
Bitcoin Takeover Podcast S16 E64: Alex Chepurnoy on Ergo & Bitcoin Smart Contracts
Dec 23, 2025
03:21:19
Alex Chepurnoy is a cryptographer & researcher who famously wrote a Bitcoin client in Haskell in only 3600 lines of code. He is currently working on Ergo, a proof of work blockchain which improves upon Bitcoin's design in order to achieve smart contracts and DeFi. How does it work? Let's find out!
Time stamps:
00:01:11 Introducing Alex Chepurnoy
00:01:51 Alex’s Bitcoin Discovery & Early Development
00:02:37 Namecoin, SmartContract.com, and Cardano Involvement
00:05:15 Satoshi Theories & Code Analysis
00:07:00 Rewriting Bitcoin & Distributed Systems Perspective
00:08:39 Consensus Protocols & Altcoin Proliferation
00:10:20 Bitcoin’s Early Appeal & Peer-to-Peer Motivation
00:14:08 Bitcoin’s Revolutionary Monetary Model
00:15:45 Staying in Crypto: Problems to Solve
00:17:19 Bitcoin as Digital Gold & Smart Contracts
00:21:29 Ethereum vs. Bitcoin: Contractual Capabilities
00:23:02 Ergo’s Approach: Contracts & Protocol Upgrades
00:26:56 Namecoin’s History & Technical Innovations
00:31:10 Merged Mining & Sidechain Politics
00:34:35 Early Bitcoin Contributions & BTC Scala Client
00:38:49 Conference Presentations & ZeroJoin
00:41:49 Demurrage, Storage Rent, and Bitcoin Upgrades
00:45:01 NFTs, Inscriptions, and Bitcoin Community Divisions
00:50:10 Hard Forks, Immutability, and Ethereum Classic
00:55:17 Markets, Transaction Fees, and Bitcoin’s Security Budget
00:57:59 Lightning Network Limitations & Off-Chain Cash
01:01:58 Challenging Bitcoin’s Scaling & Off-Chain Solutions
01:06:38 Ergo’s Protocol Design & Civil War Lessons
01:08:25 Ergo’s Innovations for Bitcoin
01:15:38 Quantum Resistance & Hard Fork Challenges
01:19:51 Consensus Cleanup & Upgrade Difficulties
01:23:10 Community Proposals & Development Gridlock
01:25:07 Alex’s Tech Stack & Personal Devices
01:31:07 Satoshi’s Identity & Coding Style
01:38:34 NXT, Bitcoin 2.0, and Ethereum’s Success
01:45:35 Proof of Work vs. Proof of Stake
01:50:44 Philosophy of Proof of Work & Fair Distribution
01:53:09 VCs, Token Dumps, and Proof of Work Revival
01:54:16 Proof of Stake Attacks & Network Resilience
01:59:20 Ergo’s Network Parameters & Smart Contracts
02:21:17 Privacy Features: Mixers & Stealth Addresses
02:28:40 Monetary Policy, Emission, and Pre-mine
02:34:09 Monero vs. Zcash: Community & Funding
02:48:03 Bridging Blockchains & Rosen Bridge
02:51:04 Peer-to-Peer Finance & Smart Contract Design
02:53:57 Future Vision: Interconnected PoW Blockchains
02:56:41 Double Merged Mining Sidechains
03:17:45 Community Resources & Getting Involved
03:20:11 Conclusion & Final Thoughts
