
Lattice Training Podcast
We. Train. Climbers. At Lattice, we aim to develop and grow our understanding of effective training for climbing, a sport that is still very much in its infancy. We hope to educate and share psych about our amazing sport! Ultimately enabling everyone to excel in climbing and enjoy the sport throughout all of life's stages.
Latest episodes

Mar 5, 2022 • 56min
Pro Climber Staša Gejo: Weight Control, Finger Strength & Indoors vs Outdoor
This episode's guest is professional climber and competition athlete Staša Gejo, who's track record is rarely matched. She has stood in every single position - gold, silver and bronze - across a variety of competitions from World Games, World Champs, European Champs and World Cups, climbed V13 and puts out consistent content on her social channels and YouTube channel which shares her thoughts and journey in climbing. Her top level track record extends way back from 2015 where as a junior competitor she won the World Junior Champs in bouldering and combined, so there is a big depth of experience and expertise here. What’s so cool about Staša is that not only is she operating at the top end, she's also really good at communicating her thoughts about her journey in the sport. The ups and downs and also what works well when it comes to performance - especially around some recent dialogue on the topic of weight.We talked about:Her experiences with weight control and early journey as a comp athlete.The repercussions of a calorie controlled diet at 1200/day. How does her healthy weight management look these days.What does her indoor vs outdoor training and performance habit look like.Her thoughts on mixing forms and disciplines for performance and training. What does her specific finger strength work look like.How much strength work she finds optimal per week. The Lattice jingle is brought to you by Devin Dabney, music producer of the outdoor industry who also hosts the American Climbing Project.The Lattice jingle is brought to you by Devin Dabney, music producer of the outdoor industry who also hosts the American Climbing Project.

Feb 26, 2022 • 50min
Strength Training From A World Pull Up Champion: Kejt Najman
On today's show we have Kejt Najman, who sits in the 'sweet spot' of training knowledge as she's both a coach and internationally acclaimed athlete. She was World Weighted Pull Up Champion in 2019 & 2022, Polish Champion four years running, has bouldered 7C and sport climbed 7c (before concentrating on her competitions in recent years) and also works as a strength and conditioning coach for climbers. At Lattice we greatly value those who have a blend of sports science and practical knowledge - it's the area where 'science' meets 'art' and 'subjectivity' in training. In another knowledge packed episode Tom explores Kejt's methods and experiences in upper body strength training, how she works on herself as an athlete and also her approach to her own clients. 1. Kejt's original journey as an athlete - couldn't do a single pull up initially! 2. How much she trained in the earlier years and what methods she used.3. Her approach to 'push' vs 'pull' gym work.4. Low specificity vs high specificity training. 5. Kejt's experiences as an elite plant-based athlete. 6. Her next steps and thoughts on training as a 40 year old athlete. The Lattice jingle is brought to you by Devin Dabney, music producer of the outdoor industry who also hosts the American Climbing Project.The Lattice jingle is brought to you by Devin Dabney, music producer of the outdoor industry who also hosts the American Climbing Project.

Feb 23, 2022 • 25min
10 Things That Matter More Than You Think: Part 2
Part 2 of '10 Things That Matter More Than You Think'Climbing performance is fairly complex because there's so many moving parts to the equation and many of the skills take years, if not decades, to perfect. Fortunately, Tom Randall is on the podcast in this episode to give you another 'solo' session on what things really make a difference in climbing your best. In this second part, he dives into a variety of factors that probably don't get enough discussion, but make a massive difference to your climbing. Get over half of these items ticked off and perfected, and you'll probably see 1-2 grades of climbing improvement at your projecting level in a single season. Hip positionLadders and dogging tacticsOne Last GoPower trainingSupportive partnersHIPS: How close, how far left or right and how much you throw them. Get strong in the entire ROMTACTICS: Ladders, ab ropes and spotter shoulders for feeling holds, starting higher up, dogging with clip stick, clipping in tight, get a power pulls and many more...ONE LAST GO: Sticking around, trying even when you’ve given up, learning your mind-body connection when you’re at your limit, trying to be the last person to have a go every session. POWER TRAINING: Execution of strength/force with speed, efficient movement that’s sport specific, power training in 'peak' cycles, trying projects that you can’t do staticallySUPPORTIVE PARTNERS: The 'fun' factor, verbal and video feedback, accountability, absorbing your partner's practices. The Lattice jingle is brought to you by Devin Dabney, music producer of the outdoor industry who also hosts the American Climbing Project.The Lattice jingle is brought to you by Devin Dabney, music producer of the outdoor industry who also hosts the American Climbing Project.

Feb 19, 2022 • 59min
The World's Strongest Grip? Arm Lifting World Champion, Tanner Merkle
In the words of one of Grip Sport's legends, Eric Roussin, the relative newcomer of Tanner Merkle has seriously ruffled some feathers in the Arm Lifting World. Three years running International King Kong Champion and outright holder of the Captains of Crush Silver Bullet Record, his incredible grip strength showed immediately. Unusually for an elite arm lifter, he was previously a top level US competition climber (2nd at US Boulder Nationals). Tanner transitioned away from high climbing to really explore his gift and passion for grip strength, which clearly set him apart in both climbing and grip sports. Tom sits down with Tanner to explore his early days in climbing, how he transitioned his training through the two sports and where he feels there's transfer and knowledge to be applied across both of the disciplines. This episode is the first a number of interviews we're doing with world famous grip strength athletes, diving into the methods, knowledge and strategies they've evolved over their own journeys to the top. We talk (amongst other things) about:What exactly are Grip Sports and Arm Lifting.What is different about the tools used in this sport compared to climbing?How Tanner transitioned from climbing to Grip Sports. How to train for Arm Lifting vs pulling or hanging in climbing.His CoC Silver Bullet record. How he trained for specific records.His thoughts on Cross TrainingHow he tackles training "the entire kinetic chain" in Arm LiftingIssues around weight, mass and how it relates to Grip Sports vs Climbing. The beat is brought to you by Devin Dabney, music producer of the outdoor industry who also hosts the American Climbing Project.The Lattice jingle is brought to you by Devin Dabney, music producer of the outdoor industry who also hosts the American Climbing Project.

Feb 16, 2022 • 17min
10 Things That Matter More Than You Think: Part 1
Climbing performance is fairly complex because there's so many moving parts to the equation and many of the skills take years, if not decades, to perfect. Fortunately, Tom Randall is on the podcast in this episode to give you another 'solo' session on what things really make a difference in climbing your best. In this 2 parter, he dives into a variety of factors that probably don't get enough discussion, but make a massive difference to your climbing. Get over half of these items ticked off and perfected, and you'll probably see 1-2 grades of climbing improvement at your projecting level in a single season. Obviously, if you're already at a Dave Graham level of obsession and strategy, then this can act as a list to give yourself a big pat on the back as you'll find that he and all the rest of the pros are seriously paying attention to these factors. They are not to be taken lightly! Shoe choiceSkin qualityHumidity and wind speedFULL warm upVisualisationSHOES: Heels, toes, downturn, rubber, tightness, stiffnessSKIN: How dry, how thick, cuticle pain, smoothnessHUMIDITY & WIND: Friction and grip effect, humidity limits, glassy skin, cold vs wind. FULL WARM UP: Fingers, core (esp posterior chain), flexibility, power, knowing the demands on your goalVISUALISATION: Timescales and frequency of visualisation, how long can you sustain a visualised sequence, internal vs external, hyper-detail The Lattice jingle is brought to you by Devin Dabney, music producer of the outdoor industry who also hosts the American Climbing Project.The Lattice jingle is brought to you by Devin Dabney, music producer of the outdoor industry who also hosts the American Climbing Project.

Feb 12, 2022 • 1h 3min
The History Of Climbing Training: Interview With Peter Beal
In this episode we take a dive into the history of climbing training and performance with Peter Beal. With over five decades of climbing and training experience under his belt, we thought there was no better person to talk about what has occurred in the training side of the sport since the 70s and how this has impacted performance at the top end. Peter has been climbing hard since 1977, with a specific focus on bouldering which is unusual given the decade in which he started - it was hardly recognised as its own 'thing' at the time! With ascents up to V12, he is also a contributor across publications like Rock & Ice, UKC, The Alpinist and also the author of the book - Bouldering: Movement, Tactics and Problem Solving.Peter is a training and performance focused guy, having trained methodically for going on 40 yrs and also operates as a climbing coach for local climbers in Colorado operating right up to the elite end of the scale for just over 20yrs. For all the above mentioned history and background, I thought this would be the perfect person to have on the show to talk about how climbing and performance has changed over the last 5 decades. Peter Beal InstagramPeter Beal's local (amazing!) gym: 1970sJim Holloway - front levers and gymnastic strength training feats. Ascents of V12-13! Pete Livesey and training at Leeds wall, raising the standard in leading from E2-E6Tony Yaniro - FA of Grand Illusion 8a/+ in 19791980sEnter John Bachar! 2 arm pull ups at +63kg and 1 arm pull up +5.5kgMoffatt, Bachar etc, all possibly started with the first bit of fingerboard training1984 C’était Demain V11 – Fontainebleau, by Godoffe 1988 - The campus board & Wolfgang Güllich 1990s1990 Hubble - 8c+ but maybe the world’s first 9a?Action Directe 9a 1991The Sheffield Schoolroom - built in 1993 by Gavin Ellis, Ben Tye and Andy CoishReplicas, system board climbing, systematic endurance training, campus boards, and early fingerboarding all find their ground.1996 - Open Air by Huber as the first 9a+ (upgraded later from 9a)2000s2000-2002 for long and shorter V15s (Hollow Mountain Cave and Monkey Wedding)2008 - 9b Jumbo LoveIndoor Walls really start to have an international impact en masse. 2010s2012-2013 3 x 9b+ all by Adam Ondra!! Early 2010-2015 massive explosion in indoor bouldering2016 - Burden of Dreams V17 – by Nalle Hukkataival 2017 - Silence 9c by OndraThe Moonboard, Kilterboard and Tension Board go big. The Lattice jingle is brought to you by Devin Dabney, music producer of the outdoor industry who also hosts the American Climbing Project.

Feb 9, 2022 • 50min
Climbing Dads: Tom Randall & Jon Procter Discuss Their Experiences and Strategies
Last year, we had a parenting-focused interview on the show with Caro Ciavaldini joining Mina (who's also recently a new mum!) for a discussion about climbing and training post pregnancy. We had some great feedback from you guys on the content, which also included a request to do a "dad" version of the interview....So here it is folks. You asked and we will always try to deliver! Two Lattice dads - Tom Randall and coach Jon Procter sit down to chat about their own experiences since having children. Never ones to sugar coat, Tom and Jon share their ups and downs and some of the strategies they've used to maintain a path of progress and performance in climbing. Key topics discussed:Tom and Jon's parental set up.The early days of changing lifestyle and how this affected training and performance.Methods for managing time and energy with less sleep or less "free" time in the week. Split sessions for training and climbing.Training Mesocycle lengths and formatHome training set ups. Differences in endurance vs strength training as a parent. You can find Mina and Caro's interview here if you're interested in that one too! The Lattice jingle is brought to you by Devin Dabney, music producer of the outdoor industry who also hosts the American Climbing Project.

Feb 5, 2022 • 43min
The Secrets Of Becoming A Flexible Climber
In this podcast Maddy sits down with coach Josh, who is our in-house flexibility specialist. Josh has invested his time in both understanding the science of flexibility but also putting it into practice. His development of our flexibility plans has greatly impacted the work we do with clients and as a bonus point, has just about resulted in him reaching his goal of side splits!How to take a practical approach to flexibility trainingUnderstanding your biomechanics to get the stretches right for your levelThe importance of strength through ranges of motion.His approach to the “how” of flexibility training. This is so important for pushing the training (yes, flexibility training should feel challenging!), keeping motivated and monitoring progress. Topics discussed:1) Why flexibility is important and how it plays into performance in climbing 2) What is the process you go through when it comes to improving flexibility? 3) The concept of leverage and how we can use gravity to provide the right challenge level.4) How muscles and joints don't work in isolation, and therefore how we can best facilitate our stretching in certain positions.5) Length before strength. Session ordering for improving flexibility and strength through a large range of movement.6) As with many exercises the "how" is important when we train flexibility. Josh talks about setting tasks in flexibility training.7) ‘Feeling’ before ‘form.’ What should the main focus be?The Lattice jingle is brought to you by Devin Dabney, music producer of the outdoor industry who also hosts the American Climbing Project.

Feb 2, 2022 • 48min
The Psychology of Mental Toughness: Interview with Allegra Maguire
Whilst we often concentrate specifically on the physical aspects of training and performance, we also have a real passion for psychology and how it relates to climbing. In this episode, I we have a psychology specialist - PhD student and researcher Allegra Maguire, who specialises in applied decision making.Allegra went from 6a to 7a+ in a single year in climbing and has a practical interest in applying her psychology expertise into the climbing arena itself. In this podcast Tom and Allegra discuss the topic of “mental toughness” and how it applies to sport training and performance. 1. What is mental toughness.2. How does this differ from resilience?3. The 4 Cs model of mental toughness. 4. Mental toughness as a predictor of performance5. The state/trait debate, including definitions6. Interventions and practical examplesEnvironmental influencesChallenge managementSocial supportReflection trainingAllegra's Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCh_uKaHT6EWvyZG55rhYK3QInstagram: @climbin.psychology @allegra_maguire Mindfulness: https://www.headspace.com/MT test: https://mentaltraininginc.com/services/mental-toughness-testThe Lattice jingle is brought to you by Devin Dabney, music producer of the outdoor industry who also hosts the American Climbing Project.

Jan 29, 2022 • 19min
Common Mistakes For Endurance Training: Part 2 With Tom Randall
Part 2 of the "Endurance Mistakes" of Climbing Training! Endurance training is a foundational element of performance preparation or training for almost every athlete, no matter what their discipline. Boulderers, sport climbers and trad climbers should all be completing phases of endurance training during their year. What is also common across these disciplines, is a consistent set of mistakes that climbers typically make when completing this type of training. In part two of this podcast, Tom Randall talks about the "Style" aspect of endurance work which encompasses both grip types and terrain angle. Both of these factors in your endurance training will affect the outcomes in technical, psychological and physical performance or adaptation. Main grip types you want to consider:Micro edges (less than 10mm)Mid-sized edge (20-30mm)Pinches Slopers, big open holdsPocketsMain terrain angles to train on:SlabVerticalSteep up to 30 degreesSteep 30-60 degreesRoofTechnical outcomes:1. Lack of skill or technique in using particular grip types. Finger, hand and wrist positioning as well as body position especially with things like slopers etc. 2. Lack of movement efficiency appropriate to the terrain angle. Movement on a slab is not the same as a 45 degree wall! 3. Low skill set in hold-specific or angle-specific rests. 4. Under developed technique in pacing for particular terrain angles. Psychological outcomes:1. Not enough familiarity or exposure to specific holds or angles. Impacts confidence, anxiety levels and state management. 2. Likelihood of lower onsight ability that fitness or technical ability should dictate. 3. Problem solving skills for terrain type underdeveloped. Will affect onsight and redpoint grade. Physical:1. Terrain-specific mobility/flexibility and also finger-hand-wrist-forearm ROM appropriate to grip type. 2. Focusing volume of training on the wrong terrain type will under-develop the muscle groups specific (and limiting) to the terrain you do want to perform on. The Lattice jingle is brought to you by Devin Dabney, music producer of the outdoor industry who also hosts the American Climbing Project.