users with the tools they need to participate in both worlds. The conversation concludes with a discussion on the importance of self-custody, the potential impact of a European CBDC, and the need for innovation and collaboration within the Bitcoin community.
Time stamps:
Introduction and Sponsors - [00:00:50]
Wave Space Introduction - [00:01:42]
Lightning Network Integration - [00:03:25]
Regulatory Environment in Europe (MiCA) - [00:04:06]
MiCA and Lightning Network Accounting - [00:05:02]
Wave Space's Business Model - [00:09:50]
Wave Space vs. Relai and Other Exchanges - [00:11:07]
KYC Process on Wave Space - [00:14:34]
Bitcoin Economy and Debit Cards - [00:21:10]
SEPA Instant and CBDC - [00:26:46]
Room 77 and Bitcoin ATMs - [00:34:12]
Bitcoin and Politics - [00:35:58]
Wave Space's Business Model and "Never Sell" Bitcoin - [00:41:12]
Black Market vs. White Market - [00:50:01]
Discussion on Sponsors - [00:52:12]
Layer 2 Labs and Drivechains - [00:52:27]
ZK Rollups and Citrea - [00:54:47]
EUACC and European Startup Ecosystem - [01:05:35]
NoOne's and Peer-to-Peer Marketplace - [01:08:31]
Hodling and Self-Custody Consulting - [01:10:21]
Euro Stablecoins - [01:11:23]
Sideshift and Swapping - [01:14:23]
In-Game Economies and NFTs - [01:17:24]
Scams and Innovation in Crypto - [01:26:22]
Trading vs. Investing - [01:31:12]
Backup Plans if Bitcoin Fails - [01:32:18]
Bitcoin.com News - [01:33:47]
Conclusion and Contact Information - [01:35:12]

Apr 16, 2025 • 4h 9min
S16 E19: Daniel Krawisz on Bitcoin & Narcissism
In 2014, Daniel Krawisz was one of the most prolific Bitcoin writers: he published some excellent articles with the Nakamoto Institute, and most of them are still relevant. Today, he prefers BSV and believes that Craig Wright is Satoshi. What changed?
Time stamps:
Time stamps:
00:00:50 - Introducing Daniel Krawisz
00:02:40 - Bitcoin Takeover
00:05:30 - Scaling Bitcoin
00:09:30 - Soft Forks vs. Hard Forks
00:14:10 - Running a Bitcoin Node and Privacy
00:18:10 - Verifying Transactions
00:20:00 - Miner Centralization
00:24:40 - Bitcoin Core Ideology
00:29:00 - Fungibility
00:30:30 - Ross Ulbricht
00:38:55 - Bitcoin's Competitive Advantage
00:44:00 - Bitcoin and Legality
00:48:50 - Sound Money and Friendship
00:50:40 - Satoshi Nakamoto's Identity
00:57:20 - Craig Wright's Teachings
01:00:40 - Leaving the Nakamoto Institute
01:03:40 - Investors vs. Entrepreneurs
01:06:00 - The Nature of Bitcoin
01:12:15 - Bitcoin's Value
01:14:40 - Market Efficiency
01:16:20 - Bitcoin vs. Gold
01:21:15 - BSV Adoption
01:24:00 - BSV's Success Metrics
01:28:20 - Hash Rate and Miner Incentives
01:30:30 - Market Efficiency and Truth
01:33:55 - BSV's Future
01:37:00 - BSV vs. BCH
01:40:10 - Mempool
01:42:40 - BSV Mining and Jurisdictions
01:46:45 - BSV vs. CBDC
01:52:35 - Privacy and Mixing in BSV
02:00:03 - Security and Probabilistic Thinking
02:01:21 - Capitalism, Monopoly, and BSV
02:05:01 - Central Bank Digital Currencies (CBDCs) and BSV
02:07:28 - BSV's Role and Traceability
02:08:14 - Traceable vs. Non-Traceable Money
02:08:54 - Anarcho-Capitalism and Private Services
02:15:07 - Cypherpunk Literature and Privacy vs. Compliance
02:18:12 - Anonymity, Privacy, and Traceability in BSV
02:24:49 - Layer 2 Solutions and Scalability
02:32:35 - Narcissism
02:42:46 - Narcissism and Financial Scammers
02:48:14 - Avoiding Cults and Narcissistic Relationships
02:52:23 - Benefiting from Narcissistic Relationships
02:53:13 - Narcissists in Bitcoin/Crypto
02:54:37 - Relationship with Nakamoto Institute
03:00:14 - Appreciation and Book Recommendations
03:00:48 - Hayao Miyazaki and Narcissism
03:04:40 - Current Reading List
03:39:20 - Stance on 2017 Block Size Wars
03:40:45 - Book Project Idea
03:47:04 - Plato, Socrates, and Propaganda
03:53:07 - Diogenes and Libertarianism
03:55:15 - Final Book Recommendations
04:00:01 - Narcissism and Self-Awareness
04:00:40 - Denouncement of Litecoin, Dogecoin, and Ethereum
04:01:17 - Competition Between Monies
04:02:55 - Changes in the Bitcoin Space
04:04:40 - New Altcoins and Tokens
04:04:54 - Bitcoin Year One Manga
04:05:29 - Podcast Invitation and Appreciation
04:09:08 - Sponsors

Apr 14, 2025 • 3h 41min
S16 E18: Rockstar Dev & Max Hillebrand on Privacy
Privacy has had a couple of rough years: companies & protocols shut down, developers got arrested, governments issued new regulations... regardless, Rockstar Dev & Max Hillebrand join the show to discuss privacy & open source tools for sovereignty.

Apr 11, 2025 • 7h 24min
S16 E17: Ben Arc on LNBits v1 & The State of Lightning Network
Ben Arc is the creator of LNBits: a modular Lightning network wallet which, after 5 years of development, has just launched version 1. To celebrate this remarkable milestone, ”the CEO of Nostr” joins the show to talk about everything interesting in Bitcoin.
Time stamps:
00:00:53 - Introducing Ben Arc
00:01:08 - Ben Arc and LNBits V1
00:02:23 - LNBits beta version and V1 release
00:02:36 - Amir Taaki's Post-Syria Experience
00:03:08 - Rojava and Anarcho-Syndicalism
00:04:08 - LNBits development timeline
00:05:16 - Early stages of LNBits and Lightning
00:05:33 - Disillusionment in Bitcoin Space
00:07:20 - Stepan Snigirev and Specter DIY
00:08:11 - Modularity and extensions in LNBits
00:08:38 - Nostr and Bitcoin's Future
00:09:04 - Bear Market and Bitcoin's Value
00:10:00 - LNBits API and extensions
00:11:10 - LNBits as a sandbox for innovation
00:11:24 - Trump, Memecoins, and Market Downturn
00:12:31 - LNBits V1 new features and improvements
00:13:18 - Desired Bitcoin Adoption
00:14:12 - Dogecoin and Market Desensitization
00:15:09 - Bitcoin's Correlation with Stocks
00:16:26 - Bitcoin's Utility and Bear Market
00:17:41 - LNBits Investment and Thunderfunder
00:19:12 - Bear Market Camaraderie and Future
00:20:29 - Bitcoin's Humble Beginnings
00:22:20 - Dan Kaminsky and Len Sassaman
00:23:38 - LNBits security and real-world testing
00:23:51 - Satoshi's Anonymity Strategy
00:25:35 - John Nash and Satoshi Candidates
00:28:00 - Building extensions and ease of use
00:29:32 - Nick Szabo's Coding Abilities
00:30:34 - 600 Billion Meme Origin
00:34:34 - Hardware Wallets from AliExpress
00:39:09 - State of Lightning and future outlook
00:39:33 - Ledger Leaks and Supply Chain Attacks
00:41:42 - Trezor Security and Multisig
00:44:35 - Fiatjaf and Nostr
00:46:46 - Liquid Network Utility
00:51:51 - Nostr and IoT applications
00:52:48 - Lightning Network and Cross-Chain Swaps
00:55:48 - Bitcoin as digital gold and speculation
00:57:05 - Blockstream, Sidechains, and Federations
00:58:22 - Ideal money and Bitcoin's role
01:00:03 - Luke Dash Jr and Bitcoin Knots
01:00:47 - Layer 2s
01:03:15 - ZK-rollups
01:07:40 - Competition and collaboration in Bitcoin
01:07:58 - SegWit2x and BIP Bureaucracy
01:10:57 - Ecash and Cashu's development
01:11:11 - OpenTimestamps and Simple Proof
01:16:13 - Future Bullish Narratives for Bitcoin
01:17:29 - Improving Lightning Network design
01:22:43 - LNBits journey and future vision
01:25:08 - Businesses giving up on Lightning
01:30:01 - Node solutions and Raspberry Pi
01:34:54 - Zapstream and value-for-value content
01:37:05 - LNBits in five years
01:42:17 - Getting started with LNBits V1
01:46:33 - LNBits shop and hardware projects
02:00:00 - Nostr signing device
02:02:03 - Public key cryptography's importance
02:03:40 - Supporting LNBits and Nostr
02:05:05 - Nostr identity provider services
02:08:53 - Nostr's independence from blockchains
02:11:53 - Melvin Carvalho and Bitcoin community
02:14:02 - Nostr's Bitcoin echo chamber
02:17:03 - Nostr client discussion
02:18:26 - Elon Musk and politics
02:21:33 - Anarchism and private capital
02:30:31 - Roger Ver and taxation
02:37:05 - Bitcoin block size debate
02:41:13 - Bitcoin as medium of exchange
02:54:30 - Turkish Lira and the blind drummer
02:57:03 - Lightning Network's early days
03:05:05 - Strike and other Lightning companies
03:12:23 - Digicash and online payments
03:13:47 - Online identity and privacy
03:18:34 - Coinjoining and fungibility
03:22:13 - Privacy coins and Zcash
03:29:12 - Nostr, disinformation, and Phil Zimmerman
03:44:04 - Nostr growth and adoption
03:47:22 - Nostr applications and user growth
04:00:41 - Nostr Identity Purchases
04:05:27 - Private Key Backup Methods
04:06:41 - Nostr Development and Features
04:09:13 - Mallorca Blockchain Days
04:10:02 - Early Bitcoin Development
04:11:54 - Bitcoin & Nostr Adoption in Japan
04:15:28 - Nostr Conference Experiences
04:16:08 - Upcoming Conference Attendance
04:18:44 - Paralelni Polis Closure
04:20:25 - Room 77 Closure
04:21:14 - Early Bitcoin Wallets
04:24:20 - Early Bitcoin Figures
04:26:03 - Nokia N900 & LG Prada
04:28:36 - Ethereum and LocalBitcoins Origins
04:29:05 - Decline of Bitcoin Meetups
04:30:41 - Michael Saylor's Hope.com
04:38:05 - Saifedean plagiarized Dominic Frisby
04:41:14 - Saylor's Economic Views
04:45:35 - Consumerism and Planned Obsolescence
04:51:36 - Global Power Shifts and China
04:57:11 - European Union CBDC
05:03:04 - Cypherpunk Dream and Cryptography
05:06:03 - Politicians Using AI
05:15:24 - Bitcoin's Future and Replacements
05:20:44 - Bitcoin and Altcoin Development
05:24:41 - Lightning Network Importance
05:28:03 - Quantum Computing and Hard Forks
05:34:46 - Bitcoin in Suriname
05:42:09 - Secret Word

Apr 7, 2025 • 1h 19min
S16 E16: Andreas Brekken on SideShift & Bitcoin Moderation
Andreas Brekken is best known for creating SideShift.ai and acting as the CEO of Shitcoin.com. In this episode, he talks about his views on Bitcoin development, the emergence of DeFi, and the reasons why he considers cryptocurrencies superior to fiat.
Time stamps:
Introducing Andreas Brekken (00:00:51)
The Sam Bankman-Fried Interview on Shitcoin.com (00:01:50)
Clustering Analysis and Customer Funds (00:02:44)
Bybit's Technical Issues (00:05:18)
Historical Context of Exchanges (00:09:26)
Shapeshift's KYC Moment (00:11:13)
Why Aren’t Zcash and Monero on SideShift? (00:14:59)
Bitcoin Cash Hard Forks (00:20:45)
Lightning Network Integration (00:22:23)
Vulnerabilities in the Lightning Protocol (00:26:17)
Critique of Lightning Network's Design (00:28:29)
Submarine Swaps (00:29:28)
LNBits v1 Launch (00:29:44)
Lightning Wallets (00:30:19)
LNBits is like Start9? (00:30:40)
Andreas Brekken’s Lightning Network Experience (00:31:15)
Even Martti Malmi Is Using Wallet of Satoshi (00:31:37)
Zcash Protocol (00:32:11)
Bitcoin Variants on SideShift (00:32:26)
Decentralized Finance (DeFi) on Ethereum (00:34:00)
Citrea Project (00:35:26)
Multisig Solutions (00:36:30)
Automation in Bitcoin (00:41:18)
Political Dynamics in Bitcoin Development (00:47:15)
News Coverage on Bitcoin.com (00:51:27)
Bitcoin Volatility and Performance Against Stonks (00:53:14)
Peter Schiff Appreciation Era (00:55:42)
Peter Schiff’s Debates with Erik Voorhees (00:56:23)
Bitcoin's Growing Influence (00:58:15)
Future of Bitcoin (00:59:15)
Layer Two Labs and Drive Chains (01:00:34)
Innovation in Bitcoin (01:02:05)
Convenience of Layer Two Solutions (01:02:51)
Decred Discussion (01:09:53)
Favorite Shitcoins (01:11:49)
Subscribe to the shitcoin.com Newsletter? (01:16:31)

Mar 25, 2025 • 1h 57min
S16 E15: Marko Tarman on NiceHash & Proof of Work Mining
Marko Tarman has been mining Bitcoin since 2012 – and today, he works as Lead Mining Manager at NiceHash. In this episode, we talk about the current trends in Proof of Work mining and the commodification of hash rate.

Mar 24, 2025 • 1h 29min
S16 E14: Adam Krellenstein on Counterparty & Bitcoin Tokens
Adam Krellenstein is one of the co-founders of Counterparty and the current maintainer of the protocol. In this episode, he talks about his plan to improve Bitcoin native tokens and why you should consider giving XCP a chance.
Time stamps:
Introducing Adam Krellenstein (00:00:50)
Counterparty’s Unique Features (00:01:30)
Historical Significance of Counterparty (00:02:09)
Comparison with Mastercoin/Omni (00:03:19)
The Birth of Bitcoin Maximalism (00:04:48)
Vitalik’s Influence and Ethereum (00:08:43)
Pushback from Bitcoin Core Developers (00:09:16)
Concerns about Data Storage on Bitcoin (00:10:36)
Counterparty Software and Decentralization (00:12:51)
Art and NFTs in Counterparty (00:14:51)
Airdrop Announcement (00:14:24)
Off-Chain Data Storage Challenges (00:16:00)
Counterparty’s Original Vision (00:18:19)
The Popularity of Digital Art (00:18:51)
The Role of Digitally Native Assets (00:19:32)
Article about Counterparty on Bitcoin Takeover Website (00:21:08)
The Role of Bitcoin in Counterparty (00:22:30)
Decentralization of Counterparty Launch (00:23:12)
XCP Token Creation and Burning Mechanism (00:24:27)
Value Creation vs. Destruction (00:26:00)
Onboarding Users with Dispensers (00:29:41)
Counterparty’s Development History (00:31:01)
Challenges in Running Counterparty Nodes (00:35:30)
Counterparty 2.0 and Ledger Fork? (00:39:17)
Community Dynamics and Development (00:41:00)
Future of Smart Contracts on Counterparty (00:42:58)
Counterparty Ecosystem Health (00:43:46)
Atomic Swaps Feature (00:44:18)
Layer Two Proposals (00:45:18)
Comparison with Ordinals & BRC20 (00:47:44)
Counterparty’s Functional Advantages (00:48:30)
Sponsors (00:49:29)
Expectations at Launch (00:52:31)
Future of Counterparty (00:53:39)
Cultural Shifts in Bitcoin (00:55:23)
Collaboration with Ordinals (00:58:54)
Differences Between Runes and Counterparty (01:00:09)
Encoding Data in Bitcoin Transactions (01:01:07)
Future Improvements for Counterparty (01:03:11)
Community Dynamics (01:03:58)
Counterparty Wallet Development (01:05:36)
Bitcoin Head Cards (01:07:04)
Community Engagement and Nostalgia (01:08:29)
Bitcoin’s Security Budget (01:09:21)
Transaction Fees and Counterparty (01:10:33)
Recommended Counterparty Wallets (01:11:30)
Data Storage on Bitcoin (01:12:32)
Ecosystem and Community Reception (01:15:08)
Pepe Cash and Market Trends (01:16:45)
Current Developments in Counterparty (01:18:10)
Counterparty Roadmap (01:21:14)
Use Cases of Counterparty (01:23:35)
Stablecoin Possibilities (01:24:30)
Can Bitcoin Privacy Kill Counterparty? (01:25:38)
Counterparty’s Resilience (01:26:26)
Discussion on Counterparty’s Usage (01:26:46)
Closing Remarks and Where to Follow Adam Krellenstein (01:27:02)
Counterparty Communication Channels (01:27:18)
Airdrop Announcement (01:27:46)
Shoutout to Chris Derose (01:28:25)

Mar 20, 2025 • 2h 35min
S16 E13: Corbin Fraser on Bitcoin.com & BTC vs BCH
Corbin Fraser is the new CEO of Bitcoin.com. In this episode, he talks about the Scaling Wars, his perspective as a BCH advocate, and the lessons the market taught him over the years. Also, he explains why the news section of Bitcoin.com improved.
Introducing Corbin Fraser (00:00:50)
Bitcoin.com’s Evolution (00:01:52)
Support for Multiple Cryptocurrencies (00:03:05)
Challenges of Tribalism in Crypto (00:06:51)
Origins of Bitcoin Cash (00:09:07)
The Scaling Wars (00:12:14)
Misconceptions About BCH Leadership (00:15:23)
The Meme Warfare (00:18:31)
Promoting Token Swaps (00:20:09)
Bitcoin.com News and Geopolitics (00:21:16)
Respect for Peter Schiff (00:22:01)
Occupy Wall Street Insights (00:22:12)
Bitcoin Cash vs Bitcoin Debate (00:24:25)
Vitalik's Perspective on Forks (00:25:04)
Nomenclature and Propaganda (00:26:17)
Cola Wars Analogy (00:28:31)
Future of Bitcoin Block Size (00:29:56)
Lightning Network Adoption Challenges (00:30:04)
Alternative Layer 2 Solutions (00:31:27)
Lightning Network's Technical Limits (00:32:33)
Bitcoin SV and Centralization Concerns (00:33:42)
Impact of Community Divisions (00:34:44)
Chaos of Forks in 2017 (00:36:58)
Bitcoin.com’s Business Approach (00:40:04)
Lightning Network Whitepaper Block Size (00:41:06)
Discussion on AI and Block Size (00:42:39)
Satoshi's Misjudgments (00:43:46)
Censorship and Community Chaos (00:45:34)
Personal Losses During the Block Size Wars (00:47:08)
Bitcoin Cash's Price Surge to $3000 (00:47:38)
Miner Hesitation (00:48:30)
Current Features of BCH (00:51:55)
Emergence of Cash Tokens & Failure of SLP (00:56:02)
Building on UTXO (01:00:18)
Ethereum's Rise Post-Scaling Wars (01:02:10)
SushiSwap & DeFi Summer (01:03:53)
Vampire Liquidity Attack (01:05:08)
Speculation Around Chef Nomi (01:06:27)
Development of Aave & Compound (01:07:30)
Community Dynamics in BCH (01:08:32)
Debate on Development Tax (01:09:43)
Amaury Sechet's Influence and Community Split (01:10:14)
Forking and Community Fragmentation (01:12:12)
Transition to Ethereum and DeFi (01:14:39)
The Role of Multi-Chain Strategies (01:19:12)
Privacy and Zano (01:20:41)
Operational Security and Privacy in Crypto (01:23:09)
Government Regulation and Crypto Development (01:24:31)
Zano’s Hybrid PoW/PoS Consensus (01:25:56)
Fact-Checking from Bitcoin Cash Podcast (01:27:13)
Bitcoin Cash Upgrade Schedule (01:28:14)
Twitter Spaces Collaboration (01:28:47)
Privacy Solutions in BCH (01:29:29)
Mike Hearn's Prediction on Forks (01:30:05)
Misleading Media Influence (01:30:57)
Dollar Cost Averaging Strategy (01:31:50)
Self-Custody Solutions (01:32:02)
Ownership of Bitcoin.com (01:33:54)
Roger Ver's Contributions (01:34:22)
Support for Roger Ver (01:36:25)
Government's Stance on Crypto (01:38:47)
Reading Roger's Defense (01:39:59)
Misinterpretations of Roger's Position (01:41:08)
Evolution of Roger Ver's Views (01:42:31)
Market Humbling Experiences (01:42:54)
Elon Musk's Influence (01:43:37)
Current Crypto Market Sentiment (01:45:01)
Celebrity Influence on Crypto (01:46:05)
Kanye West's Coin Speculation (01:47:01)
Kanye's Meme Coin Ventures (01:48:05)
The Decline of Meme Coin Interest (01:49:16)
Overvaluation in Crypto Projects (01:50:50)
Block Size Wars Reflection (01:51:48)
State Actors and Bitcoin's Challenges (01:52:51)
Blockstream's Business Struggles (01:54:41)
Developer Commitment and Innovation (01:56:34)
Stablecoins vs. Bitcoin Adoption (02:00:05)
Future of Stablecoins and CBDCs (02:01:33)
Block Size Debate and Social Consensus (02:04:08)
George Hotz's Perspective on Innovation (02:06:48)
Ethereum's Rapid Development (02:09:07)
Ethereum's Challenges (02:11:29)
Bitcoin's Cautious Approach (02:12:05)
Testing Protocols (02:13:15)
User Education on Risks (02:15:35)
Brock Pierce's Influence (02:16:21)
Community Engagement (02:18:17)
Listing Criteria for New Coin on Bitcoin dot com Wallet (02:20:34)
Integration of Privacy Coins (02:22:58)
Zano's Potential (02:24:01)
User Confusion with Bitcoin Domains (02:28:21)
BSV Integration Decision (02:30:36)
Balanced News Coverage (02:32:04)
Introduction to New Developments (02:33:07)
Embracing a Broader Crypto Perspective (02:34:05)
Closing Remarks (02:34:46)
Final Thoughts and Future Plans (02:35:03)

Mar 12, 2025 • 1h 5min
S16 E12: Martti Malmi on Bitcoin in 2009 & Satoshi Nakamoto
Martti Malmi, aka Sirius, was Satoshi Nakamoto's closest collaborator between 2009 and 2010. In this episode, he reminisces about the early days of Bitcoin, but also describes his recent adventures with Nostr & the Lightning Network.
Time stamps:
Introducing Martti (00:00:48)
Martti's Work on Nostr (00:02:03)
Nostr's Origins and Purpose (00:03:31)
Self-Custodial Nature of Nostr (00:04:13)
Early Bitcoin Perceptions (00:05:25)
Understanding Bitcoin's Value (00:07:21)
How Martti Malmi Discovered Bitcoin (00:08:21)
Contributions to Bitcoin (00:09:41)
Development of Bitcoin Exchange (00:12:53)
Pioneering Real Estate Transactions (00:14:45)
Reflections on Selling Bitcoin (00:15:27)
Celebrating Pizza Day (00:16:18)
Market Demand for Bitcoin (00:17:14)
Regrets About Bitcoin Spending (00:17:27)
Privacy in Bitcoin (00:20:23)
Lightning Network Integration (00:22:47)
Concerns About Censorship (00:23:41)
The Evolution of the Lightning Network (00:24:42)
Challenges with Lightning Nodes (00:25:04)
The Reliability of Payment Solutions (00:26:11)
Early Bitcoin Purchases (00:27:22)
Preferred Methods for Holding Bitcoin (00:28:16)
Mt. Gox Lessons (00:28:41)
Creditor Experiences with Mt. Gox (00:29:17)
Future Value of Bitcoin (00:29:56)
Technological Changes in Bitcoin (00:30:20)
Concerns Over CBDCs (00:31:16)
Project Hamilton CBDC and Bitcoin Technology (00:32:31)
Tether's Role in the Financial System (00:33:01)
Community Trust in Financial Systems (00:34:41)
Concerns About Centralization (00:37:28)
Sidechains and Their Implications (00:37:46)
The Role of Law Enforcement (00:39:22)
Historical Contributions to Bitcoin (00:42:03)
Satoshi's Identity Speculation (00:43:02)
Early Bitcoin Community Engagement (00:45:22)
Transition from Developer to Observer (00:46:21)
Ownership of Bitcoin.org Domain (00:47:31)
Domain Names and Value (00:47:56)
Namecoin and Early Altcoins (00:48:29)
Web of Trust in Naming (00:49:05)
Self-Custody Solutions (00:49:36)
Rise of Hardware Wallets (00:51:03)
Mining Pools and Centralization Risks (00:52:18)
Gamers and Bitcoin Mining (00:52:57)
Libertarianism and Bitcoin Miners (00:53:49)
Cultural Perspectives on Welfare States (00:54:31)
Corruption in Scandinavian Countries (00:56:15)
Libertarian Media in Finland (00:57:04)
The Pirate Party and Bitcoin (00:57:21)
Optimism about Bitcoin's Future (00:58:21)
Potential Changes to Bitcoin (00:59:26)
Nostalgia for Early Bitcoin Days (01:01:13)
Bridging Nostr and Bitcointalk (01:01:40)
Emails with Satoshi Nakamoto (01:02:54)
Keeping Up with Marty's Work (01:04:24)
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