
Difference Talks
The LABOV Difference Talks podcast is all about differentiation and celebrating what makes brands unique. In each episode, we meet people who’ve dared to stand up and stand out, sometimes against great odds. We share the stories of how they have differentiated themselves, their enterprises, or their brands, and given meaning to those around them. This podcast is a journey into what it takes to win hearts, minds, and market share. In a world of copies, conformity, and commodities, uniqueness speaks volumes... Difference Talks.
Latest episodes

Feb 11, 2025 • 30min
Building 100+ Years of Customer Loyalty With Jonathan Randall
Send us a textJonathan Randall, President of Mack Trucks, discusses the importance of customer success and how Mack differentiates itself in the market. He also talks about a key moment in his career when he had to rally his team to believe in change and achieve success. Mack Trucks focused on creating a positive customer experience by involving all employees in the process and giving them the authority to make decisions. By enhancing the customer experience and working closely with their partners, they were able to increase their market share and become number one in the premium category.Takeaways:Mack Trucks has remained successful for over 100 years due to the loyalty of its customer base and its focus on customer success.The trucking industry is evolving, and Mack Trucks is investing in technology and solutions to meet customers’ changing needs.Giving employees the authority to make decisions enhances the customer experience.Working closely with partners can lead to growth and increased market share.About Jonathan Randall:Jonathan Randall was named president of Mack Trucks North America in 2022. He has over 25 years in the commercial vehicle industry, including working for 12 years at Daimler Trucks North America, where he was director of marketing at Freightliner Trucks and later director of sales and marketing at Freightliner Custom Chassis.Join the Conversation: We hope you enjoy this episode with Jonathan Randall. Be sure to listen, subscribe, and leave a review to let us know your thoughts!Where to find more: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathan-randall-9930452/

Jan 28, 2025 • 34min
Differentiation by Design with Derek Jenkins
Send us a textIn this conversation, Derek Jenkins, a renowned automotive designer and brand leader at Lucid Motors, shares his insights on car culture, the emotional connection to design, and the challenges of building a brand from scratch in the competitive electric vehicle market. He discusses the importance of storytelling in leadership, the influence of California on automotive design, and the future of electric vehicles. Jenkins emphasizes the need for emotional engagement in design and the significance of teamwork in overcoming challenges.TakeawaysCar culture is deeply rooted in lifestyle and geography.Design should evoke emotion and connect with consumers.Starting from scratch allows for creative freedom and innovation.California's culture significantly influences automotive design.Storytelling is essential for rallying a team and building a brand.Leadership involves connecting with people on an emotional level.Finding joy in small moments is vital for personal fulfillment.About Derek Jenkins: Derek Jenkins is the Senior Vice President of Design and Brand at Lucid. He oversees all design developments, including exterior and interior design, user experience, color and material, accessories, and the overall design strategy. Prior to Lucid, Derek created iconic automotive designs for Mazda, Volkswagen, and Audi. Join the Conversation: We hope you enjoy this episode with Derek Jenkins. Be sure to listen, subscribe, and leave a review to let us know your thoughts!Where to find more: https://lucidmotors.com/company/leadership/derek-jenkins

Jan 14, 2025 • 32min
Differentiating During Acquisitions with Ryan Rockafellow
Send us a textIn this engaging episode, Ryan Rockafellow, CEO of Engineered Transportation International, discusses the complexities of merging two rival brands in the transportation industry, focusing on the importance of maintaining brand identity and differentiation. Ryan shares his journey in the trucking sector, the challenges faced during the merger of Heil Trailer and Polar Tank Trailer, and the strategies employed to keep customer needs at the forefront. The discussion highlights the significance of teamwork and the human aspect of business in navigating change and fostering collaboration among previously competing entities. Takeaways· Merging rival brands requires careful consideration of brand identity and customer needs.· Maintaining product differentiation is crucial for customer satisfaction and brand loyalty.· The importance of listening to customers during product development and manufacturing processes.· Successful mergers focus on keeping the customer at the forefront of decision-making.· Celebrating product uniqueness fosters customer loyalty.About Ryan Rockafellow: Ryan was appointed CEO of Engineered Transportation International in 2021. He was previously with Engineered Transportation International from 2012 to 2020, holding various roles including President of Kalyn Siebert and VP Sales & Marketing for NA Tank Trailer Division. He was Vice President and General Manager of Capacity Trucks, a division of REV Group from 2020-2021. Ryan has over 18 years of sales, production, commercial, operations and leadership experience in manufacturing and industrial applications. Join the Conversation: We hope you enjoy this episode with Ryan Rockafellow. Be sure to listen, subscribe, and leave a review to let us know your thoughts!Where to find more: https://entransinternational.com/leadership/

Dec 17, 2024 • 31min
Standing Out in Hollywood with Matt Labov
Send us a textMatt Labov is an entertainment industry PR and marketing icon known for his work with celebrities like Steve Carell, Jack Black, and Jonah Hill. In this engaging episode of the Difference Talks Podcast, we dive into Matt’s talents at navigating the complex world of Hollywood and his experience dealing with challenging, high-stakes situations. He discusses the role differentiation plays in adapting to the ever-changing landscape of the entertainment industry. Key highlights from the conversation: Don't be afraid to fail; it's a necessary part of success. Rallying people together is crucial for achieving success in the entertainment industry, where differentiation is key. Being a personal publicist involves being a sociologist, psychologist, and therapist to clients. Success in the industry is a combination of luck, hard work, and the ability to adapt to changing circumstances. A great day on the job is when you can creatively impact a project and see your ideas come to life. About Matt Labov: Matt Labov is a publicist in the entertainment industry and president of Matt Labov Management & Public Relations. He has worked with some the industry’s leading actors and launched PR campaigns for hit movies, including “40 Year Old Virgin,” “Anchorman,” and “The Interview,” as well as TV series, including “Barry,” “Eastbound and Down,” and “The Daily Show with John Stewart.” Where to Find More: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt-labov-3929976b/ Join the Conversation: We hope you enjoy this episode with Matt Labov. Be sure to listen, subscribe, and leave a review to let us know your thoughts!

Dec 3, 2024 • 34min
Culture as a Competitive Advantage with Jason Lippert
Send us a textIn this conversation, Jason Lippert, CEO of Lippert Components, discusses the importance of differentiation in business through a strong company culture. He shares the challenges of integrating diverse company cultures during acquisitions and the transformative journey of shifting from a win-at-all-costs mentality to a values-driven approach. He also discusses the impact of community service and employee engagement on company success, illustrating how a focus on personal growth and leadership development can lead to significant organizational improvements. Takeaways Culture is a competitive advantage in business. There’s value in shifting from a culture of just winning to one that puts values first. Culture can be your differentiation from the competition. People want consistency in values and leadership. About Jason Lippert: Jason Lippert is Chief Executive Officer of the Lippert Components. Having held various titles within the company, he is a third-generation leader of the company. Throughout his career, he has skillfully diversified Lippert’s brand portfolio while also playing a pivotal role in shaping the company's structure and fostering a positive corporate culture. Emphasizing team play with trust and community improvement remain central to his approach. Join the Conversation: We hope you enjoy this episode with Jason Lippert. Be sure to listen, subscribe, and leave a review to let us know your thoughts! Where to find more: https://corporate.lippert.com/about/our-leadership

Nov 12, 2024 • 35min
A Journey of Sweet Success with Chuck Surack
Send us a textChuck Surack, founder of Sweetwater, shares his journey from being a musician to building the largest music equipment retail company worldwide. He emphasizes the importance of trust and building relationships with customers, which has been a key factor in Sweetwater's success. Chuck also discusses the challenges he faced during the recession and the COVID-19 pandemic, and how he rallied his team to overcome them. He highlights the importance of always moving forward and never settling for mediocrity. Additionally, Chuck talks about his philanthropic work and his passion for music. Takeaways Building trust and strong relationships with customers is crucial for business success. During challenging times, it is important for leaders to rally their teams and focus on the basics. Never settle for mediocrity and always strive for improvement. Philanthropy and giving back to the community can be a fulfilling and impactful endeavor. Passion and a positive mindset are key drivers of success. About Chuck Surack: With a passion for providing excellent service, Chuck founded Sweetwater in 1979, which started as a mobile recording studio out of the back of a Volkswagen bus and became the nation’s largest online music instrument retailer. He and his wife, Lisa continue to give back to the Northeast Indiana community through the Sweet Family of Companies and the Surack Family Foundation. Where to Find More: https://surackenterprises.com/ Join the Conversation: We hope you enjoy this episode with Chuck Surack. Be sure to listen, subscribe, and leave a review to let us know your thoughts!

Oct 23, 2024 • 31min
This is Strategy with Seth Godin
Send us a textIn this conversation, Barry LaBov interviews Seth Godin about his new book, 'This Is Strategy.' They discuss the importance of differentiation, the role of empathy and systems in strategy, and the power of games. Seth emphasizes the need for strategy to be focused on making a difference over time and serving a specific audience. He also shares insights on his writing process and the importance of integrity. The conversation concludes with Seth's major takeaways from the book and his belief in the value of every day. Takeaways Differentiation is crucial in strategy to avoid being commoditized and to stand out from the competition. Strategy should be focused on making a difference over time and serving a specific audience. Empathy and humility are essential in understanding and connecting with others in strategy. Systems play a significant role in strategy, and understanding their dynamics can help navigate and leverage them. Saying 'no' to opportunities that don't align with your strategy is important for long-term success. The best day is the present day, and finding joy and gratitude in each day is a mindset that can lead to fulfillment. About Seth Godin: Seth Godin is an entrepreneur, best-selling author, and speaker. In addition to launching one of the most popular blogs in the world, he has written 21 best-selling books, including The Dip, Linchpin, Purple Cow, Tribes, and What To Do When It's Your Turn (And It's Always Your Turn). His book, This is Marketing, was an instant bestseller in countries around the world. Seth has been inducted into the Guerrilla Marketing Hall of Fame, Direct Marketing Hall of Fame, and Marketing Hall of Fame. Where to Find More: https://www.sethgodin.com/ Join the Conversation: We hope you enjoy this episode with Seth Godin. Be sure to listen, subscribe, and leave a review to let us know your thoughts!

Oct 14, 2024 • 32min
Reigniting Brands and Rallying Teams with Johan de Nysschen
Send us a textJohan de Nysschen, an icon in the automotive industry, shares his experiences reigniting premium brands and empowering internal teams and dealer networks . He discusses his experience leading Audi and Cadillac, and the challenges he faced in rallying the brands to stand up for their uniqueness. He emphasizes the importance of brand differentiation and the value of the brand experience. Johan also reflects on his achievements, including the turnaround of Cadillac and the future of electric vehicles.

Oct 1, 2024 • 33min
The Power of Failing Forward with Jacob Brown
Send us a textJacob Brown is a transformational speaker, coach, author, podcaster, and former NFL player. Emphasizing the importance of failing forward, he uses failures as a springboard for success. Jacob believes in the power of leadership and rallying people around a common goal, celebrating their achievements, and giving them a sense of meaning and significance. His message is one of hope, inspiration, and transformation. Key highlights from the conversation: Failure can be a steppingstone to success if you have a fail-forward mentality. Taking accountability for your actions and learning from failures can lead to personal growth. Vulnerability and transparency can inspire and help others who are going through similar struggles. Leaders should rally people around a common goal, celebrate their achievements, and give them a sense of meaning and significance. About Jacob Brown: Jacob Brown's journey from the tough NFL fields to speaking on international stages is nothing short of inspiring. Today, as an experienced entrepreneur, engaging speaker, and recognized writer, he shows the true power of resilience. Beyond his sports achievements, Jacob co-founded Varlo, a leading brand in cycling and triathlon apparel. Where to find more: https://failforwardbrown.com/ Links and Resources: https://www.instagram.com/officialjakebrown/?hl=en https://www.youtube.com/@JacobBrownFailForward https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacobaaronbrown/ https://www.facebook.com/FailForwardBrown/ https://failforwardbrown.com/fail-forward/

Sep 16, 2024 • 32min
Inspiring the Premium Experience with Don Hunter
Send us a textDon Hunter, CEO of Haig Point Club and a leader in the private golf club industry, shares his journey and experiences in excelling in a demanding industry. He discusses the importance of differentiation and the challenges he faced in turning around struggling clubs. Don highlights the importance of humanizing the customer experience and creating an emotional connection with staff. His personal differentiation as an entrepreneurial leader initiative and drives decision-making. Key highlights from the conversation: Differentiation is crucial in the private golf club industry to stand out and attract members. Change management is necessary in struggling clubs to turn them around and achieve growth. Creating an emotional connection with staff and humanizing the customer experience is key to success. Being an entrepreneurial leader involves taking initiative and driving decision-making. About Don Hunter: Don Hunter is the CEO of Haig Point Club and has over three decades in the club management/service industry. He has realized remarkable success through change and innovation at numerous high-profile facilities. Don has hosted successful and memorable large-scale golf competitions at clubs around the country. He holds a CCM Designation from the Club Managers Association of America. Where to find more: https://haigpoint.com/ Links and Resources: https://www.linkedin.com/in/don-hunter-ccm-b2581a25/ https://haigpoint.com/ Join the Conversation: We hope you enjoy this episode with Don Hunter. Be sure to listen, subscribe, and leave a review to let us know your thoughts!