The Orbit Marketing Podcast

In this episode, we sit down with Adam Nathan, founder and CEO of Almanac, to talk about his ambitions to reshape the future of remote work. Drawing from insights gained from over 5,000 interviews with experts at companies like Apple, Stripe, and Netflix, Adam has pioneered the Modern Work Method. This method seeks to redefine how we work on the internet, advocating for structured, asynchronous, and transparent collaboration. In the conversation, we discuss:* Why the future of work needs a new philosophy rather than another tool 🤔* The challenge of building in the Productivity Sector 🏗️* The similarities between Agile and The Modern Work Method 🔄* The business value of design and beauty in product development 🎨* How Almanac leverages AI for Knowledge Management and Collaboration 🤖* Adam’s personal fascination with the Aviation Industry ✈️Check out Almanac:→ Website: almanac.io→ LinkedIn: linkedin.com/company/almanacdocs → Twitter: twitter.com/AlmanacDocsConnect with Adam:→ LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/adampnathan→ Twitter: twitter.com/adampnathan This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit louisshulman.substack.com This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit orbitmarketing.substack.com

Arthur Petropoulos spent nearly a decade on Wall Street, with involvement in investment banking, private equity, and serving as the head of corporate development, strategy, and M&A for a diversified B2B services company.Now, Arthur provides M&A, Business Exit, and Capital Advisory Services for Middle Market companies (up to $10 million in EBITDA) through his firm, Hill View Partners.This conversation covers the role of obsession in business, how to prepare your operations for a successful exit, why so many people want to be investment bankers, the durability of cashflow in the world of AI and consolidation, the role outside capital can play in accelerating growth, the value of building goodwill, and much more.Check out Hill View Partners:→ Website: hillviewps.com → LinkedIn: linkedin.com/company/hillviewpartnersConnect with Arthur:→ LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/arthur-petropoulos→ YouTube: youtube.com/@HillViewPartners Follow The Show on Social Media:→ Twitter: https://twitter.com/LouisKyleShow → Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/louiskyleshow/ → LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/65567567/ Connect with Louis and Kyle:→ Read Louis' Newsletter: https://louisshulman.substack.com/ → Louis' Twitter: https://twitter.com/LouisShulman → Kyle’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/_kylebishop → Louis LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louisshulman/ → Kyle’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kyle-bishop-7b790050/ This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit louisshulman.substack.com This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit orbitmarketing.substack.com

Nick Huber is a self storage operator with 1.9 million square feet and 50 employees. He also sold a service company for 7 figures and sends a weekly email to 200K+ people. His 300,000+ follower twitter account, @SweatyStartup, has become extremely popular with business owners.This conversation discusses small businesses versus real estate, tips for hiring remote talent, advice for scaling a service business, Nick's opinions on the value of a college education, Nick's best practices for effective personal branding and social media growth, the importance of improving your decision making skills and much much more!Chapters:00:00:00 - Scaling Businesses through Distribution00:04:05 - Building Trust and Value with Personal Branding00:08:05 - The Power of Putting Your Name and Reputation Behind Your Business00:12:06 - Advice on First Real Estate Deals00:16:04 - Transitioning to Delegating Decisions and Chasing Talent00:19:57 - Taking Incrementally Uncomfortable Steps in Business00:23:51 - The staying power of well-operated businesses00:27:45 - The Importance of Decision Making in College00:31:55 - Making Decisions and Investing in the FANG Industry00:35:59 - The Importance of Slowing Down in Decision Making00:40:03 - Investing without Sufficient Cash00:43:55 - The Value of Different Types of FollowersCheck out Nick’s Businesses:→ Business Brokerage - nickhuber.com→ Personal Brand - sweatystartup.com→ Self Storage - boltstorage.com→ Bold SEO - boldseo.com→ Insurance - titanrisk.com→ Recruiting - recruitjet.com→ Landing Page / Web Development - webrun.com→ Overseas Staffing - supportshepherd.com→ Debt and Equity - bluekeycapital.com→ Tax Credit - taxcredithunter.com→ Cost Segregation - recostseg.com→ Performance Marketing - adrhino.com→ Pest control - spidexx.com→ Nick's Book - antientrepreneur.comNick's Free Resources:→ 200+ business ideas: sweatystartup.ck.page→ Self Storage breakdown: sweatystartup.ck.page This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit louisshulman.substack.com This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit orbitmarketing.substack.com

Matthew Jaeh co-founded ProctorU, an EdTech company that grew to over $1 Billion. Now, Matt is the Managing Director of Techstars in Birmingham, Alabama. In addition, Matt is an avid triathlete and musician. This conversation covers lessons from building ProctorU, the Alabama startup ecosystem, the power of short form video, Matt's favorite restaurants, the power of music, and much more. Chapters:00:00:00 - The Connection Between Music and Focus00:04:21 - Prioritizing Health and Business00:09:19 - The Birth of Proctor U00:13:53 - Scaling a Company: From 10 Institutions to Nationwide00:18:46 - The Importance of Quality Assurance and Training00:23:03 - The Importance of Taking Care of Your Team00:27:38 - The Importance of Giving Back in the Entrepreneurial Community00:32:44 - Different ways to think about entrepreneurship00:37:31 - The Importance of Corporate Sponsorship and Accelerators in Birmingham's Ecosystem00:42:27 - Finding Joy in Birmingham00:47:07 - The Power of Short Form Video and Analytics00:51:48 - Leveraging Sponsor Content on Instagram and TikTok00:56:20 - Offering a Second Opinion Connect with Matthew:→ Website: mattjaeh.com→ LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/matthewjaeh→ Twitter: twitter.com/jaehdawg→ Instagram: instagram.com/jaehdawg→ TikTok: tiktok.com/@realmattjaeh→ Youtube:   / @mattjaeh  → Facebook: facebook.com/matthew.jaeh Check out ProctorU:→ Website: proctoru.com→ LinkedIn: linkedin.com/company/proctoru Resources Mentioned in The Episode:→ Techstars: linkedin.com/company/techstars→ Simon Sinek: simonsinek.com→ Geek Squad: linkedin.com/company/geek-squad→ Jarrod Morgan: linkedin.com/in/jarrodmorgan→ Jim Collins: jimcollins.com→ Alabama Launchpad: alabamalaunchpad.com→ Chris Heivly (Episode):   • Chris Heivly: Build The Fort - Foster...  → Prosper: prosperbham.com→ Endeavor: endeavorbirmingham.org→ Bronze Valley: bronzevalley.com→ Fleetio: fleetio.com→ Frank Stitt: twitter.com/frankstitt→ Chris Hastings: instagram.com/chrishastings00 Restaurants Mentioned in The Episode:→ CAFÉ DUPONT: cafedupont.net→ Helen: helenbham.com→ Gianmarco’s: gianmarcosbhm.com→ Amore: letsamore.com→ Perry’s Steak House: perryssteakhouse.com/famousporkchop→ Automatic Seafood: automaticseafood.com→ Good People Brewing: goodpeoplebrewing.com→ Brock’s Gap: brocksgapbrewing.com Help The Louis and Kyle Show:→ If you enjoyed this episode, please share it with a friend or leave a review!→ Leave a review: Podcast Review→ Drop us an email: LouisandKyleShow@gmail.com→ Subscribe on YouTube: YouTube Channel Follow The Show on Social Media:→ Twitter: twitter.com/LouisKyleShow→ Instagram: instagram.com/louiskyleshow→ LinkedIn: linkedin.com/company/65567567 Connect with Louis and Kyle:→ Read Louis' Newsletter: Louis's Substack→ Louis' Twitter: twitter.com/LouisShulman→ Kyle’s Twitter: twitter.com/_kylebishop→ Louis LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/louisshulman→ Kyle’s LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/kyle-bishop-7b790050 This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit louisshulman.substack.com This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit orbitmarketing.substack.com

Gray MacKenzie is the Co-Founder of ZenPilot, a training and consulting business that leads digital agencies through project management implementation using ClickUp. Altogether, ZenPilot has helped over 2,700 agencies improve their operations. Previously, Gray founded GuavaBox, a marketing agency for B2B SaaS. This conversation covers how to avoid chaotic agency operations, best practices for project management, how to design effective systems in your business, how to create a "spin-off" business from your by-products, building an agency operator scorecard, Gray's entrepreneurial backstory, using AI to grow your business, alternatives to college, and much more.  Check out ZenPilot:→ Website: zenpilot.com→ Twitter: twitter.com/zenpilothq→ LinkedIn: linkedin.com/company/zenpilot Connect with Gray:→ LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/graymackenzie→ Twitter: twitter.com/sgraymackenzie Resources Mentioned in The Episode:→ Agency Journey Podcast (Apple): podcasts.apple.com/za/podcast/agency-journey/id974213636→ Agency Journey Podcast (Spotify): open.spotify.com/show/4C7UEVPMZZlPzbMlIwmiaA→ Twitter: twitter.com/agencyjourney→ ZenPilot Website: zenpilot.com Help The Louis and Kyle Show:→ If you enjoyed this episode, please share it with a friend or leave a review!→ Leave a review: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/1504333834→ Drop us an email: LouisandKyleShow@gmail.com→ Subscribe on YouTube: youtube.com/channel/UCb6qBiV1HAYcep87nKJmGhA Follow The Show on Social Media:→ Twitter: twitter.com/LouisKyleShow→ Instagram: instagram.com/louiskyleshow→ LinkedIn: linkedin.com/company/65567567 Connect with Louis and Kyle:→ Read Louis' Newsletter: louisshulman.substack.com→ Louis' Twitter: twitter.com/LouisShulman→ Kyle’s Twitter: twitter.com/_kylebishop→ Louis LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/louisshulman→ Kyle’s LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/kyle-bishop-7b790050 This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit louisshulman.substack.com This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit orbitmarketing.substack.com

Will Bryant is the Co-Founder and Head of Business Development at Quantalytix. Quantalytix is a fintech company created by bankers and for bankers with an emphasis on visualizing Loan Data.This conversation covers Quantalytix's origin story, how they find customers, how they validated their business model, how they determined their product roadmap, their company work culture, Will's journaling practice, the importance of gratitude, shifting into finance after a career in private equity, hybrid work, the Birmingham Startup Environment, and much more. Chapters:00:00:00 - How Quantalytix Started00:03:04 - Taking Steps after the Initial Meeting00:06:09 - The Startup Environment in Birmingham00:09:11 - The State of the Business: Scalable and Self-Service00:12:15 - Importance of Marketing and Branding00:15:30 - Gathering Data from the Market00:18:48 - Building with Early Customers00:21:44 - Hybrid Work Model and Daily Stand-ups00:24:44 - Finding a Career in Finance00:27:45 - Opportunities in Health and Wellness00:30:43 - Journaling Practice and the Current State of the Market00:33:50 - Adjusting Lifestyles and Resetting the Economy00:37:01 - Gratitude and Appreciation Check out Quantalytix→ Website: quantalytix.com Connect with Will:→ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/will-bryant-541202119/ Resources Mentioned in The Episode:→ Innovative Depo: innovationdepot.org→ Christopher Aliotta: linkedin.com/in/christopheraliotta→ Bloomberg Terminals: bloomberg.com/professional/solution/bloomberg-terminal→ Birmingham Business Journal: bizjournals.com/birmingham→ Alabama Power: alabamapower.com→ ChatGPT: openai.com/blog/chatgpt→ First Republic (Article): thestreet.com/banking/what-happened-to-first-republic-bank Help The Louis and Kyle Show:→ If you enjoyed this episode, please share it with a friend or leave a review!→ Leave a review: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/1504333834→ Drop us an email: LouisandKyleShow@gmail.com→ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCb6qBiV1HAYcep87nKJmGhA Follow The Show on Social Media:→ Twitter: https://twitter.com/LouisKyleShow→ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/louiskyleshow/→ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/65567567/ Connect with Louis and Kyle:→ Read Louis' Newsletter: https://louisshulman.substack.com/→ Louis' Twitter: https://twitter.com/LouisShulman→ Kyle’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/_kylebishop→ Louis LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louisshulman/→ Kyle’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kyle-bishop-7b790050/ This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit louisshulman.substack.com This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit orbitmarketing.substack.com

Elan Sherod Carr is an American attorney and politician who served as the Special Envoy for Monitoring and Combating anti-Semitism under President Donald Trump from 2019 to 2021. Before that appointment, Carr was a deputy district attorney in the Los Angeles County District Attorney's office. Additionally, Elan served as the international president of the Alpha Epsilon Pi fraternity (AEPi).This conversation covers organizing yourself for a herculean task, going on the offense against anti-Semitism, bringing holiness and spirituality to challenging places, the crisis of Jewish education, importance of public safety and education in America, building and organizing a team in diplomacy, the psychological significance of the Bible, the power of gratitude and not taking things for granted, and much more.  Connect with Elan Carr:→ Twitter: Elan Carr's Twitter: https://twitter.com/ElanSCarr→ LinkedIn: Elan Carr's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elan-carr-4b0a41205/ Resources Mentioned in the Episode:→ Jewish Literacy: Jewish Literacy: https://a.co/d/3IiXQEF→ Rebbe: The Life and Teachings of Menachem M. Schneerson, the Most Influential Rabbi in Modern History: Rebbe: https://a.co/d/2AyIMNf Help The Louis and Kyle Show:→ If you enjoyed this episode, please share it with a friend or leave a review!→ Leave a review: Leave a Review: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/1504333834→ Drop us an email: LouisandKyleShow@gmail.com→ Subscribe on YouTube: Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCb6qBiV1HAYcep87nKJmGhA Follow The Show on Social Media:→ Twitter: The Louis and Kyle Show on Twitter: https://twitter.com/LouisKyleShow→ Instagram: The Louis and Kyle Show on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/louiskyleshow/→ LinkedIn: The Louis and Kyle Show on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/65567567/ Connect with Louis and Kyle:→ Read Louis' Newsletter: Louis' Newsletter: https://louisshulman.substack.com/→ Louis' Twitter: Louis on Twitter: https://twitter.com/LouisShulman→ Kyle’s Twitter: Kyle on Twitter: https://twitter.com/_kylebishop→ Louis LinkedIn: Louis' LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louisshulman/→ Kyle’s LinkedIn: Kyle's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kyle-bishop-7b790050/ This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit louisshulman.substack.com This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit orbitmarketing.substack.com

Benjamin Redfield is the managing partner at bread, a product firm to help companies design and deploy software systems. Bread helps their clients take "ideas to market through strategy, brand, design, and engineering."Previously, Ben co-founded Density (Density.io) which was recently valued over $1B.This conversation covers why Ben left Density behind to create another agency, how he finds clients, running an agency like a venture studio, hobby electronics, the value of keeping your team small, tools for rapidly prototyping software, his favorite fiction books, and much more. Chapters:00:00:00 - The Business Model and Approach to Entrepreneurship00:05:09 - The Early Phases of Building a Company00:10:23 - Building the Pipeline and Leveraging Networks00:15:25 - The Benefits of Staying Small and Building a Company with Designers and Engineers00:20:43 - Shifting Identity and Maintaining Authenticity00:25:59 - The Importance of Being in the Same Room00:31:11 - The Benefits of a Retainer Model00:35:35 - Building Trust in a Company00:41:03 - Building a Door Counter and Prototype00:46:35 - The Rise of Digital Keys00:51:36 - Exploring the T3 stack and TRPC00:57:07 - Book Recommendations and Deep Dives01:02:05 - Spectrum Definitions and Good Outcomes  Check out Bread:→ Website: madebybread.com→ LinkedIn: linkedin.com/company/madebybread Connect with Ben:→ Website: benredfield.dev→ LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/benjamin-redfield Resources Mentioned in The Episode:→ Density: density.io→ The Founders: amazon.com/Founders-Paypal-Entrepreneurs-Shaped-Silicon→ Eric Jorgeson: ejorgenson.com/newsletter→ Jason Calacanis: twitter.com/jason→ Colemak: colemak.com→ Mini Katanas: minikatana.com→ Store Leads: storeleads.app→ Typescript: typescriptlang.org→ T3: create.t3.gg→ Tailwind: tailwindcss.com→ tRPC: trpc.io→ Kicad: kicad.org→ George Mack (Thread): twitter.com/george__mack/status→ Lonesome Dove: amazon.com/Lonesome-Dove-Novel-Larry-McMurtry→ Empire of the Summer Moon: amazon.com/Empire-Summer-Moon Help The Louis and Kyle Show:→ If you enjoyed this episode, please share it with a friend or leave a review!→ Leave a review: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/1504333834→ Drop us an email: LouisandKyleShow@gmail.com→ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCb6qBiV1HAYcep87nKJmGhA Follow The Show on Social Media:→ Twitter: https://twitter.com/LouisKyleShow→ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/louiskyleshow/→ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/65567567/ Connect with Louis and Kyle:→ Read Louis' Newsletter: https://louisshulman.substack.com/→ Louis' Twitter: https://twitter.com/LouisShulman→ Kyle’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/_kylebishop→ Louis LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louisshulman/→ Kyle’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kyle-bishop-7b790050/ This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit louisshulman.substack.com This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit orbitmarketing.substack.com

Tyson Smith is a 7-Figure Wholesaler & Coach based in Scottsdale, Arizona. This conversation covers Tyson's personal journey and path to happiness, success and fulfillment.We discuss sobriety, religion, stoicism, tradition, coaching, grit, silencing your inner critic, the role of accountability, managing overthinking, the value of long-form podcasts, tips for making it in sales, goal setting, the best books, mindset hacks, and much more.  Chapters:00:00:00 - Quitting Alcohol and Vaping00:04:51 - A Journey of Spiritual Awakening00:09:48 - Choosing Positivity00:14:26 - Being Grateful for the Opportunities00:18:33 - The Journey towards Self-Mastery00:23:24 - The Benefits of Hiring a Coach00:27:37 - The Power of Grit and Persistence00:32:14 - The Battle between the Badass and the Baby00:36:49 - Influencing Beliefs and Choosing Influencers00:41:33 - The Benefits and Drawbacks of Decisiveness00:46:22 - The Power of Creating Conducive Spaces for Growth and Multi-Family Housing00:51:08 - The Importance of Setting Goals00:55:55 - Follow Tyson on Instagram and YouTube Connect with Tyson Smith:→ Twitter: twitter.com/tysonsmithrei→ LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/tysonjsmith/→ YouTube: youtube.com/@tyson_smith→ Instagram: instagram.com/tyson_smith/ Resources Mentioned in the Episode:→ Meditations: amazon.com/Meditations-Marcus-Aurelius→ Art of Exceptional Living: amazon.com/Art-Exceptional-Living-Unstoppable-Nightingale→ Akira the Don (Episode): youtube.com/watch?v=sr9iXTnLdPY→ @akirathdon (IG Handle): instagram.com/akirathedon/→ Joe Rogan: youtube.com/@joerogan→ David Goggins: davidgoggins.com→ Andrew Tate: twitter.com/Cobratate→ Ryan Hall: instagram.com/ryanhall5050/→ Closers Olympics: closersolympics.com→ War Dogs: imdb.com/title/tt2005151/ Help The Louis and Kyle Show:→ If you enjoyed this episode, please share it with a friend or leave a review!→ Leave a review: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/1504333834→ Drop us an email: LouisandKyleShow@gmail.com→ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCb6qBiV1HAYcep87nKJmGhA Follow The Show on Social Media:→ Twitter: https://twitter.com/LouisKyleShow→ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/louiskyleshow/→ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/65567567/ Connect with Louis and Kyle:→ Read Louis' Newsletter: https://louisshulman.substack.com/→ Louis' Twitter: https://twitter.com/LouisShulman→ Kyle’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/_kylebishop→ Louis LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louisshulman/→ Kyle’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kyle-bishop-7b790050/ This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit louisshulman.substack.com This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit orbitmarketing.substack.com

Nicholas Verge (Nick Verge) is a highly sought after copywriter having written high performing sales pages and scripts for figures like Alex Jones and Jordan Belfort. His work has generated more than $30,000,000 for his clients.In this episode we discuss Nick's personal experiments with Islam, his stories acquiring famous copywriting clients, how to become a creative advisor, spending hundreds of thousands on coaching and training, dogmatism on the internet, the deeper meaning of achievement, his social media strategy, critical thinking, and much more. Check out the Creative Advisor:→ Website: course.creativeadvisor.ai/tca Connect with Nicholas:→ LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/nicholas-verge→ Twitter: twitter.com/NicholasVerge→ Instagram: instagram.com/nicholasverge→ Substack: substack.com/@nicholasverge Resources Mentioned in The Episode:→ Logan Fitz: twitter.com/LogFitz6→ Joe Dispenza: twitter.com/DrJoeDispenza→ John Romaniello: twitter.com/johnromaniello→ Alex Hormozi: twitter.com/AlexHormozi→ Shwab Economic Forum: weforum.org/about/klaus-schwab→ Alex Jones: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Jones Help The Louis and Kyle Show:→ If you enjoyed this episode, please share it with a friend or leave a review!→ Leave a review: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/1504333834→ Drop us an email: LouisandKyleShow@gmail.com→ Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCb6qBiV1HAYcep87nKJmGhA Follow The Show on Social Media:→ Twitter: https://twitter.com/LouisKyleShow→ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/louiskyleshow/→ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/65567567/ Connect with Louis and Kyle:→ Read Louis' Newsletter: https://louisshulman.substack.com/→ Louis' Twitter: https://twitter.com/LouisShulman→ Kyle’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/_kylebishop→ Louis LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louisshulman/→ Kyle’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kyle-bishop-7b790050/ This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit louisshulman.substack.com This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit orbitmarketing.substack.com